Do I Have To Pay Full Tuition If Child Is Out Sick?

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  • hcmom
    Daycare Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 26

    #16
    Originally posted by melissa ann

    I don't understand how parents have no problem paying for a parking space, cable, electic, etc even when they are not using it and think nothing of it. Their children should be their most precious possession and they want to groumble over $16-$30/day if their child is not there. I charge $18 for 11 hours. Insane, I know. How many of the parents out there make that much a day for less hours?
    And yes, most doctors, dentists, ect will charge even if the appt was missed.
    I don't charge for my 1 week vacation, up to 5 personal days or holidays. IF I"m closed, I don't charge. If I allowed parents not to pay when they decide to keep their child home for any number of reasons. I would be broke. I might as well open a "Free" daycare at that rate.
    DITTO, DITTO, DITTO... I completely and totally agree.

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    • Liliya
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 156

      #17
      Originally Posted by melissa ann

      I don't understand how parents have no problem paying for a parking space, cable, electic, etc even when they are not using it and think nothing of it. Their children should be their most precious possession and they want to groumble over $16-$30/day if their child is not there. I charge $18 for 11 hours. Insane, I know. How many of the parents out there make that much a day for less hours?
      And yes, most doctors, dentists, ect will charge even if the appt was missed.
      I don't charge for my 1 week vacation, up to 5 personal days or holidays. IF I"m closed, I don't charge. If I allowed parents not to pay when they decide to keep their child home for any number of reasons. I would be broke. I might as well open a "Free" daycare at that rate.

      DITTO, DITTO, DITTO... I completely and totally agree.



      Me too!!!!!

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      • AmandasFCC
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 423

        #18
        "I'd like to see these "contracts" include an incentive to NOT bring my sick kid into their home daycare and offer at least a 1-2 day sick day leave per month or quarter."

        I'm sorry, you want us to pay YOU when your kid is sick and you have to watch them? Are you mental?

        I can count on 2 hands how many times my doctor has had to reschedule appointments on short notice because she's delivering a baby, in just 2 years of being her patient. Did I bitch and moan about this? No. It happens.

        When I'm off sick, parents don't pay. I'm unable to provide a service, so I don't charge for it. If the kids are sick, I do still have to hold that space. And guess what? The mortgage company still bangs down my door for the same amount of money regardless of if your kid was sick and I didn't get paid. Same with the cable company, electric, gas, etc. I have to hold that space for you - unless by some miracle someone happens to call for a drop-in that day, so guess what, you still have to pay.

        And like everyone else has said, all doctors, lawyers, chiropractors, etc. that I've been to in private practice charge AT LEAST a $25.00 missed appointment fee. SO **** IT UP!!!

        Do you want quality care for your child? Then parents need to respect the fact that we have bills to pay, groceries, toys, and other things to buy in order to make YOUR kid comfortable throughout the day.

        I've only been on this site for a month and already I'm sick of reading the griping of parents for silly things. I have to repeat everyone else here. We get paid LESS than minimum wage in most cases for crying out loud. For me for a day, it's $35.00. You can't get your nails done around here for that, and most of the parents I have wouldn't sneeze at spending over $100 on a meal out. But you want to complain because I still charge you when your kid is sick? REALLY????

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        • tymaboy
          Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 493

          #19
          I dont get paid if the kids are not in care. I would like to go to being paid but as you can tell it would cause problems with the parents I have. What really gets me is what they pay us for the day while they are at work but look at what they are willing to pay for a sitter to go out for a few hours at nite. What they pay that person is usually more then what they pay us for a full day of care but they do that happily without complaining.

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          • mac60
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • May 2008
            • 1610

            #20
            You are right, my daughter cares occasionally for one of my dc families, and they pay her $20 for maybe 5 or 6 hours of care......I only get $16 for a full day at dc. Doesn't make sense. But then, dc providers are the last person that parents want to use their money for. don't get it.

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            • Unregistered

              #21
              put the shoe on the other foot

              your answer is all too clear -

              how sympathetic would you be to your employer if he expected you to work for 5 weeks for free or even 1/2 pay? i doubt you would because the bottom line is that your bills must be paid, and you count on that certain amount of money to cover them.

              or more in line with your thinking - what if you showed up to work and had nothing to do that whole day?? wouldn't you expect to be paid?

              also, it's not a personal matter. it's business. for a business to be strong and provide the best service possible, they must draw a line. would you be okay with the quality of your child's care being cut back because the director ignored the rules that everyone agreed to follow, and gave someone a big discount. i'm sure when you say "discount" you were not asking for 10-15%. let's say she agreed to 1/2. that's $550. where would you suggest she make LEGAL cuts to her staff, food, activities, etc. to accomodate that loss of income?

