Operating an Unlicensed Daycare

[4mykids]

Covicted Child Abuser running Home Daycare under a false last name!

A woman that abused my niece & nephew, was investigated & found guilty of Physical Abuse, Level 3 & now listed on the State Child Abuse and Neglect Registry is running a Home Daycare in Virginia Beach under a false last name. Her boyfriend (my brother in-law) that was also found guilty of abusing his children(my niece & nephew), also on the Registry, lives in the same home as the Daycare. She is also advertising this Daycare on Facebook under the false last name.I have reported her ad to FB, I have emailed & made phone calls to CPS & Social Services and NOTHING is being done about this!!! What can I do to have this UNSAFE Daycare SHUT DOWN & have the FB page taken down?? Please help me! Thank you. :confused:

[Blackcat31]

A woman that abused my niece & nephew, was investigated & found guilty of Physical Abuse, Level 3 & now listed on the State Child Abuse and Neglect Registry is running a Home Daycare in Virginia Beach under a false last name. Her boyfriend (my brother in-law) that was also found guilty of abusing his children(my niece & nephew), also on the Registry, lives in the same home as the Daycare. She is also advertising this Daycare on Facebook under the false last name.I have reported her ad to FB, I have emailed & made phone calls to CPS & Social Services and NOTHING is being done about this!!! What can I do to have this UNSAFE Daycare SHUT DOWN & have the FB page taken down?? Please help me! Thank you. :confused:

You can use this link to find the contact information you need to report this to the authorities.

https://www.daycare.com/states.html

[frgsonmysox]

I just read this WHOLE thread, yes... it took me a while . I know it's old but since it got bumped this year I'll explain why I am unlicensed.

I looked at getting licensed in my state, and by doing so I would lose ALL my current families. I would ONLY be able to work from 6 am to 6 pm, when currently I am open 24/7. My families are military and need early early care or really late. They also need care for more than 12 hours (generally 14 or so), it also allows me to have irregular schedules for my families, which means I don't have to adhere to the 3 or less children rule, because my daycare falls under "irregular daycare" and therefore the amount of kids I can have is higher, but I try to keep at 3 or less at the same time - not counting my own.

Plus, as I have 5 kids and am trying for number 6, if I were to get licensed I would have to count my own kids, and I would only be able to take in TWO kids. So I get to take more not being licensed anyway. I follow all the rules, report my income, adhere to all the laws and regulations - I just won't become licensed as it ruins the type of daycare I want to have.

[unregistered]

What is the difference between being licensed and registered? Can you be on a food program if you are just registered?? If so how does that work? I have always been liscenced through the military and now that we have moved I am just trying to watch 2 daycare kids unlicensed ( my state says 3 or less unrelated children, so I am good)..anyways...I am new to this "off base" thing..LOL

[Blackcat31]

What is the difference between being licensed and registered? Can you be on a food program if you are just registered?? If so how does that work? I have always been liscenced through the military and now that we have moved I am just trying to watch 2 daycare kids unlicensed ( my state says 3 or less unrelated children, so I am good)..anyways...I am new to this "off base" thing..LOL

Being licensed and registered is different depending on what state you are in.

In my state (MN) there is ONLY licensed and not licensed. There is no such thing as registered.

Check with your state's rules here: https://www.daycare.com/states.html

or post your state and maybe someone from the forum is from your state and can elaborate on the subject.

Have you considered registering for the forum? We are a wealth of knowledge and can be really fun sometimes too!

There are perks to being a registered member of the forum.

[unregistered]

LOL I actually am registered..weird..I thought I was logged in, but it keeps taking me back to the log in page..so I log in and it tells me welcome and then takes me back to the log in again..hmmmm..I am in Nebraska..I was just looking for a way to still doing the food program without being licensed..if not I will prob have the parents pack a lunch and I will serve snacks..Like i said I only want two kiddos to care for...I will have to look into it! thanx!

[Unregistered]

what would be the difference between an "illegal" daycare and "unlicensed" daycare?

[TheGoodLife]

what would be the difference between an "illegal" daycare and "unlicensed" daycare?

Some states allow people to operate w/I a license if they meet certain requirements. I myself am "license exempt" as I oy care for 1-3 children besides my own at a time. Perfectly legal in my state!

[Unregistered]

just because someone isnt licensed doesent mean she is "illegal"

•In VA, An unregulated/unlicensed family day home is not inspected by the
state or its designee. It can legally provide care for no
more than five children, in addition to the provider’s own
children or children residing in the home, or no more than
four children under the age of two, including the
provider’s own children or children residing in the home,
at any one time. Homes that exceed capacity are operating
illegally.

I provide childcare out of my home in VA. I NEVER NEVER have more then 5 children at one time and its extremly rare I even have that many at 1 time. 90% of the time I have no more then 3 at one time. I claim everything I make, keep a reciept book, have contracts I use and everything, and keep immaculate records. I follow all the rules of my state. so just because someone is not licensed does not mean she is "illegal".

