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  • cheerfuldom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 7413

    #31
    I agree with nanny. I don't have even close to the number of experience in childcare as she does but in my short 4 years, anytime you say no to a parent, they are not going to take it well. Doesn't matter how you say it, when you say it, what tone you use or how you cushion it. When you have to give a clear no, they are going to balk at least a little because 9 times out of 10, the no means that they are going to have to adjust and possibly do more on their end for their child. It is a rare parent that can calmly see the big picture of a rule like a breakfast time limit. People are selfish by nature (not just parents but everyone) and it is easiest to see things in our own small limited way than to take the mature view of carefully considering the entire scenario before reacting. Some parents will hear a no and then eventually understand the why and go along with the new rule but some dont even do that and continually fight each rule.

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    • youretooloud
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1955

      #32
      I agree that the school shouldn't suddenly change their policy and they should give warning first... then enforce it after a warning. (maybe they do a newsletter?) They could post the new policy on the door for the week before enforcing it.

      But, if he's not even getting to school until after 9:00, he's had plenty of time to eat at home. A busy mom might not have time to sit with him, but you can put breakfast on the table, or the coffee table and let him veg in front of the tv while you get ready.

      Also, a granola bar isn't really breakfast. It's not even very filling. So, if you really don't want to make a breakfast, you might be just as well off letting him wait until snack time at school. Most schools serve snack around 9:30 or 10:00. So, he would be eating shortly after drop-off anyway. I have a few kids that don't get a breakfast at home, so at snack time, I serve them a little more snack. The parents don't announce it every morning, but they've let me know at one time that the child is probably always going to be hungry early.

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      • Unregistered

        #33
        One of my biggest complaints!

        I completely agree parents should feed their children at home before they come. You wake them up earlier to allow for the time, and make sure they have a balanced meal. I don't serve breakfast, stopped that many years ago and state the above in my policy. If the parent can come perfectly groomed (hair, makeup, clothes ect.) they have more than ample time to feed their child. And the kids that walk through the door with a pop tart, ect. is not being taught the value of sitting down for their meals.

        How many of you have had the parents that drop them off half asleep, crabby and hungry?
        However, that same parent has probably eaten, had coffee and again perfectly groomed. Poor parenting imo.

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        • renodeb
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 837

          #34
          As a provider I think breakfast until 9 is reasonable. I cant believe that they would change the rules after that long. I have had kids arrive at 10 and after asking for breakfast which i think is late. Did you ask why the change after so long. For me its not to make my life easier, its to keep some kind of routine every day.
          Im sorry, it sounds like such a silly thing but often parents and providers have diffrent views on things like this!

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          • Rachel
            Daycare.com Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 605

            #35
            My breakfast time must be between 8 & 9, but in that time frame I do take the parents into account. If I have 3 parents telling me they won't get there before 8:30, I"m not going to make breakfast at 8. Right now I have 2 kids, and I am doing breakfast at 8:30. We'll see how it works when I open next week.

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            • mom2many
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 1278

              #36
              Originally posted by Crystal
              For a center I can see the need of limiting breakfast times. For me, I serve breakfast from 7 a.m. -8:30, but would NEVER not give a child breakfast due to the parent neglecting to feed them before arrival if I am not serving breakfast still, I don't care if it's 8:35 or 9:30........IMO making a child go hungry is NOT okay, and the child doesn't have the choice of telling the parent they better feed them before school.

              My suggestion to the OP is, since the center is enforcing these new rules, get up 10 minutes early so that you have time to feed your child before preschool.
              I so agree with this! I'm regulated by the food program, but that never keeps me from providing a breakfast to a hungry dck and it does not matter if meal time is over, I will make sure that the child is fed! It is not the child's fault and I will always make sure their welfare comes first.

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              • theconsumer78

                #37
                YOUR Customer

                Originally posted by CoachingForQualityImprovement
                That woulld make me livid.....I would tell her the same thing, and I would also tell her I would be keeping track of the times she failed to feed her child, as it is neglect and I am a mandated reporter.
                Showing up after 8 am without feeding breakfast to a child when we as parents pay A LOT of money for YOU to do so is hardly neglect.

                I understand the problems that feeding a kids "after" the normal meal times might cause regarding the other children in the class but putting out snotty day care workers like yourself isn't something that would ever cross my mind. Guess why????

                SUPPLY and DEMAND. Customer service. That's right - I pay for a SERVICE and that service is for the daycare that I employ to feed my child x number of times per day. There is no LATE for breakfast because I already PAID for that breakfast along with YOUR paycheck and just like any other service I can go down the street and find someone who gives a S*** about giving me the value that I expect for my money when taking care of my child.

