Charging on Holidays

[Unregistered]

Agreed!!!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered
Exactly my thoughts *Interested*
"Sometimes I think parents whine more than children. You are paying for the slot, not for the hour. If you want it spelled out.... you have a yearly flat rate. It is broken down for your convenience. Or would you rather pay by the year?? The only thing to change this is what the policy makes exceptions to. Have you ever heard of salary pay? No matter how many hours you work, it is a flat pay. It is the same principle. Got a problem? Start your own day care and see what we are talking about, then maybe you would understand better. If we catered to everyones whims, we would watch your precious for free 24/7. "

My, you sound like a provider who really doesn't like parents or children... Maybe time to find a new profession? I am a healthcare professional and think it is completely fair to provide my childcare provider for the same paid holidays that most other professionals receive.. These would be Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc.. But, we had one who wanted paid time off for every school vacation day, including the 2 weeks off at Christmas paid! This is an extreme hardship on parents who must pay "double" and find someone else to cover those days. Many of these parents aren't lucky enough to be getting ANY paid holidays of their own... Of the ones who are, only parents who happen to be school teachers are getting as many paid holidays as this childcare provider. (We found someone new). If this woman wants so many paid holidays she should go back to college and get a teaching degree.

I couldn't have agreed MORE with this post. The lady above sounds COMPLETELY ridiculous! If you want all of those days off, then you do need a job that will require you to take those days off. And if you need so much vacation, then that's a sign that you really don't love what you do. You are CLEARLY in the wrong profession. I'm pissed about having to pay my provider full tuition for vacation days that neither my husband (GOVERNMENT WORKER) nor myself (corporate) receive. That's crazy! I should not have to accommodate your wants and needs. If you require "vacation days" that needs to be in the contract from the beginning. My provider not only took every holiday off, but also closed early some Fridays and took off a few days throughout the year for family vacation. Really? I haven't been able to take one because I have to use my vacation days to accommodate her schedule. I thought that daycares were in the business to do the opposite. Time to start looking for a new one. I shouldn't have to pay her to only work 4 days out of two weeks.

[kitykids3]

I couldn't have agreed MORE with this post. The lady above sounds COMPLETELY ridiculous! If you want all of those days off, then you do need a job that will require you to take those days off. And if you need so much vacation, then that's a sign that you really don't love what you do. You are CLEARLY in the wrong profession. I'm pissed about having to pay my provider full tuition for vacation days that neither my husband (GOVERNMENT WORKER) nor myself (corporate) receive. That's crazy! I should not have to accommodate your wants and needs. If you require "vacation days" that needs to be in the contract from the beginning. My provider not only took every holiday off, but also closed early some Fridays and took off a few days throughout the year for family vacation. Really? I haven't been able to take one because I have to use my vacation days to accommodate her schedule. I thought that daycares were in the business to do the opposite. Time to start looking for a new one. I shouldn't have to pay her to only work 4 days out of two weeks.

What? Daycares are supposed to accomodate to your schedule??
Ha! :: Since when does the public get to tell a business what hours they should be open/provide service?? No way would I be letting clients tell me what hours I should be open. Plus, if they want to change their contracted hours (whether for a week or permanently) then they ask if it is OK and if I have the resources to do so.
Granted, this isn't to say I don't do what I can as far as scheduling with the parents, but I would not have a daycare family as a client that EXPECTED me to accommodate their schedule or all their whims.

[Unregistered]

Do you get paid for your holidays? please consider that we have to pay the daycare staff for holidays too! Your getting paid for your holiday and you get the day with your child, huge bonus. If we are to keep our center open we have to have a pro rated system where by the year is broken down to daily manageble amounts. If this did not happen the fee's generally would be higher. Enjoy the holidays with your little one your being paid for it.

know I work for the school baord and we dont get paid for the holidays like people think when we do work we get part of the money we make each month and a percentage gets taken from that so the check is the same every month but its money I worked for on a different day. WE DO NOT GET PAID FOR HOLIDAYS and very few people do most that have a degree does not get paid for the holidays. Ive worked for child care and owned my own day care and you should not charge when you are closed period.

[Unregistered]

Give me a break...

For instance a home provider may charge for arguement sake $200 a week for up to 50 hours a week. That breaks down to $4.00 an hour. Gee that means more than worth it. I think most people under estimate what goes into child care profession along with the importance of this area. what price tag are you willing to put on your child? I know I wouldn't think twice about paying that or more for my infant.

Your calculations are soooo wrong... $200.00 would be PER CHILD! And, in most states in- home providers can keep up to six alone. That would be $1200.00 a week and more like $24.00 an hour.