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              • Unregistered

                #22
                I wouldn't pay any of it. Greedy and no compassion. Plain and simple.

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                • tinytotzdaycare
                  Daycare Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 99

                  #23
                  childcare payments

                  My policy clearly states you will pay whether your child is here or not!

                  HOWEVER, when I have children absent for illnes for an extended time I would rather stay home so I will generally give them a break and only charge half and sometimes NONE

                  its all about respect!!!!!!

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                  • jen
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1832

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered
                    I wouldn't pay any of it. Greedy and no compassion. Plain and simple.
                    LOL! You crack me up! So, shall the provider just call the mortgage company and say, "Oh, I know I SIGNED A CONTRACT that said I would pay, but one of my daycare kids was sick so I can't." Do you think that they will have compassion, or just charge a late fee?

                    How about Target...If that was the providers grocery money do you think Target will feed her kids...out of compassion?

                    When you sign a contract you are expected to meet the terms of it. This is a business, not a charity. Here is a plan, don't sign up for things you don't intend on paying for.

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                    • cuddlebuggz
                      Daycare Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 24

                      #25
                      Tuition for Daycare

                      We charge even if children are out sick as well.

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                      • Former Teacher
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1331

                        #26
                        This subject was one of the biggest gripes I heard while I was in daycare. Parents don't understand that bills still need to be paid regardless of whether or not all the children are there or not.

                        I would always have to flatly tell them that tuition is due whether or not they are here. Whether we close early due to holidays, or bad weather it is still due. The biggest complaints would be around Thanksgiving because of the 4 day weekend. I would hear " I am paying you $115.00 for 3 days of care?!?!?" and things like that.

                        I just tell them, like many other posters, that hey, if you don't watch tv everyday you are still paying the cable company. If you don't use your phone, you are still paying them. With daycare, you are paying a spot. You don't pay for it, you can't have it.

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                        • cuddlebuggz
                          Daycare Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 24

                          #27
                          paying

                          I have read many great points on both sides and I can only say this...a clear contract and illness policy is a must!!! Be sure to discuss this in writing as well as in person so that both parties are clear on what is expected, sometimes parents will take things in a contract differently than what we as providers mean...be exact and spell it out if you have to.

                          By all means if you have a great family and they had a bad illness give them a break, is it worth losing a GREAT family over a few bucks once a year???

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                          • jen
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 1832

                            #28
                            A GREAT family will understand that you too have bills to pay

                            Originally posted by cuddlebuggz
                            I have read many great points on both sides and I can only say this...a clear contract and illness policy is a must!!! Be sure to discuss this in writing as well as in person so that both parties are clear on what is expected, sometimes parents will take things in a contract differently than what we as providers mean...be exact and spell it out if you have to.

                            By all means if you have a great family and they had a bad illness give them a break, is it worth losing a GREAT family over a few bucks once a year???

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                            • cuddlebuggz
                              Daycare Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 24

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jen
                              A GREAT family will understand that you too have bills to pay
                              I agree, that is very true...basically the only thing to do is be firm if you are not willing to budge and put it clearly in the contract!!!

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                              • KiddieCare

                                #30
                                The original poster said that she was calling the provider and giving her updates on her child, as a provider even if it wasnt discussed unless i had a WRITTEN notice from the parent then i would assume that they were coming back because of the updates and would hold the spot for them at the full fees that they agreed too..If mom had asked for a discount during any of the phone calls i would consider it IF the parent was a good client..If the mom hadnt called the daycare at all during that time then i would have implemented the 10 day no call no show termination, but thats not what happened,
                                As a mother of 4 i am constantly shocked and surprised at some of the things parents do/dont do for their children..
                                To the poster who said she would be taking her sick child to daycare to 'stick it to her provider' for charging for sick days, 'how awfull for you poor child', that you would make a child thats not feeling well attend anything rather than stay home like a good mother and nurish and care for your child is heartbreaking.. As a daycare provider, it's parents like you who are imature,irresponsible and disrespectful that causes so much illness in daycares. If a parent knowingly medicates a child to mask a sickness so they can attend my daycare is grounds for immidiate termination with the 2 weeks termination fee owed! By ringing sick kids you are not only exposing me my family but also all the hard working other families in my care..My first thought and worries are for the kids, i hate to see a child sick, and i am truly disgusted that parents,any parents would,will and do put their wallets before that of their kids..how sad..

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