                YOU don't get to be livid because you work for me and my child. I wish that I knew who you were and where you worked so that I could make sure that everyone that I know blacklisted your daycare because I would never allow my child to be taken care of by such a pretentious, sniveling, B**** as yourself. HOW DARE you threaten to report a parent for neglect that only expects that you perform the services that you are paid to do. If the child was brought to daycare at noon without breakfast then ok but 9 am???? That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Many children don't wake up until 8:30 and then straight to daycare for breakfast because GUESS WHAT - IT'S YOUR JOB!!!! Get off of your high horse. I sincerely hope that your attitude gets you fired ASAP.

                Good Day

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                • Thriftylady
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 5884

                  #38
                  Originally posted by theconsumer78
                  Showing up after 8 am without feeding breakfast to a child when we as parents pay A LOT of money for YOU to do so is hardly neglect.

                  I understand the problems that feeding a kids "after" the normal meal times might cause regarding the other children in the class but putting out snotty day care workers like yourself isn't something that would ever cross my mind. Guess why????

                  SUPPLY and DEMAND. Customer service. That's right - I pay for a SERVICE and that service is for the daycare that I employ to feed my child x number of times per day. There is no LATE for breakfast because I already PAID for that breakfast along with YOUR paycheck and just like any other service I can go down the street and find someone who gives a S*** about giving me the value that I expect for my money when taking care of my child.

                  YOU don't get to be livid because you work for me and my child. I wish that I knew who you were and where you worked so that I could make sure that everyone that I know blacklisted your daycare because I would never allow my child to be taken care of by such a pretentious, sniveling, B**** as yourself. HOW DARE you threaten to report a parent for neglect that only expects that you perform the services that you are paid to do. If the child was brought to daycare at noon without breakfast then ok but 9 am???? That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Many children don't wake up until 8:30 and then straight to daycare for breakfast because GUESS WHAT - IT'S YOUR JOB!!!! Get off of your high horse. I sincerely hope that your attitude gets you fired ASAP.

                  Good Day
                  But I DON'T work for you. And I WON'T work for you. I am not your slave. I run a business that is to see to the good of all the children in my care. I have training and regulations to follow and you don't set those regulations. It is not MY JOB to be a PARENT TO YOUR CHILD. It is your job as the parent to be a parent. I am a child care provider/teacher. Meal times here are set. You get it in the handbook, and you sign a contract agreeing to those times. If you don't agree, don't sign but you can't come here for childcare. YOUR child does not trump the other children, they will all be treated the same.

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                  • Unregistered

                    #39
                    Originally posted by theconsumer78
                    Showing up after 8 am without feeding breakfast to a child when we as parents pay A LOT of money for YOU to do so is hardly neglect.

                    I understand the problems that feeding a kids "after" the normal meal times might cause regarding the other children in the class but putting out snotty day care workers like yourself isn't something that would ever cross my mind. Guess why????

                    SUPPLY and DEMAND. Customer service. That's right - I pay for a SERVICE and that service is for the daycare that I employ to feed my child x number of times per day. There is no LATE for breakfast because I already PAID for that breakfast along with YOUR paycheck and just like any other service I can go down the street and find someone who gives a S*** about giving me the value that I expect for my money when taking care of my child.

                    YOU don't get to be livid because you work for me and my child. I wish that I knew who you were and where you worked so that I could make sure that everyone that I know blacklisted your daycare because I would never allow my child to be taken care of by such a pretentious, sniveling, B**** as yourself. HOW DARE you threaten to report a parent for neglect that only expects that you perform the services that you are paid to do. If the child was brought to daycare at noon without breakfast then ok but 9 am???? That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Many children don't wake up until 8:30 and then straight to daycare for breakfast because GUESS WHAT - IT'S YOUR JOB!!!! Get off of your high horse. I sincerely hope that your attitude gets you fired ASAP.

                    Good Day

                    Oh I so needed to read that. I really needed a good deep belly laugh

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                    • Cat Herder
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 13744

                      #40
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                      • NightOwl
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 2722

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                        • rosieteddy
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 1272

                          #42
                          When I first started 30 yrs ago I served breakfast.I got my own 4 children up ready for school decent breakfast together and opened at 7;30.I did offer breakfast those first years,Then parents started giving the kids bars and juice on the way here,They waisted the breakfast were not hungry enough.So the next years contract I told all parents children including infants neeed to arrive at day care fed.I now offer Breakfast-snack at 9:30 am.If the child arrives after not eating well at home you can bet they are hungry at snack time. As for the parent who claimed it was our job to fee the children their breakfast on demand ,well we do not have custody of our daycare children. We offer childcare and work hard to make a nice day for other peoples children. I do think the original poster has reason to be annoyed .She should have been given notice of the change in schedule,But really if children are eating until 9:30 when is snack and lunch? I think it would throw the whole day off,

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                          • KidGrind
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 1099

                            #43
                            Originally posted by theconsumer78
                            Showing up after 8 am without feeding breakfast to a child when we as parents pay A LOT of money for YOU to do so is hardly neglect.

                            I understand the problems that feeding a kids "after" the normal meal times might cause regarding the other children in the class but putting out snotty day care workers like yourself isn't something that would ever cross my mind. Guess why????

