Disciplining Children Violently

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  • nannyde
    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
    • Mar 2010
    • 7320

    #16
    Originally posted by CONCERNED MOM
    I forgot, I did pay her for the next 2 weeks. The kids didn't leave anything there, but she was paid on Thursday, before the incident happened Friday. Since I have taken this week off due to this, I don't have to worry about this week, but next week I do have to pay the new provider. If you were in my position, would you just let her keep the money to be done w/ her family?
    Do you have a notice clause in your contract with her? You have the right to remove your children but you might still owe her money.
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    • sharlan
      Daycare.com Member
      • May 2011
      • 6067

      #17
      Personally, I'd let her just keep the money if you can afford it. Be done with this provider.

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      • Jewels
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 534

        #18
        Originally posted by nannyde
        Do you have a notice clause in your contract with her? You have the right to remove your children but you might still owe her money.
        I dont think a clause would make a difference with abuse going on, its not a safe environment.....

        However considering you already paid her, I dont think you will get it back, just walk away, and take the loss, even though it ****s, and you should get your money back.

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        • AmyKidsCo
          Daycare.com Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 3786

          #19
          You did the right thing!

          About the money, if anything in the contract says you'd be entitled to a refund I'd write a letter asking for one, but if not just let it go. It stinks, but probably isn't worth the hassle.

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          • CONCERNED MOM

            #20
            Where we live, if a parent has a reasonable suspicion that their kids are not safe in the care they picked, contractual obligations to pay are null and void. It has to be able to be proven, which can be very sticky in a lot of cases.

            However, I do feel that if she tried to fight me on it, I could easily have the 10 & 8 yo speak up (even the youngers could) to the judge and describe exactly what they saw and it would be an easy case.

            That being said, I just let her keep the payment. I feel that asking for it back would be nothing but drama especially since I suspect she should be or has gotten a visit from the state. The case # I was given to punch into automated system simply says that the case is still open and being investigated, so I have no way of knowing whether or not anything will be done but what I DO know is that she'd KNOW it was me who reported because that day, she ONLY had our kids and one other dck (who is an infant). So, to keep my sanity and the peace, I just let it go.

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            • sharlan
              Daycare.com Member
              • May 2011
              • 6067

              #21
              That was probably a very wise decision.

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              • Unregistered

                #22
                I think by letting her keep the payment it gives more credit to the investigation. Sometimes parents place false complaints in order to avoid paying the final two weeks.

                I agree you were not obligated to pay it under the cicumstances. I'm happy to hear you pulled your children quickly and reported it. I hope their family gets the help they need.

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                • Josiegirl
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 10834

                  #23
                  Sounds like the dad seriously needs some anger management classes.

                  I hope your new daycare works out much better! As far as the money, I would just let it go and not contact them again(considering you've already given your notice).

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                  • kimmills
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 56

                    #24
                    Originally posted by CONCERNED MOM
                    Where we live, if a parent has a reasonable suspicion that their kids are not safe in the care they picked, contractual obligations to pay are null and void. It has to be able to be proven, which can be very sticky in a lot of cases.

                    However, I do feel that if she tried to fight me on it, I could easily have the 10 & 8 yo speak up (even the youngers could) to the judge and describe exactly what they saw and it would be an easy case.

                    That being said, I just let her keep the payment. I feel that asking for it back would be nothing but drama especially since I suspect she should be or has gotten a visit from the state. The case # I was given to punch into automated system simply says that the case is still open and being investigated, so I have no way of knowing whether or not anything will be done but what I DO know is that she'd KNOW it was me who reported because that day, she ONLY had our kids and one other dck (who is an infant). So, to keep my sanity and the peace, I just let it go.
                    Do you think childrn would speak up against those fierce monsters who they fear so much? They are beaten up and they see violence each and everyday- I don't think they would have the courage to speak against them. If they had the courage then they would have informed their parents about it and they would have removed them from this daycare.

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                    • CONCERNED MOM

                      #25
                      Update

                      So my kids go to a smaller daycare now and so far like her a lot. The lady is a single older grandmother and keeps only her grandchildren, one other baby and now my kids.

                      Only my oldest says sometimes it's "boring" but she's always bored if she's not doing just what she wants.

                      So far, they've already went to the zoo, they went to a couple of stores, library, water park, regular park and are enjoying their summer.

                      There is NO yelling and screaming, my daughter said that it's kind of quiet and peaceful, except when baby cries. She is able to read a book without feeling like at any moment she'll be interrupted. My other kids feel she is much nicer.

                      The ONLY problem is that she's only summer care. I have yet to secure my school care at this time but we have a few weeks still.

                      I do not know what is going on with the investigation. I call the hotline and put in the # and it still says "PENDING" so I am hoping something is really being looked at.



                      As far as the last post, kimmills, I'm not sure I understand. My children ARE the daycare children. They WILL and did speak up and that is how I was alerted to what was going on and found other care. I don't think DCP's kids would talk, but they wouldn't need to. I'm actually quite sure that my kids will be interviewed fairly soon, since it is protocol here that all child care children in care at the time of complaint are to be interviewed. As to when, I don't know. The case is still 'pending'

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                      • Familycare71
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1716

                        #26
                        Are there any updates on this? I hope it worked out well!!

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                        • CONCERNED MOM

                          #27
                          Update

                          My oldest child was interviewed. It was pretty quick. She told the truth and IDK what's happened with the situation since. We have not heard any updates and I saw mom at a church event dropping off both the boy that the dad threw and their other child last month. Not sure what is going to happen, if anything.

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