[Unregistered Alabama]

Concerned Mother

I am very disappointed at all of you. post a link on here that shows its legal for daycares to do this to parents and we will shut up. While you are all complaining about parents what about parents like me working three jobs trying to keep my home, make sure my child has food on the table, and then the days your closed for I have to waste my time and money looking for someone to care for my child or taking time off which means I loose money...you negative nillies dont care about that. Yeah we want to make sure our kids have good care. but you are all strangers to us so take care of our kids and quit your whining or find another profession. not everyone has the luxury of going back to school to become a jerk like you.

[Angelwings36]

I am very disappointed at all of you. post a link on here that shows its legal for daycares to do this to parents and we will shut up. While you are all complaining about parents what about parents like me working three jobs trying to keep my home, make sure my child has food on the table, and then the days your closed for I have to waste my time and money looking for someone to care for my child or taking time off which means I loose money...you negative nillies dont care about that. Yeah we want to make sure our kids have good care. but you are all strangers to us so take care of our kids and quit your whining or find another profession. not everyone has the luxury of going back to school to become a jerk like you.

Two things:

1. Show me it's illegal for provider's to charge for their holiday time.

2. Some provider's are struggling just like you are. If you don't like paying your provider for her time off find another provider that doesn't charge for her holidays.

[MissAnn]

I am very disappointed at all of you. post a link on here that shows its legal for daycares to do this to parents and we will shut up. While you are all complaining about parents what about parents like me working three jobs trying to keep my home, make sure my child has food on the table, and then the days your closed for I have to waste my time and money looking for someone to care for my child or taking time off which means I loose money...you negative nillies dont care about that. Yeah we want to make sure our kids have good care. but you are all strangers to us so take care of our kids and quit your whining or find another profession. not everyone has the luxury of going back to school to become a jerk like you.

Just did my taxes. Once again I did not make minimum wage. Sorry, but I think I deserve a few vacation days as well as holiday pay. There is no link that will tell holiday pay is legal. It's in our policy that you either accept or not accept. If you don't agree, you either need to hire a babysitter or someone who does charge for vacations or holidays. Simple that.

[MarinaVanessa]

Yes it goes on and on my friend ...

[Crystal]

I am very disappointed at all of you. post a link on here that shows its legal for daycares to do this to parents and we will shut up. While you are all complaining about parents what about parents like me working three jobs trying to keep my home, make sure my child has food on the table, and then the days your closed for I have to waste my time and money looking for someone to care for my child or taking time off which means I loose money...you negative nillies dont care about that. Yeah we want to make sure our kids have good care. but you are all strangers to us so take care of our kids and quit your whining or find another profession. not everyone has the luxury of going back to school to become a jerk like you.

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-really-legal-for-daycares-to-charge-for-days-1069159.html?ref=related_documents_title_1

[Meeko]

One would assume that most parents would be smart enough to understand.

Your daycare provider is NOT YOUR EMPLOYEE.

SHE decides when to open, what to charge etc. It's HER business.

If you don't like it, why on earth did you sign the contract????????

There ARE drop in places out there. You CAN pay daily if you wish.

Oh, you like your provider and she's good to your child????

THEN PAY HER!

[nanglgrl]

Yes it goes on and on my friend ...

Someone started singing it not knowing what it was....

[Evansmom]

Someone started singing it not knowing what it was....

And they'll continue singing it forever just because...::

Seriously the poster who brought this thread up again sounds like a troll to me.

[Unregistered]

*Do you pay for a whole month of cable-even if you only watch it 24 days a month?
* Do you pay full price for your VCR if you only use it twice a week?
* Do you pay full price for your meal even if you don’t finish it?
* Do you pay the same rent/mortgage even when you are at work 5 days a week?
*Do you pay your full car payments if you only drive it a few days a month?
* Do you pay your whole cable bill if you only watch TV one day a week.

This list could go on but it amazes me that people can't grasp the concept when it comes to Day Care services.........:confused:

I fully agree....... I run my own day care and I charge for all stat holidays ..... for it would be like you not getting paid for your vacation which is added into you weekly pay.... or your boss closing for a month days and not paying you.... or say your boss say you need to come to work on the sat / sun when you normally do not and then says you are not being paid for those days..... what a lot of people forget is that all their extra pay ( vacation, sick, maternity, holiday, etc are added into their weekly pay... they are also entitled to sub or some for of pay while off work .... as for a lot of private daycares do not have that option ..... as well if a person works on the stat holiday they get paid time in half ..... I would really like to see or hear of a boss telling their employer that they need to work but will not get paid, or a supplier go to a company and say you need to take this product and sell it but you get nothing for it or how about a boss saying that you do not get to have any breaks or lunch and you need to work 12 hours strait and your only making $30 a day when most people are making $80 a day or more plus their vacation, stat holidays, retirment etc..... it does not and will not happen.... so why should you get paid for you staying home on holidays, vacation, maternity etc and the daycare providers do not..... I have had clients when I first started drop their children off at 6:00am and not pick up til 6:00pm on a holiday..... ( dad would sleep all day, mom would go shopping, pay bills, get hair & nails done massage, cook dinner, clean house etc) then come and complain that its way to hard to do any stuff when their child is with them ...... so because I was being taken advantage of from soooo many clients I added the stat holidays in my contract...... for why do I need to care for you child on any stat holiday while you get to do as you please and get paid.... are you willing to care for my child 5 days a week for me to show up when ever and not want to pay for late fees or holidays just so I can go shopping, get hair & nails , cook dinner, clean my house, etc..... I dont think so..... sorry for the rant .... but tired of people taking advantage of the hard working loving caring dedicated professional daycare providers........

