Daycare Provider Paid Time Off

[Mike]

Really? Wow...you're lucky!

You only pay a car payment depending on the days you actually drive?! You don't owe if you are sick in bed?! I have to pay the same monthly amount regardless!

You get a refund on your cable bill if you don't watch TV one night?! I have to pay a set monthly fee!

You only pay your gym by the hour? Around here, folks pay a monthly fee whether they use the gym or not!

You get a reduction in your internet fees if you don't log on one day?! Wow...around here, it's a set fee regardless of how much you use it!

You are very lucky to only have to pay for what you actually use at any given time!

Daycares charge a flat monthly fee just like MANY other business's.

I am glad that I have wonderful daycare parents who actually appreciate the care I give their little ones and GLADLY give me a few days off with pay so I can relax and do my job better after a break. If I wasn't paid, I couldn't afford to take any time off and would be tending children while burnt out and tired.

I feel sorry for your provider. You obviously don't appreciate her enough to give her anything but the minimum amount of money.

I find parents like you are the ones who buy the best car they can afford, the best home they can afford, the best TV, the best smart phone, the best clothes...they take paid vacations......and then look for the cheapest daycare they can possibly find.

I guess it all comes down to priorities.

I love this reply.

I have 2 vehicles. One has been parked for 3 months because it needs too much work right now. I've been paying insurance for both of them, until yesterday. I finally called to cancel the insurance on the dead one. I told them it's been parked for 3 months. They never offered to refund me. I guess I should call back. ::

The joys of rehashing old threads.

[Unregistered]

Self Employed

Many, many companies pay for someone else to do a job that needs to be done when someone is on vacation or off of work sick.

In fact, I can't think of many companies that don't.

Do you have a paid vacation? Do you have paid sick days at work?
Why shouldn't a provider have those same benefits?

But here is where I am very confused....They are offering a service. We are not there employer, as they are Self Employed... so help me to understand why are we paying for a Service that is not being given certain weeks out of the year????

[Leigh]

But here is where I am very confused....They are offering a service. We are not there employer, as they are Self Employed... so help me to understand why are we paying for a Service that is not being given certain weeks out of the year????

I charge yearly tuition. I let parents pay it weekly, every two weeks, monthly-whatever works for them. I need to make that yearly number in order to meet my overhead. When parents sign on, they understand that the ENTIRE tuition must be paid, regardless of attendance. They understand that I will take some time off, and they will as well, and that tuition does not change because of that.

Does your cable company charge you when you aren't watching TV? Does your mortgage company discount when you are out shopping, at work, or on vacation and not using your house? Same here-my clients agree to pay a set amount, and that is what I expect them to do. If this doesn't work for YOU, then why would you sign on with a provider who operates this way?

[daycarediva]

But here is where I am very confused....They are offering a service. We are not there employer, as they are Self Employed... so help me to understand why are we paying for a Service that is not being given certain weeks out of the year????

Same with your mortgage/rent, cell, cable, internet. It's a service with a set price. REGARDLESS of how often you're home, watch TV, surf the net, you're charged.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE CONTRACT, DON'T SIGN.

[getnsmart]

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the daycare scene and would like to know what is within the legal guidelines for charging for time off. My daycare provider charges me for 14 holidays, 10 vacation days (hers), sick days (hers), emergency days (hers). She charges $32 a day. My child is there part-time. She provides no back up but, she does give advance notice for vacation time. I am having a problem with her paid vacation and sick time. How many of employers pay their employees vacation time and then pay someone else to do the work their employee who is on vacation does? The same goes for sick time. I'm confused. Who works for who?

frustrated in ny

All these questions should have been asked in the beginning of interview. I would terminate you because you are a "irritater of policy". You are the one who needs childcare. If you don't like her policy find another daycare. Don't worry about the provider MORE children will Come

[Leigh]

All these questions should have been asked in the beginning of interview. I would terminate you because you are a "irritater of policy". You are the one who needs childcare. If you don't like her policy find another daycare. Don't worry about the provider MORE children will Come

Originally Posted by kgravino View Post
Hi everyone!

"I'm new to the daycare scene and would like to know what is within the legal guidelines for charging for time off. My daycare provider charges me for 14 holidays, 10 vacation days (hers), sick days (hers), emergency days (hers). She charges $32 a day. My child is there part-time. She provides no back up but, she does give advance notice for vacation time. I am having a problem with her paid vacation and sick time. How many of employers pay their employees vacation time and then pay someone else to do the work their employee who is on vacation does? The same goes for sick time. I'm confused. Who works for who?

frustrated in ny"

I don't know where you found this post in the thread, but first of all, :::::: at thinking he's the employer of a business owner. Second, "How many of employers pay their employees vacation time and then pay someone else to do the work their employee who is on vacation does?"...ummmm, ALL of them? When you take vacation from say, WalMart, and they have someone else cover your shift, who is paying? The EMPLOYER. ::::::

[Cat Herder]

I don't know where you found this post in the thread

It was the OP back in 2008. I am sure it is bumping up because this coming Monday is a paid holiday for many of us.

