Operating an Unlicensed Daycare

[Unregistered]

Any one that is UNLICENSED is UNLICENSED for a reason -- they do not follow the rules otherwise they would see to it to be LICENSED even if it was not required for the number of children they keep. People that babysit inside their homes are usually uneducated to begin with-- or they would set up a proper business.

just for the record, I watch children in my home without being registered. This does not mean that I am uneducated, as I am not. I am doing this so I can spend more time with my own children as well as give some people an option to more affordable daycare for their children. The reason I am unlicensed is because I would rather spend time with my kids than filling out paperwork! I am CPR certified, have been through several child care classes, and love being around children. This is why I do what I do, not because I am not capable of anything else. I have ran my own business and it doesn't compare to how happy I am now.

[Unregistered]

My chuckle for the day

It is a no-brainer, folks. The laws are the laws. If your STATE requires that a home daycare be licensed if they are watching a certain number of kids, then they should be licensed. For those following the law as listed in posts here, hopefully, if you fall within the guidelines of having children over the minimum, then you will follow those guidelines and get licensed. I can't understand all the bickering back and forth about people minding their own busines, etc. My babysitter is not licensed. She should be because she has over the state limit. I've asked her if she was going to get licensed and she always said maybe. But she doesn't and refuses to giver her SS# so parents can claim taxes on their daycare costs. Now I pay taxes on my income but what, home babysitters are above the law and shouldn't have to? That is ridiculous. Instead, the babysitter is USING the system and having her kids on state medical insurance because she claims no income and her husbands income is used as the only income for a very large household. She is able to buy all new furniture, add a room, and remodel her kitchen all while I incur 1) hospital costs for a 3 day stay in the hospital for my child who got pneumonia from a baby in her care who had pneumonia 2) urgent care bills for a slammed finger in a door and 3) now that I qualify for child care assistance through the state cannot use it with her because she doesn't want to draw any attention to her predictament and take the chance of having to pay taxes on anything. Falling on deaf ears, maybe but people like me end up over-paying because of situations like this.. and YES before getting bombarded, I am looking for new daycare.

I realize this is a old post, but I had to respond because it's so full of holes and b.s.
You decided to use a "babysitter" because you were getting a smoking deal, and you figured it out, and determined you were going to still come out waaay ahead not making her pay the taxes. Then at the end of the year knowing she is a home sitter you got greedy and demanded her Soc. Sec. You wanted even a bigger break.. Did you ask her for a tax i.d.? And for one I would never give out my social either. Basically you knew this in the beginning, and accepted the terms and decided to cry wolf later. And yes I pay the taxes, but as a home sitter most parents do not ask for a tax i.d. and fyi I am completely legal. That was YOUR responsibility in the beginning.

Hard to believe BUT there are many parents that realize sitters have a hard job, they provide great care and they are getting a good break, and often don't ask. Really it is your job to find that out in the beginning, her taxes are her business, and how she spends her money.
Do you really think most people care if sitters are paying all of their taxes? You might want to investigate where your social security payments are going, and how well that gov't entity is managed, .

Your post is mainly about sour grapes which you didn't mention because I suspect it has nothing to do with the taxes. And btw you can still claim without her social...but I suspect you'll have issues with your next sitter. Hopefully she doesn't remodel her kitchen or buy new furniture!

[Unregistered]

Unlicensed daycare

I have an in home unlicensed daycare, and I love what I do. I will admit that getting it started was very hard and my husband and I had some hard times trying to pay our bills while I was doing it. I will also like to admit that i do not pay taxes on the income that I make weekly. I have only been doing daycare for 3 years now and have just now got to a point where I am making money. I only charge 75 per week so I provide a service to people who cannot afford licensed daycares and every parent knows I am unlicensed and I do not pay taxes on my income. I am very good at what I do and the kids are happy here. I am BARELY making a profit at all afetr food, drinks, crafts, toys, electricity, toiletries, etc.

Now on the subject at hand...

I think that there are unlicensed and licensed daycare that should NOT be open and I have no idea why people would take their kids there in the first place. The pool is no big deal as long as she is watching the kids and they arent out there playing around it. She should have respect for you and your house and if she is aware that she is affecting your income, maybe that should be something that you could talk to her about like adults.

I personally don't want to get licensed because of the fact that those people can come into my home anytime they want and if they see something that they don't like, they will take my kids! Drug addicts, alcoholics, people who have no business having kids all don't have to worry about keeping their kids but I can't spank my kids in Walmart fr throwing a fit.... You just never know anymore if what your doing with your kids coincides with the laws. The laws contradict themselves. You can't whoop your kids but a certain way and your kids aren't allowed to get into trouble without the parent getting into trouble, but discipline is not allowed... craziness. Anyways, I'm sure some of you women have something to say so lay it on.