[rmc20021]

what would be the difference between an "illegal" daycare and "unlicensed" daycare?

An unlicensed daycare would be one in which the state allows a provider to operate business being unlicensed.

An illegal daycare would be one where the state does NOT allow a provider to care for children without being licensed.

[momofboys]

I really dont understand why most pepople here says it cost alot to become license. I just became group with 16 children and I paied 110 for cpr/first aid and 25 buck for rcs form. Thats it. Inspections are free the actual license is free. In what states cost so much. Im in NY.

Sometimes it is not just the cost for certifications - I have done those previously & have no issues keeping certifications up-to-date. I live in a state where licensing is not required. I choose not to become licensed for a couple of reasons. #1 - I never intend to care for more than 2-3 children at a time, #2 - I really don't want a separate agency/group/gov't coming into my own home & telling me how to run my business, I figure if the parents I provide care for are happy with my home & me that is what matters & #3 - If I did choose to be licensed they would likely tell me to make many costly updates to my home - we have a HUGE backyard (over 3/4ths of an acre) which is almsot unheard of to be in city limits where I live. Licensing would cerainly require me to fence it in & I am sure they would require many more updates on our well-kept (but older, circa 1940s home). We simply do not have thousands of dollars sitting around to fence in our yard among other updates. Those are the reasons why I operate a small in-home legally unlicensed childcare (& I do possess a 4-year-college degree & report my income!).

[Unregistered]

Mr Happy

Oh wow. Sounds like somebody is bitter!! Get a life, it is too short to be worried about someone hitting your stupid car. Big deal, if you seen them hit it, then surely you got the insurance information! Unless your, well, just lying to be bitter! Being happy is so much easier, just try it!

When would you say it becomes our business? How about when the parents parking for dropoff/pick-up block the area designated for MY vehicles or MY guests as they hang out and chat for twenty minutes every afternoon? How about when they actually block MY DRIVEWAY? How about when they hit MY CAR PARKED IN FRONT OF MY OWN HOME as they barrel out of the daycare's driveway? How about when a daycare parent parks in front on my home for well over an hour, blocking my garbage can and causing the weekly pick-up to skip collection at my home for the week?


Hmmm?

All happened.

Is it MY business then?

YOUR business should not interfere with me or my residence. If and when it does, then it becomes MY business.

These rules and regulations exist for a reason.

Oh, and btw, I happened to run a LICENSED home daycare for several years. So, yes, you better believe I will report anything not on the up-and-up.

[Unregistered]

i THINK STICKING YOUR NOSE INTO SOMEONE ELSES BUSINESS especially when it will not benefit you(such as,what makes you think you can get the child to watch)and hurt someone that is only trying to keep a roof over their head.
I am a widowed senior, that has raised 8 children and a few related children at different times. I struggle every month as I was left with no life insurance and depend on the money I make watching my friends 3 children over night while parents work. Recently some daycare person reported me for not having a licence. When notified I tried to get registered but couldnt because I dont have a diploma. How can a diploma or licence make me take care of these kids I have had 1 since birth. Its like saying Im not smart enough to watch these kids without a diploma.
How dare someone cause a senior widow such heart ache out of greed.
People you do this, I hope they can live with themselves. Now I may very well become homeless.

I agree we ran an unlicensed daycare for years from our house and we paid taxes on the income and everything. Never has anyone been hurt or neglected and all the children we treated like family. The parents were very happy and all. then one jealous person decided to attack and destroy everything we had. NOW we lost our beautiful home and our business. My family is in complete uproar. basically we don't know which end is up. It isn't fair what was done and these people have no conscience and are all about money. All we were doing was trying to keep a roof over our heads and now that is gone. It is amazing how these people can sleep at night. you know the lord said that money is the root of all evil through greed and jealousy. So they will be judged for that.

[kimmills]

Just because they are unlicensed doesn't mean she is not caring for the kids in her care as a licensed daycare does. Have you ever seen something that shouldn't be happening there? Are the kids unhappy or troubled? Are they troubling you in any way? Let her be. If she's doing a good job with kids where's the problem?

[Unregistered]

And ya know that is your right as a parent to prefer a licensed daycare provider. However, it is not state law that i be licensed if i only keep certin amount of children.So I'm not breaking the law! Also what makes you think that unlicensed daycare providers donn't claim there income? I pay my taxes just like everyone else. And another thing, you don't have to "licensed" to take child care courses! I am certified CPR (Adult, infant and child) and i also have 15 years of education all related to my career. All paid for out of my pocket! I have excellent references and a clean background. Oh ya, and i did nanny for 5 years for a family. I'm sorry but just because i don't hold that LICENSE doesn't mean that I am uneducated or a bad daycare provider. FYI: i haven't had to advertise for 5 years now, i operate on word of mouth and i also have a 6 month waiting list. Hows that for UNLICENSED.

So ...why exactly are you not licensed?