Unlicensed Daycare Operator is on State Disability

[Daycare_Mama]

are you kidding me??

Here's the thing - if she is on disability - then she is recieving payments from the state (your tax money) AND she is also receiving child care payments ---- AND (I am sure 99%) she is NOT claiming taxes on her income!!! But - you are!!!!!!!!! And, if she is unlicensed then she should be turned in - there is a REASON she is not licensed - it's not like it's hard to accomplish. She also may not tell the parents that she has a disease - thereby putting these children at risk.......so whata ya do? Turn her in 1) for not being licensed, 2) receiving double income (one without paying taxes) and 3) to possibly protect those children who's families may have no idea. If an inspector comes out - and her house is considered legal for childcare - and her doctor says 'she can work' - then there should not be an issue huh?????
Somtimes we have to stand by our beliefs and covictions - even if it is uncomfortable.
Ms.Sue

You are doing a lot of assuming here. Are you this woman's accountant? Do you do her taxes? You have no idea if she claims this money on her taxes, so you have no place saying this.

Also, there's a difference between legally unlicensed and illegally unlicensed and it depends on the state. Some it's just 1 family..others it's a certain number of kids. I can watch 1 unrelated family in my state without being licensed. This is what I do while I'm getting licensed. I'm unlicensed too. But I claim the income I make on my taxes and give my family my SS# so they can claim the amount they paid me on there's.

And disability does let you work and still receive a payment. They actually WANT you to work.. I get lots of info on this because my daughter receives SSI. If you are an adult and receive disability, they make a big deal about the fact that your disability payment will only be lowered $1 for every $2 you earn outside of it.

You have no right to assume that this woman is operating unlicensed illegally. Nor do you have the right to assume that she doesn't report the money she earns.

Whether she can provide quality care is a whole other issue, but unless you've witnessed or heard an account of her providing unsafe care, you don't have anything. Sure, you can probably call the county you live in and voice your concern, but as long as she's operating under the numbers that are required for unlicensed care, nothing you can do.

[Unregistered]

It was and with me.

[Unregistered]

We Are Talking About Our Children, People!

If the provider in the original post is on disability, she is more than likely not reporting her work to the disability office or telling her doctor whom she claims disability with, which would lead one to believe that she does not report her income to taxes. And irregardless of her situation or anyone that runs a daycare, including myself, there should be consistent and clear oversight and liscensing for one reason-we are talking about our children here, and that is everyone's business.

[Unregistered]

thank you for being concerned

Thank you for posting your concern about these kids potentially being in danger and don't listen to anyone telling you to mind your own business. Your original post was that you were concerned about these kids because the provider told you she's on disability because she has an autoimmune disease that causes her to get really tired. If her disability is preventing her from working a full time job outside her home, then I don't feel she's fit to take care of children during the day with this type of disability. You're not put on disability with anything slight - it's gotta be completely restrictive to the point where you can't work. Anyone with this type of condition isn't fit to watch children, even on a part time basis. I know people with conditions like that who put their kids in daycare full time for the children's safety. In an emergency, the provider may not be able to handle the situation. And, if she gets tired easily, she has probably slept while the kids are in her care - which is a huge danger. I would definately report what she told you both to your state's local daycare licensing agency (anonymously) and would also report her to the state disability agency (anonymously). Both will investigate her. Any center daycare can give you the licensing agency number and any social worker or doctor's office can give you the disability phone number. If she's in compliance with the extra pay allowances, the agency may require her to get a written doctor's evaluation to determine whether she can effectively perform childcare/daycare duties - disability requires that working within the set restrictions as determined in writing by a doctor, so if she's working outside of those, she will lose her disability because it's considered disability fraud. I think everyone here will agree that childcare is one of the most mentally and physically demanding jobs out there and there's very few disabilities that would allow providers to perform to their fullest in an emergency. Just think how guilty you'll feel if you don't say something and something happens to any of those kids while in her care.

[Unregistered]

Personally, unless you have seen "something" that the provider has done wrong, it is none of your business. Living on a disability check is kind of like trying to live on a social security check, it doesn't go far enough.

Did she tell you she was unlicensed, or are you just "assuming". You do not have to be licensed/registered in every state, and many times it depends on the number of children you care for.

I think you need to take into consideration that the parents of the children she is caring for obviously feel she is qualified.

I think too many times people like to make "other people's business" "their business". I don't mean to be blunt, but unless you have proof and have seen it, you have no right to mendle in her private affairs.

Very Well Said!!!!

[dEHmom]

Lets set the facts....

OP
- concerned about children's welfare
- concerned about being on disibility due to autoimmune (what kind?)
- Provider admitted tires easily (so what?)



IS she tired to the point she has to lay down during the day? OR just tired out because of kids by the end of day compared to how she used to be?

IS she putting the children at risk? Or maybe just not playing with them directly as much as she used to?

IS she reporting the income? WHO KNOWS? NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

IF the children truly are your concern, and you think they are in danger, contact the local child care agencies. Ask them if she is doing anything illegal. If she is within legal rights to do what she is doing, and the welfare of the children are not at stake, then they will visit and nothing will happen. If they visit and something is wrong, then they will shut her down!

I agree it's none of your business what she does/earns/claims. BUT I agree that if there is a chance a child is in danger of any sort, if you don't do something about it then it's on your shoulders. SO do what you need to do, if she is operating illegally or engaged in fraud, she will be in trouble for that and the children will be safe. If she is doing things legally, then she will understand that the best interest of the kids is at heart.

[QualiTcare]

i usually mind my own business so i probably wouldn't report anyone regardless...

but if she is on state disability BECAUSE of this "disease" that makes her so tired - then she is getting disability because someone has decided she is unable to work apparently. i can't imagine thinking that taking care of young children would be a job that someone who "gets tired easily" wouldn't find exhausting. it seems to me if she can take care of young children properly then she probably shouldn't be on disability.

people have issues (and rightfully so) with the system being abused. again, i don't know if i'd report this person - i don't know all the facts, but the OP has every right to report someone who it sounds like could be committing fraud without being blasted for it.

[Unregistered]

report the neighbor

If there is ever any question about a child's safety in a day care then yes the day care should be reported. If there is no problem with the license and the state says that she is capable of looking after the children then everything will work out fine. It is ALWAYS better to be safe than sorry. The parents may or may not know of the woman's medical problems, people are not always honest. It isn't a matter of minding your own business, it is about making sure the kids will be ok. Other people may not agree with you, but at the end of the day its about doing what you felt was right. How terrible would you feel if you stood by and did nothing only to find out later that you were right to be concerned because something did happen to one of the kids.

[Unregistered]

Think about what your saying

I receive disability. I have four young children. The government would never take away my children because I get tired easily nor will the government part for daycare so I can sleep. So I take care of my children.

Having a disability does not mean you are unable to take care of kids.

You have no idea if she is claiming this income or not.

Do what you feel you need to do but think before you act.