[Unregistered]

I run my own day care and I charge for all stat holidays ..... for it would be like you not getting paid for your vacation which is added into you weekly pay.... or your boss closing for a month days and not paying you.... or say your boss say you need to come to work on the sat / sun when you normally do not and then says you are not being paid for those days..... what a lot of people forget is that all their extra pay ( vacation, sick, maternity, holiday, etc are added into their weekly pay... they are also entitled to sub or some for of pay while off work .... as for a lot of private daycares do not have that option ..... as well if a person works on the stat holiday they get paid time in half ..... I would really like to see or hear of a boss telling their employer that they need to work but will not get paid, or a supplier go to a company and say you need to take this product and sell it but you get nothing for it or how about a boss saying that you do not get to have any breaks or lunch and you need to work 12 hours strait and your only making $30 a day when most people are making $80 a day or more plus their vacation, stat holidays, retirment etc..... it does not and will not happen.... so why should you get paid for you staying home on holidays, vacation, maternity etc and the daycare providers do not..... I have had clients when I first started drop their children off at 6:00am and not pick up til 6:00pm on a holiday..... ( dad would sleep all day, mom would go shopping, pay bills, get hair & nails done massage, cook dinner, clean house etc) then come and complain that its way to hard to do any stuff when their child is with them ...... so because I was being taken advantage of from soooo many clients I added the stat holidays in my contract...... for why do I need to care for you child on any stat holiday while you get to do as you please and get paid.... are you willing to care for my child 5 days a week for me to show up when ever and not want to pay for late fees or holidays just so I can go shopping, get hair & nails , cook dinner, clean my house, etc..... I dont think so..... sorry for the rant .... but tired of people taking advantage of the hard working loving caring dedicated professional daycare providers........

[Unregistered]

I understand the parent's complaints about having to pay for child care when they are not using it, really I do. However, I also understand the providers' side of this.

As a provider who DOES charge for holidays, as well as a week of vacation and four floating holidays of my choice, I must say that in 16 years I have never been questioned about it. Here is why:

I provide a very high quality program, spending a significant amount of my "income" on my program, (MUCH more than I do on myself or family)

I work 12+ hours per day (up at 5:00, working in the playroom preparing for the days activities and cleaning the restrooms, mopping floors, etc. by 5:30, open doors at 7:00-sometimes earlier if needed - for FREE- work until 5:30-6:00-sometimes later if needed-for free - then clean up and shut down until 6:30-7:00) I don't get paid overtime.

I NEVER take a sick day, (really, 3 in 16 years and those were major emergencies)

I provde mildly ill child care - so if your child has a virus that most providers would require her to stay home for AND charge you for it, they can stay with me so you don't miss work (this is provided in another area, away from well children)

I offer alot of "extras" for my families, such as I do not charge late fees if a parent calls and says they are running a little late to pick up (who works late without getting paid for it? Providers do) open early if needed, plan weekend outings with families that I pay for, etc.

I charge less than the average rate for my area and do not charge more for infants just because they are infants.

I spend upwards of 600+ hours per year participating in training and school so that I can be the BEST provider for your children....time taken away from my own family and money as well, because no one else pays for my education. Many of my Saturdays and Sundays (two weekends per month) I am in school from 9-5

I am very active in the child care community, advocate for parents and children and provide resources for my families that they otherwise would not know about.

I am SUPER dependable.....my parents KNOW that if they are scheduled to be here, I will, without fail, be here and be READY for their children.

I could go on and on and on.....but my point is MANY (and I dare say most here) do all of the same things I do, and we do it with a SMILE, because we love your children and we love our work. All we ask for in return is a little respect, a timely "paycheck" and a few measley holidays off to spend with our own families.

I am very privileged to have the families I have. They VALUE having me as their provider, and the HAPPILY pay me for extra days off AND give me GREAT Holiday Bonuses as well! If they treated me with the disdain that some of the parents here have expressed, well, they'd be losing out on a great thing, because I would absolutley REFUSE to work with a parent who did not value my work with their children enough to pay for a few holiday closures.

100% agree very well said.......