[Unregistered]

just a thought

Daycare being run out of a rented condo. Landlord not aware . individual there for 4 months on section 8. damage to the toilet , electrical outlets, and ceiling from toilet being broken. Landlord being told each time something is broken multiple number of children being cared for approx. more than 6. In California is there any law to help the landlord remove this tenant who is very difficult to deal with in regards to property damage.

[familyschoolcare]

Sorry. but this is not what you want to hear but it is the truth.

In California the landlord can not stop someone from running a licensed day care on the property.

http://www.childaction.org/providers/publications/docs/Handout30-Tenant-Landlord_Issues.pdf

[sharlan]

Daycare being run out of a rented condo. Landlord not aware . individual there for 4 months on section 8. damage to the toilet , electrical outlets, and ceiling from toilet being broken. Landlord being told each time something is broken multiple number of children being cared for approx. more than 6. In California is there any law to help the landlord remove this tenant who is very difficult to deal with in regards to property damage.

You can't evict for the daycare, but you can for the damage. Contact licensing to make sure they are licensed, contact the DA about eviction.

[mac60]

Any one that is UNLICENSED is UNLICENSED for a reason -- they do not follow the rules otherwise they would see to it to be LICENSED even if it was not required for the number of children they keep. People that babysit inside their homes are usually uneducated to begin with-- or they would set up a proper business.

Lady you must have one set of balls to come on this forum and make this statement. If I was you, I would step back and read what you posted and then you should realize how totally rediculous your comments are, and then you owe many of us a sincere aplogy for your nasty rude statements.

[Crystal]

Lady you must have one set of balls to come on this forum and make this statement. If I was you, I would step back and read what you posted and then you should realize how totally rediculous your comments are, and then you owe many of us a sincere aplogy for your nasty rude statements.

:::::: ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! ::::::

[mac60]

Sorry, but that is just so rediculous.

[Crystal]

I agree.

[nannyde]

Any one that is UNLICENSED is UNLICENSED for a reason -- they do not follow the rules otherwise they would see to it to be LICENSED even if it was not required for the number of children they keep. People that babysit inside their homes are usually uneducated to begin with-- or they would set up a proper business.

My state doesn't offer licensing yet. The most we can do is register and we don't even have to do that. I think that may happen in 2013 if the funding for it comes through.

I'm a babysitter and I have a BSN and am a RN.

[Unregistered]

I'll tell what makes it my business.....i have to pay taxes on my earnings. This daycare providers income is hers!!!!!!!!!! She drives a new car (a charger). I guess it pays well. That along with all the welfare she qualifies for because her income is not reported.....yeah, it makes me mad as hell!!!!!!!!!!

I do daycare in my home. I only watch 2 to 3 children besides my own. I give out my SS number so that the parents are able to get the tax credit. After all the deductions I am in the negative. Then the loss from my daycare deducts from my husbands business. Sense I run at a loss, I'd rather not report it. But I want my families to get the tax deductions coming to them. Every thing is one the up and up, but hate that our tax file is essentially a red flag for an audit.

When I use to bring my daughter to daycare the daycare lady wouldn't take any deductions because she wanted to get more money from the Earned Income Credit.

[Unregistered]

If it is unlicensed, that's exactly why you report them, so they can be checked out and someone can see that they are on the up and up. Must there be a tragedy at the unlicensed place before something is done? If they cut corners on the license, they might be cutting corners elsewhere. If they have nothing to hide they will be fine. Report them you could save a kids life. A sex offender could be employed there you never know.

[Unregistered]

What are the consequences from operating an UNLICENSED daycare in IL? Is there a fine to pay? I am unlicensed and have run a home daycare for 3 1/2 years now. ALL the parents that I babysit for KNOW that I am unlicensed, it isn't something that I hide. And I claim ALL OF MY INCOME! I give them my SSN at the end of the year with a total of daycare paid. Everything is completely safe but I'm just not licensed. The process is going to require me to take time off AND find a daycare to put my own children in. I'm worried about being turned in for NOT being licensed.

I hate to put the parents out when they DON'T CARE if I'm licensed or not. They are going to have to make other arrangements while I take these classes.

There are MANY ONLINE courses that can be taken to meet the guide lines for state of IL I know if you are turned in for operating unlicensed daycare in IL you will be shut down and parents will have no choice but to find alternate care. There is very little cost to getting licensed ( CPR class Maybe ?? but most can be found for free at fire stations etc ) outlet covers, baby gates, fire extinguisher, smoke detectors, basic safety items really. As a licensed provider I feel if your not hiding anything and are dong everything right then why not be licensed What is the upside to be unlicensed ??

[Unregistered]

Not all states require that you be licensed. I do no think that in IL it is required.

Illinois has some of the strictest licensing requirements unless you watch only 3 or fewer children which includes providers own children you need to be licensed and you must have 15 hours of training BEFORE starting which include SIDS and Shaken baby syndrome and fingerprint and background checks for all ppl living in the home over the age of 13