[Blackcat31]

It was the OP back in 2008. I am sure it is bumping up because this coming Monday is a paid holiday for many of us.

Yep... I noticed a while back that certain threads always resurface during certain correlating times of the year.

The sad part though is 2008-2017... almost 10 years and parents are still hung up on feeling "robbed" or "cheated" when having to pay for daycare when the closed but they have NO issue paying for days they technically don't need care (off work).

So when broken down and translated, most are just miffed they have to actually mind their own children. :: ::

[Cat Herder]

Yep... I noticed a while back that certain threads always resurface during certain correlating times of the year.

The sad part though is 2008-2017... almost 10 years and parents are still hung up on feeling "robbed" or "cheated" when having to pay for daycare when the closed but they have NO issue paying for days they technically don't need care (off work).

So when broken down and translated, most are just miffed they have to actually mind their own children. :: ::

I hear you!! I actually offered to trade a client a week of childcare for about an an hour of his company's pressure washing services (playground equipment). He countered back with 2 weeks citing a standard service charge.

Perspective.

[Snowmom]

I don't know where you found this post in the thread, but first of all, :::::: at thinking he's the employer of a business owner. Second, "How many of employers pay their employees vacation time and then pay someone else to do the work their employee who is on vacation does?"...ummmm, ALL of them? When you take vacation from say, WalMart, and they have someone else cover your shift, who is paying? The EMPLOYER. ::::::

Lol.

Back in my college days, I worked in a temp agency.
My sole responsibility was filling in for employees on leave.
Whether it was maternity leave, vacations or illnesses, it was my job to temporarily fill that void.

That was how the temp agency made money... employers filling the void of employees on paid breaks.

[Leigh]

I hear you!! I actually offered to trade a client a week of childcare for about an an hour of his company's pressure washing services (playground equipment). He countered back with 2 weeks citing a standard service charge.

Perspective.

Exactly. One hour of his time=100 hours of yours.

[nanglgrl]

You don't HAVE to pay for a spot when your provider is home just like homeowners/renters don't HAVE to pay their rent/mortgage when they're in vacation or not in their home. Just be prepared for your daycare provider, landlord or bank to let someone else move in and take your spot!

[daycarediva]

Yep... I noticed a while back that certain threads always resurface during certain correlating times of the year.

The sad part though is 2008-2017... almost 10 years and parents are still hung up on feeling "robbed" or "cheated" when having to pay for daycare when the closed but they have NO issue paying for days they technically don't need care (off work).

So when broken down and translated, most are just miffed they have to actually mind their own children. :: ::

Exactly! ::

Exactly. One hour of his time=100 hours of yours.

SAME! My dh makes in about 10 hours what I make in a full week, 60 hours.

[Unregistered]

What's a normal amount of time off??

So my baby just started daycare and the provider said in interview that she doesn't take a lot of time off but I just got the papers and there's 12 holidays (didn't think Black Friday was a holiday but it is at daycare) and 3 weeks vacation and 7 personal days and 7 sick days ... is this normal??

[Josiegirl]

So my baby just started daycare and the provider said in interview that she doesn't take a lot of time off but I just got the papers and there's 12 holidays (didn't think Black Friday was a holiday but it is at daycare) and 3 weeks vacation and 7 personal days and 7 sick days ... is this normal??

What's normal for 1 dc or center may not be normal for another place so that's hard to say. But I am surprised you didn't get that information before you completed your enrollment because for some I can see how that could be a deciding factor.
For myself(in-home dc)I take off 7 holidays(and yes Black Friday is included in that list though it's not technically a holiday but it's a given every year). I don't usually take personal or sick days unless it's an emergency(life happens). As far as vacation time, that can change year to year. The past few years I've taken the week of Christmas and reopened Jan. 2nd. so that actually comprises 2 of the holidays. Occasionally I'll take an extra day during the year to create a long weekend.
Every provider is different. If you're not happy with their rules, either don't enroll(which it doesn't sound like you knew beforehand) or look somewhere else and give notice.
This is a very difficult business from both sides, as far as individual needs, expectations; being a child care provider(as in any provider role it seems) can be a very high burn-out profession and taking care of yourself is extremely important.