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  • SilverSabre25
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 7585

    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered
    How about if your kids only go part time and never on Monday. Why would a daycare charge for a Monday. My week at the daycare is Tuesday thru Friday. I don't see why should pay for Mondays over and over again that she is taking off.
    See, if that's truly what your provider is doing then something is wrong. Perhaps you are misunderstanding...are you saying that she charges you EXTRA for the weeks she takes off a monday? Like, you regularly attend (are contracted for) Tuesday through Friday and pay $100/week ($25/day), then on a week she takes off a Monday are you charged $125?

    If that's how she's doing it then that's a really crappy policy IMO.

    But if you regularly attend Tuesday through Friday and she takes Monday off and you're still charged $100 then you're not paying for her day off. If she takes off Friday you would still pay $100, not $75.
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    • Hunni Bee
      False Sense Of Authority
      • Feb 2011
      • 2397

      #62
      Originally posted by SilverSabre25
      See, if that's truly what your provider is doing then something is wrong. Perhaps you are misunderstanding...are you saying that she charges you EXTRA for the weeks she takes off a monday? Like, you regularly attend (are contracted for) Tuesday through Friday and pay $100/week ($25/day), then on a week she takes off a Monday are you charged $125?

      If that's how she's doing it then that's a really crappy policy IMO.

      But if you regularly attend Tuesday through Friday and she takes Monday off and you're still charged $100 then you're not paying for her day off. If she takes off Friday you would still pay $100, not $75.
      The way I read it was that the provider charges for full weeks, but the parent only chooses to send her kids Tuesday through Friday. Her kids are using 5-day slots, but she only wants to pay for four days. That's why she feels she's paying for her provider's "day off".

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      • SilverSabre25
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 7585

        #63
        Originally posted by Hunni Bee
        The way I read it was that the provider charges for full weeks, but the parent only chooses to send her kids Tuesday through Friday. Her kids are using 5-day slots, but she only wants to pay for four days. That's why she feels she's paying for her provider's "day off".
        Well, she said her kids are part-time and her "week" is T-F, but provider frequently takes off Mondays. I was honestly curious what their arrangement was, which is why I asked--even though I don't really expect a response.
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        • shnookums333

          #64
          You can't argue with a signed contract.

          My handbook states I get 2 paid weeks of vacation and 5 paid sick days. BUT I also have an option in my contract that gives the parents the right to pay a small percentage extra each week to cover those times or just pay a regular weekly fee and pay me during those times. I have yet to have a parent take the option of paying a little more so they don't have to worry about paying me during vacation times. But the option is there.

          I've held many positions, including in the corporate world for almost 7 years. I got 5 paid weeks of vacation, national/bank holidays, and 3 weeks of sick leave each year. Let me say this, I have NEVER worked as hard as I do now that I'm in the home daycare world! It's insane the toll that it takes on my body and mind! I need and deserve a break from the chaos of my kids. I love my kids... Soooooooo much! But dang! I even need a break from my own child from time to time! Can I get an amen?

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          • Unregistered

            #65
            What about when the daycare "changes" after having signed a contract. Not to worried personally because I only have 1 child in daycare and only for another 6 months. There are benefits to staying at home that I don't have. I also have benefits that my daycare provider doesn't have such as paid vacation. As for being self employed, what about other service industries that are self employed? Such as dog grooming and hair stylists? They don't charge when your not there.

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            • Unregistered

              #66
              Originally posted by Symphony
              Also think about if you took a weeks vacation and stayed in a hotel with your family. Would you call your landlord/bank and ask to not pay that weeks rent/mortgage since you weren't there and had to pay someone else?
              What a ridiculous argument. A daycare is a business. If a business owner wants to go on vacation and closes, he should take his pay for those weeks out of his profits. Do you pay tuition fees in school even when school closes? No.

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              • Unregistered

                #67
                Originally posted by busymomof2
                Personally I don't see why parents complain about having to pay for days off, vacation or holidays. They received a contract and signed it. Question is...did they read it? If they don't agree with it go some where else.
                Someone should sue daycare providers and force regulation by child care services. Parents having to PAY for the providers VACATION!!!???
                If it were true as some providers here state that I am 'renting space', then when the daycare is on vacation, I should be able to take my child there to play with the toys.
                And No, Unregistered simply means, I have a busy job and don't want to waste my time arguing.

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                • MarinaVanessa
                  Family Childcare Home
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 7211

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered
                  Someone should sue daycare providers and force regulation by child care services. Parents having to PAY for the providers VACATION!!!???
                  If it were true as some providers here state that I am 'renting space', then when the daycare is on vacation, I should be able to take my child there to play with the toys.
                  And No, Unregistered simply means, I have a busy job and don't want to waste my time arguing.
                  If you get a gym membership and pay a monthly fee and they close they don't let you go in when they are closed even even though you paid for a full month.

