Why Do Daycare Centers Not Have 2nd Shift?

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  • LuckyOnes

    Why Do Daycare Centers Not Have 2nd Shift?

    I am a little confused. I have been doing a search for daycares since this is now my only option since my family isn't available to care for my child. But I have noticed that where I live in NC there aren't any daycare centers that provide a real second shift (3pm to 11pm). Why is this? The only daycare service I can find are in-home daycares that are very dirty and unprofessional and 1 church daycare that is in an awful neighborhood. I am unable to change my work hours due to me having classes in the morning.
  • pingaa3
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 39

    #2
    Because most really good daycares open between 6am and 7 am and close around 6-7pm. That is when the majority of parents need childcare, so that's when most providers are open.

    After a 12 hour shift do you want to keep working until 4-5 more hours? Most in home providers have families and young children themselves. It's hard to find that kind of provider who is not burnt out and asleep by 11pm. I know I'm out by 10pm minimum and 9pm on a day that is really active and rough.

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    • lilbiddapopcorn
      lilbiddapopcorn
      • Aug 2008
      • 75

      #3
      It's true. We're tired.

      I offer the second shift but i'm starting to rethink it. I've only gotten one client who needs care for her children that late. Most parents are off by then or have family who's off by then that can watch them for free. And after running around all day, it's nice to have some time off.

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      • MelissaB

        #4
        I have to agree.....

        My husband and I started a child care business last August with the premise of offering second/third shift care. We were very excited and still are.

        However, we've had a lot less interest then we had thought there would be. We have one child who comes and her mom is a nurse. We had a parent who worked third shift for awhile but she ran into money problems and even with state assistance couldn't afford child care anymore so now her family is helping her out. I think that factors in too.

        When people look at okay so here is after hours care costs or here is seeing if I can get family to help out. They go towards family. Especially since a lot of family would be available at night since a large group work during the day and those who work at night or some work a retail/fast food job make only minimum wage and that means not much money to be able to afford child care. Its a crazy situation.

        We're still offering second and third shift but have just recently opened up to saying we'll take daytime too. However, we're going to limit how many daytime children we take on. Because as someone else mentioned we have a family and don't want to "work" 24 hours a day. We run our child care out of our home and are keeping it small. Thankfully our current after hours child is part time so that will help if we take on days.

        I'm sure the economy is also a factor. We had our rates a little higher since well our orignial thought if you work a second/third shift job in a factory you get paid a bit more so in turn care woudl be a bit more. However, we changed that quickly and went back to matching up with the average of the local daytime care around here.

        Just wanted to offer what I had found as well. We're in Michigan.

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        • Unregistered

          #5
          Second shift childcare needs

          Originally posted by pingaa3
          Because most really good daycares open between 6am and 7 am and close around 6-7pm. That is when the majority of parents need childcare, so that's when most providers are open.

          After a 12 hour shift do you want to keep working until 4-5 more hours? Most in home providers have families and young children themselves. It's hard to find that kind of provider who is not burnt out and asleep by 11pm. I know I'm out by 10pm minimum and 9pm on a day that is really active and rough.
          Why not get a second shift team at the center? I do not think the parent is expecting one worker to care for the kids for twelve or more hours, that would require another person taking over to relieve the day shift worker.
          Some parents have special needs children and have to work an alternate schedule to take care of their kids, or for the employer to accomodate their needs.

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          • jen
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1832

            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered
            Why not get a second shift team at the center? I do not think the parent is expecting one worker to care for the kids for twelve or more hours, that would require another person taking over to relieve the day shift worker.
            Some parents have special needs children and have to work an alternate schedule to take care of their kids, or for the employer to accomodate their needs.
            I think what the poster was saying is that many IN HOME providers don't offer second shift because they have already worked a 12 hour day and centers don't usually offer it because there isn't enough interest to make it profitable.

            Try contact your local Child Care Resource and Referral, they may be able to point you in the right direction.

