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Sure, it's HER home - so she can - and DID purchase an animal that IMO poses a safety risk for small children, including my two daughters. You're right in that at least according to the laws of IL - it IS up to HER. Of course, what IS up to ME (and any other parents that may share the same concern) is to take MY business elsewhere. So, she can have her dog... and somebody else can have my money - that grip enough for you?
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I would think that the provider should have at least notified the parents to make sure none of the children have any allergies. And especially after getting the dog.
Mr Stint, have you talked to the provider yet to see where the dog is kept during daycare hours? Like someone mentioned, maybe the dog is some place where it couldn't possibly get loose? I would hope that's the case... Have her show you where it will be and ask how she's going to make sure it doesn't get near the children. I would not be mad if a parent came to me, politely expressing their concern and asking to see where my dog would be kept and what I'm using to keep it seperate. It just shows you're a responsible parent, protecting your child. I would want my parents to let me know of any concerns before they decided to terminate. If, after seeing where the dog is kept, you still don't feel any better about it, then you would have to make a decision, but in the meantime I personally wouldn't worry about what decision to make (unless your children will be at daycare before you are able to see where the dog is kept).
Let us know what you find out and decide to do.Comment
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I am a daycare provider and have never sent my own kids to day care but if I had needed to a pit bull would be a deal breaker for me. I own a large dog myself....not allowed around daycare kids ever. Give provider your two weeks notice but never take your child back there. I personally question the good judgement of a provider who thinks that it would be ok to get a pit bull and tell the day care parents after the fact.
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if she expects to be given notice when parents terminate, she should've given notice before getting a dog (ANY dog) but especially a dog known to be aggressive. i have a dog, but my son has also been bitten by a dog (and i was always skeptical even before that) but that just reinforced my opinion that even the most tamed animals are UNPREDICTABLE. and of course when it happened to my son, the famous words, "he's NEVER done that before" were used. i let parents know right away that i had a dog (and she's 10 pounds) and i kept her away at all times. if my child care provider got a pit bull, the pit's first day would be my child's last - and i'd dare her to ask me to pay for two weeks. so, yes, she can get one if she wants, but not without consequence.Comment
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It seems to be very obvious to me,
She changed the dynamic of the program you were happy with. Now you are not. She has made a decision to obligate herself to raise a puppy and simultaneoulsy watch children. I personally do not see how that is possible.
As far as the other family. I think that the diplomatic thing to do here is to tell them that you have something you have been contemplating, and that you haven't been able to rectify it- that dogs make you nervous around your daughter. You have been testing it out and you just cannot avoid this awkward request.Comment
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Thanks for the responses... It seems the best course of action would be to see if any other parents have similar concerns - perhaps we can all relay them as a group so to speak. What's funny is that the dad of my daughters best friend (also in the same daycare) who owns a pit bull came by last night.... so we casually asked him - hey, did you see the DC owner's new puppy? His response? "...yeah, it's a pit bull!" Not that I needed any confirmation but it still irks me the dog was presented soley as a 'weimaraner mix' upon inquiry. What's more - and to my earlier point - I'm about twice as big as the DC owner - and this guy is a lot stronger than ME - yet his OWN pit bull that was with him was able to push by him & right into our house - AND even was able to push open the door AGAIN once we got him back outside. Even HE said - yeah... we don't want him to come in with that new baby. So I just can't trust whatever system she may have in place to try & always keep the dog separate. At SOME point it'll get by her, her own kids, her helpers or whatever barrier she may have in place & come in contact with the kids... Like I said, we have REALLY enjoyed this DC provider & think she does a great job. We'll see how she responds to our/others' concerns - but honestly, I do think it shows a lack of judgement to even purchase this animal given the nature of the business she's running. I also think it shows a lack of consideration in not so much as informing anyone about it - if only for allergy reasons. The dog's still a little puppy so we've got some time to find alternative care - but it won't be easy. It's comparatively cheap to other places we checked out - but still not 'cheap' by any means...Comment
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in ontario we have a law about pit bulls now. But as a business owner that deals with children, its really really bad judgement on her part. As a parent I would be afraid to let my children be where there is a pit bull, and if this is a "new" pet, she has no idea how the animal is going to react to the children and how is she going to take care of your children and train the dog at the same time. I would look else where for care and just mention your concerns. I have children who came from another provider who had a boxer, well she said up front that because its her home the dog has free rein of the house, even in the play room where the kids were, the problem was, was that the dog would chase the kids around or nip at them or bark at them and then the kids started getting in trouble by her because she started blaming the kids for the dog acting up. (I own, a cat, guinea pig, a hamster and right now a dead fish which will be replaced today shhhhh, my dd doesn't know)Comment
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I don't think he ever said that she had to "ask" him first. But the common sense, morally right thing to do would be to at least inform parents that you are going to buy a dog (no matter what breed it is). Parents may choose your home specifically because it doesn't have pets or because they are fine with the pets that are there, but that's a pretty big aspect of a family home to not at least inform your daycare families about.
I provide daycare and have 3 dogs of my own.. 2 little yorkie/maltese mixes and 1 black lab. All 3 are amazing with kids and the kids love them. But anyone who interviews knows that I have dogs and they decide if they are comfortable with that. I love animals and I would pull my daughter out of a daycare if they got a pit or pit mix too, especially without letting me know they would be getting a dog.
I agree with other posters, I think you should call licensing for your county and see what rules she has to report such a change in her house to you, if any. Not because it will make her change her mind, but it would show that you've looked into the issue. Either way, I don't think it's your job to advise her that she maybe needs to reconsider having a dog. But it is your job to tell her you no longer feel comfortable sending your child to her house. She should know the reason you are leaving, because it was rude of her to not inform you of this big change to her house where YOUR kids spend their days.Comment
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I'm just trying to figure out why the OP values it.
I see their friends kid goes there but they have obviously had years of their friendship together where they haven't had their kids in the same day care.
So I don't see the value of the day care. If it's really cheap for two kids then I get it.
I see he says it's very affordable but that's different to me than really cheap. If it's really cheap (like two for the price of one) then I can see why he's trying to figure out how to have his kids go there and have the dog not be there.
Just askin... cuz it doesn't make sense to me.Comment
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it could be because most people want their kids in a stable environment, and after going there for awhile, his kid probably has formed a bond with the provider. it's not good to switch kids around and if at all possible, he doesn't want to.
i can see why he's trying to figure out if the dog can be there. it would **** for him to pull his child out, put her in a new place, and then find out a week later that the old provider got rid of the dog bc she wasn't supposed to have it or even because other parents confronted her.Comment
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If one of my day care parents went to "see if the other parents had similiar concerns" and attempted to "rally them as a group" then that parent would find his day care contract termed THAT day.
This isn't a democracy at my house. Any parent who would intentionally discuss with other day care parents something they wanted changed at my house and attempted to use the other parents agreement to sway me into changing something would be GONE that day.
Now if they wanted to "rally" together to give me an unexpected paid week off or rally together to donate a grand to a playground fund or rally together to give me a raise then RALLY AWAY day care parents...
But to rally to get me to change something in the day care.
Ahhh NO.
That would be extremely disrespectful and would end our great working relationship. Coming to me singly for any concern would be met with open ears. Coming to me after involving other day care parents in your concern would net me watching your backside walk out of my business that day that minute. The first whiff I got that you talked to my other clients would be the end of the conversation.Comment
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