                  As it was already stated before ... some provider charge for vacation and other's don't (I for one don't charge my families when I close due to vacation but I do however charge if they go on vacation/sickness etc.).

                  I think that your argument to collectively sue and force regulation on child care providers (business owners) is outlandish and juvenile. We have freedom to enterprise as we each see fit without regulation for a reason ... and by we I mean all business owners. It is the responsibility of the consumer to be well informed about the product or service that they are "purchasing" and then deal responsibly with the consequences if they choose to be uninformed in what they are "purchasing".

                  This argument reminds me about the woman who sued Oreo because her son was fat (who was purchasing and allowing the child to eat the Oreos?) and the elderly woman who sued Mc Donald's because she ordered a coffee, spilled it on herself and got burned (who's responsibility was it to properly handle a hot beverage?) ... what ever happened with common sense? You can't honestly believe that it is anyone elses responsibility to make decisions for you without you putting in any effort on your part, I would hate to live in a world like that.

                  In the case of provider's charging for their vacation time: It is the consumer's responsibility to read the contract and policies, understand them, ask questions and then decide whether or not they believe the program is a good fit for their needs or not and to decide whether they agree with the terms or not. If not then they are free to continue their search for child care until they find a program that they agree with ... not everyone charges for provider vacation, all programs run and work differently. If a child care provider changes the policies after a client signs up then the consumer can terminate services (with proper notice as the consumer agreed to) and then find alternative child care that better suits their needs. It's that easy.

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                  • littlemissmuffet
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2194

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    Someone should sue daycare providers and force regulation by child care services. Parents having to PAY for the providers VACATION!!!???
                    If it were true as some providers here state that I am 'renting space', then when the daycare is on vacation, I should be able to take my child there to play with the toys.
                    And No, Unregistered simply means, I have a busy job and don't want to waste my time arguing.
                    If you don't like how daycares operate (who do you think pays for DC provider's vacations at centers?) then stay home and raise your own child by yourself. If you don't value the people who help raise your children (which includes understanding they DESERVE a break from YOUR children now and again without the stress of going broke over it) then you don't value your child. Plain and simple.

                    I'm so sick of loser parents complaining about paying for daycare. Deal with it OR STAY HOME AND DO IT YOURSELF!

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                    • Country Kids
                      Nature Lover
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5051

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered
                      What a ridiculous argument. A daycare is a business. If a business owner wants to go on vacation and closes, he should take his pay for those weeks out of his profits. Do you pay tuition fees in school even when school closes? No.
                      Yes, tuition is still do when schools close. Our school still charges the same amount through Nov. (Thankgiving break) Dec. (Christmas break) and March (spring break). The teachers get the same amount of pay those months as they do the other months. Thats why its called Salary pay.

                      Also, public schools still collect tax dollars even though they are open 9 monts and have about 1 to 1.5 months off even during those 9 months.
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                      • butterfly
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1627

                        #71
                        I do agree with the recent comments, but do you guys realize this thread is 2 years old? Don't let this unregistered poster get you all worked up.

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #72
                          Originally posted by butterfly
                          I do agree with the recent comments, but do you guys realize this thread is 2 years old? Don't let this unregistered poster get you all worked up.
                          The thread may be old but the members are responding to an unregistered poster who made comments yesterday.

                          The topic of paid time off and provider "perks" will always be a relevent topic and one that will never be agreed upon by both sides of the argument.

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                          • MarinaVanessa
                            Family Childcare Home
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 7211

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            The thread may be old but the members are responding to an unregistered poster who made comments yesterday.

                            The topic of paid time off and provider "perks" will always be a relevent topic and one that will never be agreed upon by both sides of the argument.
                            Exactly, and even though I myself don't charge my clients when I close due to illness, vacation, or personal days even then I still believe that this should be a choice that each provider should be able to make for themselves. Child care options and programs are so different that any client should be able to find an option that they are comfortable with.

                            I like to compare daycare shopping to home shopping. What you look for a home to purchase you start off with a list of wants and needs and have an idea of what your budget looks like and as you go visit each house you get a feel of whether your list is realistic for your budget or not. You may find out that you might have to sacrifice some if the "wants" on your list in order to find something that's more realistic to your budget or might even want to go ahead and spend a little more to get that perfect dream home that you fall in love with.

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                            • Unregistered

                              #74
                              Love it

                              You tell them!! We work hard and take BETTER care of their children then any Childcare center would ever do!! It like a private school!! You get what you pay for!!

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                              • Unregistered

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Unregistered
                                can a daycare legally charge you for their vacation when you have to find dayceare somewhere else for that time, plus child care assistance won't cover that extra charge.
                                If you work for a company that provides benefits: Are you legally entitled to receive vacation pay from your employer even though you won't be working on those days?

                                If the answer is yes, then why wouldn't the answer be yes for your provider to do the same? The fact that you may have to pay another provider has nothing to do with the fact she can legally receive a paid vacation if it is in her contract and you signed said contract.

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