Daycare Withholding Information

[Cat Herder]

Another thought: If your childs daycare uses the sliding fee "contracted hours" model, you can respectfully request to have reimbursed childcare expenses limited to the rate of 9 hours per day.

** That gives 8 working hours and 30 minute, each way, commute time. It would prevent marathon stays (which benefits the child the most lovethis) and unexpected costs for extra services. If either parent requires more on their time, they foot their own bill. If either requires less, they have the savings to use during the extra time spent with the kiddo (benefits the child the most lovethis)

If presented correctly (no emotions, calm/rational, mutually beneficial approach), it really is the most fair option for both parents and especially the child. I can't imagine a scenario where a judge would see it as anything other than fair.

[daycarediva]

Address it in court. Let the judge know that you have been concerned about the fluctuating costs and would like to see if their is a way to get receipts, or a copy of the contract that outlines policies/payments, directly from the provider. (So you can budget for your child's care) It's a reasonable request.

I would ask your lawyer for a copy of the child care contract with weekly rate outlined. She legally has to prove how much she is paying.

It sounds like you may be asking the wrong questions. It is possible that your childs daycare does not attach attendance to tuition rate; like many of us.

** Flat rate tuition is common place as it provides the most stable income for small providers. **

The information you want is your contracted tuition rate, not attendance schedule. You should have that information on your copy of the signed childcare contract if you also have contracted for services with the same provider.

Requesting a childs attendance schedule during the other parents time may imply that you intend to micromanage the other parents lifestyle or use that information to somehow become high conflict. While most likely not true in your case, you'd be shocked at how many times this situation comes into play.

YES, exactly this. My parents pay a contracted set rate.

Another thought: If your childs daycare uses the sliding fee "contracted hours" model, you can respectfully request to have reimbursed childcare expenses limited to the rate of 9 hours per day.

** That gives 8 working hours and 30 minute, each way, commute time. It would prevent marathon stays (which benefits the child the most lovethis) and unexpected costs for extra services. If either parent requires more on their time, they foot their own bill. If either requires less, they have the savings to use during the extra time spent with the kiddo (benefits the child the most lovethis)

If presented correctly (no emotions, calm/rational, mutually beneficial approach), it really is the most fair option for both parents and especially the child. I can't imagine a scenario where a judge would see it as anything other than fair.

and they pay extra for anything over 10 hours, most centers are open 6-6, so this would qualify as additional/unneeded expense.

Also, do you know what child care the child attends? Can you call as an interested parent and ask what their rates are?

[hwichlaz]

I'm in California. I have to give information about my facility and the child to both parents...but financial information/contract is between me and the party I'm contracted with. So I'd give you all of the info you wanted about your child's day and a copy of my policies and let you see your child's records...but the actual contract and money issues only get discussed with the person that pays me.

[Unregistered]

Daycare

In the State of Michigan if you have Joint Legal custody, and not physical custody, you have a right to request all documentation from healthcare, daycare, babysitter, and schools, period. If your daycare cantor supply you with documentation it is the recipients of the daycare supports responsibility to supply that information. You might want to hire an attourney to subpoena your ex to provide checks or cancelled checks form there bank or financial institution. It is the responsibility of daycare or babysitters to notify both parents of increase in charges. It is your legal right to have equal access to these institutions.

[Cat Herder]

"Confidentiality Policy

Information concerning you, your child, and your family is private and personal. Trust and confidentiality are essential to building trusting relationships. We are committed to maintaining your privacy and protecting your personal information. We will not disclose information except as required by law or when there is a threat to the health and safety of the individuals and families we serve."

*All non-custodial parents, please, get us legal paperwork instead of threatening or harassing us. We are not the enemy. We are stuck between a rock and a hard place and required to follow confidentiality rules with the parents we contract with. If you were not there for the interview, enrollment and we have never met you, that is your fault. Just get the paperwork and stay involved in your childs life regularly. We have the same goal for your child, both parents fully engaged. We don't want to withold information, we just don't want chaos in our private living rooms or in front of your children.

[flying_babyb]

Yes.

Does this provider have a website you could look up and view her policies? Or a publically listed phone number so you can have someone call posing as a potential new family and ask what her rates are? Maybe ask some questions about her holiday/vacation/sick policies so it's clear whether she charges regardless of attendance or not? If she tells your caller that her rate is $3/hour or $130/week or whatever and she doesn't charge for time a child isn't scheduled and then mom proceeds to charge you much much more than that it would definitely be grounds to take her back to mediation/court.

I would do this!

[Mom2Two]

OP

1. I would refuse to pay on anything other than a detailed, itemized receipt on company letterhead, that shows what SHE paid them, then pay your part of that. For any other kind of receipt, just. don't. pay. Let it be her problem and take YOU to court. Your stance would be reasonable--it's her that is being unreasonable. No one is expected to honor an unoffical looking receipt.

For all you know, she's on state assist and paying NOTHING.

2. On knowing attendance, check your state laws and your parenting plan/custody agreement. Ours says that a parent has the first right of caring for the child (my ds when he was little). In other words, my ex was always in his rights if he picked up from daycare--he always had the right to care for our son above and beyond daycare. You may find that this is the law for your state, as it is for ours.

3. ITA on checking the daycare policies. How hard can it be to get a copy of that? I email one out to anyone who calls after a little phone vetting, that's not hard to pass.

[hwichlaz]

Rarely does attendance have anything to do with how much you pay. It's like renting a house. You pay the rent no matter how many times you stay over at a girlfriend's house. Because of this, the house is there waiting for you when you get back to it.

Daycare is the same. You pay for a spot to be held for your use, regardless of attendance. I know very few providers that treat regular clients as drop-ins.

[Unregistered]

I'm in California. I have to give information about my facility and the child to both parents...but financial information/contract is between me and the party I'm contracted with. So I'd give you all of the info you wanted about your child's day and a copy of my policies and let you see your child's records...but the actual contract and money issues only get discussed with the person that pays me.

What if the daycare facility gave out contract/payment information to the other party can the facility be sued??

[Blackcat31]

What if the daycare facility gave out contract/payment information to the other party can the facility be sued??

Who did they give info to?
What state are you in?