                            SUPPLY and DEMAND. Customer service. That's right - I pay for a SERVICE and that service is for the daycare that I employ to feed my child x number of times per day. There is no LATE for breakfast because I already PAID for that breakfast along with YOUR paycheck and just like any other service I can go down the street and find someone who gives a S*** about giving me the value that I expect for my money when taking care of my child.

                            YOU don't get to be livid because you work for me and my child. I wish that I knew who you were and where you worked so that I could make sure that everyone that I know blacklisted your daycare because I would never allow my child to be taken care of by such a pretentious, sniveling, B**** as yourself. HOW DARE you threaten to report a parent for neglect that only expects that you perform the services that you are paid to do. If the child was brought to daycare at noon without breakfast then ok but 9 am???? That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Many children don't wake up until 8:30 and then straight to daycare for breakfast because GUESS WHAT - IT'S YOUR JOB!!!! Get off of your high horse. I sincerely hope that your attitude gets you fired ASAP.

                            Good Day
                            I don’t have one client who pays be to feed their children breakfast. I have clients who are aware I offer breakfast at 8:00 AM. If they are running late and Johnny arrives at 8:15 AM, it is their responsibility to feed their children on their watch.

                            I am not a nanny and I have a group of children to observe, guide and keep safe 10 hours per day. The service I offer isn’t to accommodate various parents' sporadic arrival times and feed 6 different breakfast.

                            It is not my job to feed your child at 9:00 AM. The service I offer is 8:00 AM. A parent’s poor time management doesn’t shift my routine for the day nor does it interfere with my other clients’ children.

                            You have a good day too.

                            And I hope the poster was a troll.

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                            • SignMeUp
                              Family ChildCare Provider
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 1325

                              #44
                              Originally posted by theconsumer78
                              Showing up after 8 am without feeding breakfast to a child when we as parents pay A LOT of money for YOU to do so is hardly neglect.

                              I understand the problems that feeding a kids "after" the normal meal times might cause regarding the other children in the class but putting out snotty day care workers like yourself isn't something that would ever cross my mind. Guess why????

                              SUPPLY and DEMAND. Customer service. That's right - I pay for a SERVICE and that service is for the daycare that I employ to feed my child x number of times per day. There is no LATE for breakfast because I already PAID for that breakfast along with YOUR paycheck and just like any other service I can go down the street and find someone who gives a S*** about giving me the value that I expect for my money when taking care of my child.

                              YOU don't get to be livid because you work for me and my child. I wish that I knew who you were and where you worked so that I could make sure that everyone that I know blacklisted your daycare because I would never allow my child to be taken care of by such a pretentious, sniveling, B**** as yourself. HOW DARE you threaten to report a parent for neglect that only expects that you perform the services that you are paid to do. If the child was brought to daycare at noon without breakfast then ok but 9 am???? That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Many children don't wake up until 8:30 and then straight to daycare for breakfast because GUESS WHAT - IT'S YOUR JOB!!!! Get off of your high horse. I sincerely hope that your attitude gets you fired ASAP.

                              Good Day
                              I'm kinda hoping I get fired today You know what they say, It's not the kids, it's the parents
                              Too bad my boss is so damn nice

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                              • Crystal
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 4002

                                #45
                                Originally posted by theconsumer78
                                Showing up after 8 am without feeding breakfast to a child when we as parents pay A LOT of money for YOU to do so is hardly neglect.

                                I understand the problems that feeding a kids "after" the normal meal times might cause regarding the other children in the class but putting out snotty day care workers like yourself isn't something that would ever cross my mind. Guess why????

                                SUPPLY and DEMAND. Customer service. That's right - I pay for a SERVICE and that service is for the daycare that I employ to feed my child x number of times per day. There is no LATE for breakfast because I already PAID for that breakfast along with YOUR paycheck and just like any other service I can go down the street and find someone who gives a S*** about giving me the value that I expect for my money when taking care of my child.

                                YOU don't get to be livid because you work for me and my child. I wish that I knew who you were and where you worked so that I could make sure that everyone that I know blacklisted your daycare because I would never allow my child to be taken care of by such a pretentious, sniveling, B**** as yourself. HOW DARE you threaten to report a parent for neglect that only expects that you perform the services that you are paid to do. If the child was brought to daycare at noon without breakfast then ok but 9 am???? That is the most ridiculous thing that I've ever heard. Many children don't wake up until 8:30 and then straight to daycare for breakfast because GUESS WHAT - IT'S YOUR JOB!!!! Get off of your high horse. I sincerely hope that your attitude gets you fired ASAP.

                                Good Day
                                Well, now, that just made my day! LOL!

                                Perhaps you should take a closer look at my posts....I said I WOULD feed the child, regardless of what time he arrived if he had not eaten.

                                You sound very bitter and must have had a negative reaction from a provider who chose not to allow you to bully them. Good luck with that, and I hope you have a BEAUTIFUL day! I certainly am :hug:

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