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            • Kaddidle Care
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2090

              #7
              Originally posted by LuckyOnes
              I am a little confused. I have been doing a search for daycares since this is now my only option since my family isn't available to care for my child. But I have noticed that where I live in NC there aren't any daycare centers that provide a real second shift (3pm to 11pm). Why is this? The only daycare service I can find are in-home daycares that are very dirty and unprofessional and 1 church daycare that is in an awful neighborhood. I am unable to change my work hours due to me having classes in the morning.
              Have you considered hiring someone to watch your child in your own home? That way the child can be put to bed at a normal hour. I'm trying to figure out when YOU get a chance to sleep. :confused:

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              • nannyde
                All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                • Mar 2010
                • 7320

                #8
                There's no money in it and it's a very unstable population of clients and workers. You can make money but it's a lot of work to get the RIGHT clients to make money.

                There's a lot of issues of blending day shift into evening shift.... meaning clients needing both day hours and evening hours.

                Lots of issues with clients when they are off of work still bringing the child and then going out... then not returning at the right time.

                Parents want kids up until they get there however late that may be.

                And on and on...

                It's a tough shift. I did it for about fourteen years and had to really be very picky about who I took to make it work.

                I did an early bedtime and charged additional fees for the earlier afternoon arrivals.
                http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                • cheerfuldom
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 7413

                  #9
                  yes it is a really hard shift and plus, a lot of centers don't even offer it or only offer it if the demand can cover the overhead plus profit. Staying open for one kid is not even going to pay the worker let alone the extra electric bill, etc. It seems so easy for a parent to say "why can't someone do this for me?" but the bottom line is that daycare IS a business. It does not make business sense to offer a service that is not profitable.

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                  • Unregistered

                    #10
                    2nd shift

                    I can't say that I've ever even heard of a center that does 2nd shift. I would think that there would be too many problems with it. Besides, who would want to work at a daycare center with 2nd shift hours?

                    I'm a home provider and I only do 1st shift. I used to do 3rd shift, too, but between those 2 shifts, I had very little time for myself and my family.

                    OP, you would be better off trying to find someone to come to your place and provide care. I just don't think that you'll find a center to meet those needs.

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                    • Childminder
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1500

                      #11
                      I used to be open 24/7, only occasionally had call for 3rd shirt so I am only open for first and second now. I'm here anyway and the kids are in bed by 8ish or they don't come. There are very few of us that are open whether it's a center or family home. Like nanny said the group of people that work 2nd aren't as stable as we would like and personally they are the ones I am traditionally taking to court for payment. Second shift is usually bar waitstaff or some one that works retail and doesn't have a regular shift each and every week.

                      Definitely call your local Child Care Resource and Referral, they should have a data base for you to find hours you need. Not all homes are 'dirty and unprofessional' and all centers aren't perfect either. Maybe you could try craigslist or contact your church. Some little old lady might just love to watch your little one for a few extra bucks. Good luck.
                      I see little people.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #12
                        So Typical

                        The responses to the original post/question are so typical of people who have no understanding of lifestyles outside of their own. Working at night is a necessity for some people. Not everyone is married. Not everyone has family that has nothing to do but babysit for free. There is nothing at all wrong with not working a 9-5 job. The woman asked a simple question and got ridiculous judgmental comments. Be a little more open-minded, especially when someone is asking for help/resources. After all, it isn't 1950 anymore.

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                        • christinaskids
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 170

                          #13
                          The people on this forum were merely explaining this as a business sense. If it don't make money, then it don't make sense right? You wouldn't want to go to work for an employer that you heard didn't pay you half the time.

                          I offer 24 hour daycare during the week and haven't had too many problems. I have one family with 3 little girls that is on state assistance and they are very well behaved. I have had a few drop ins but nothing as stable as a daytime fulltime child. It is ok as far as extra income, but not very stable at all. The only parent Ive had that had a problem paying so far was at night also. I really enjoy the night shift and really wish it was more stable so that I could only do the night shift and have the daytime free for appointments and my spending time with my son and taking naps but it just isn't happening so far.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #14
                            2nd shift daycare

                            As several people have stated, demand drives supply. We live in Ohio and send our son to an excellent daycare that provides service until 9pm. If you live in Vegas you can find plenty of 24 hour daycares. Once again it all comes down to demand.

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                            • frgsonmysox
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 235

                              #15
                              My husband is military and we live in a military community (obviously) where mid shift and swing shifts are common. I'm planning to open up daycare in June and I'm considering advertising 24 hour care, in case my kids parents switch shifts. I'm only taking 3 kids in so I think it would work out okay.

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