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**Unregistered** · 08-11-2010, 07:39 AM

Daycare

I am a provider and I am also a mom with three children ages 16 to 12 years old. I have been a provider for 12 years. Before that I was a social worker and I counseled teens with broken homes. It is embarrassing to hear parents complaining about how much they have to pay for childcare. Is it too much of a price to pay to have someone prepare and educate your child, attend to your child every needs in your absence? If that so, have you considered to work in the facility, or even volunteer to have your price reduce? What I found out from my experiences of suggesting so, many parents don't want to do the hardwork, they prefer to drop their children at the center, even on their day off. They considered it to be a "Me time". Providers job are hard; we are dealing with children and parents from different environment and spectrum. Also we have to employ people to help us do the job and the hours are so long. All we are asking, is that parent are considerate and respect us. Every facility hass rules and policies. If the rules don't work for you, it's fine, go somewhere else where the rules work for you. Do not come in this forum and trash other facilities. Help us raise our future leaders and make the world a better place for them.

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**Michael** · 08-11-2010, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Chickenhauler

Sounds like you've enrolled your child in Himmler and Goebels and Goering child care center.

Uniforms? For what? They're TWO, it's not like they're having fashion wars.....at that age, we had all we could do to get our son to wear clothes! Thankfully he outgrew his hippy phase, and now is in his "cutoff shorts and that's it phase" for the summer.

haha funny

**jen** · 08-11-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by Chickenhauler

If he isn't getting his shots ( I think I recall you saying this in the past), the public school system is the best thing for him-they won't allow him in the front door without immunizations and proof of them, which requires a doctor visit.

Sure they will...all he has to do is sign a form stating it is against thier beliefs.

**QualiTcare** · 08-11-2010, 07:37 PM

i don't think the uniform thing is SO insane...

it's probably in place because so many parents send their kids to daycare in overalls and snap up pants when they're potty training - or send them in shorts and a t shirt when it's 40 degrees outside.

i'm all for uniforms in school because of social reasons. my daughter's school doesn't have uniforms and i'm pretty much obsessed with her wardrobe. i iron her clothes - make sure her hairbows and nails/shoes match. as much as i hate to admit it, looks do matter - not only to the other kids, but to the teachers as well. it can be denied, but it makes a difference - period. i'd love it if i didn't have to iron and take off polish and buy new shoes and make hairbows. one outfit - every day - i'd love it.

sounds like a pretty high class daycare though to have uniforms AND book fees, supplies, etc.

i hate to ask, but i might as well - do the teachers at the daycare have early childhood degrees? they could have extra fees to cover the higher salaries - that's the ONLY reason i could think of. if that's not the case - i see no reason for the extra expense.

**mac60** · 08-12-2010, 03:22 AM

Why do some people always have to bring up "EDUCATION". Experience TRUMPS education everyday/everytime. Really, what is more important, a piece of paper or years of experience on the job.

Qualiticare....Just wondering.....how many children do you care for and how long have you been a provider.

**QualiTcare** · 08-12-2010, 04:56 AM

i knew that would get a select few's juices flowing.

what other LOGICAL expense can you think of for this daycare charging for all these extras?

i've NEVER heard of a daycare charging for book or UNIFORMS on top of tuition. as i ALREADY said - the only expensive thing i can think of that this place might have that other centers DONT have is TEACHERS with DEGREES. seems to me as if they're running it like a school!

HEAVEN FORBID me think such a thing is possible! you do know that teachers gets paid more, right - or am i allowed to say that?

**mac60** · 08-12-2010, 05:52 AM

It really is no different than a school system charging book fees, sports fees, making the students wear uniforms, making them buy school supplies, etc. My kids went to a center for 4 years, and I always had to buy the basics in supplies, crayons, kleenex, markers, glue, etc, they gave us a list, on top of that I paid a registration fee each year, fieldtrip fees, and my weekly rate.

It is odd for a daycare to expect uniforms. Probably a higher end neighborhood where they "think" there services are worth more.

And really, are comments like "i knew that would get a select few's juices flowing." really necessary.

**jen** · 08-12-2010, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by mac60

And really, are comments like "i knew that would get a select few's juices flowing." really necessary.

Only if one is trying to stir the pot. Not very attractive behavior for a Mod.

**Aya477** · 08-12-2010, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by mac60

It really is no different than a school system charging book fees, sports fees, making the students wear uniforms, making them buy school supplies, etc. My kids went to a center for 4 years, and I always had to buy the basics in supplies, crayons, kleenex, markers, glue, etc, they gave us a list, on top of that I paid a registration fee each year, fieldtrip fees, and my weekly rate.

It is odd for a daycare to expect uniforms. Probably a higher end neighborhood where they "think" there services are worth more.

Just to chime in, it is true in my area that someone with a degree is paid more. The more degreed staff a center has would cost them more in salary expenses consequently increasing tuition rates. In the state I live in, a person that has a degree over someone who doesn't is at an extreme advantage because that boosts the center's staff education rating which can boost the center's star rating. Also in NC, a person that does not have Early Childhood credentials cannot hold a lead teacher position....only assistant.

**Crystal** · 08-12-2010, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by mac60

Why do some people always have to bring up "EDUCATION". Experience TRUMPS education everyday/everytime. Really, what is more important, a piece of paper or years of experience on the job.

Qualiticare....Just wondering.....how many children do you care for and how long have you been a provider.

I think they are both equally important. I wouldn't send my children to an elementary school or high school where the teachers do not have a degree, I see no difference with preschool.

I also think that, while experience is highly valuable, it does not necessarily equal quality.....I have met many providers with 20+ years of experience and many of them have the worst run, dirtiest and highest turnover rates of children of any programs I have ever visited....and I have visited many.

On the other hand, I have also met providers without a degree and lots of experience who run fabulous programs, and many with very little experience who start and run awesome programs.

I think it depends on the individual provider. And, I also think it depends on what the parent wants/expects in a program.

**mac60** · 08-12-2010, 08:35 AM

It will obviously depend on the state and their regulations, area, etc you are in whether or not a "degree" will bring in more money. I know in our rural town, the most expensive daycare pays minimum wage, and one employee in particular has 6 of her own children in experience and over 15 years experience working as a preschool teacher in the same center, and she has no degree, but is damn good at what she does.

**QualiTcare** · 08-12-2010, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by jen

Only if one is trying to stir the pot. Not very attractive behavior for a Mod.

It was originally a legit and reasonable question to the OP and of course someone has to turn it into a debate. That person wasn't me. I was speaking my mind before the mod status and I'll continue to do so. There's only one person whose opinion of my behavior matters and that person isn't you. I refuse to be part of the childishness but continue arguing amongst yourselves.

**Unregistered** · 08-12-2010, 01:59 PM

There's only one person whose opinion of my behavior matters and that person isn't you.

It's Michael, right???

**QualiTcare** · 08-12-2010, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered

There's only one person whose opinion of my behavior matters and that person isn't you.

It's Michael, right???

good guess

**Carole's Daycare** · 09-08-2010, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by jen

Sure they will...all he has to do is sign a form stating it is against thier beliefs.

So he can spread measles to a family with an infant at home too young to be immunized. 164,0000 children die from measles each year.

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