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  • Dabill
    Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2017
    • 18

    Looking Into Possibilities...

    Hello, I am new here and have some questions! I am interested in starting a family daycare, but only if I can use a separate space. I was considering building an open, non-home like building, but it would be considered a commercial building requiring it to pass the same inspections as a center. That would be costly, so now I'm looking into building an actual home that is only used for daycare. I was told that as long as it's built as a home, it would be considered residential even if I don't live there. I have many questions,but first I am interested in how tax deductions would work in this scenario. Since everything there would be used only for the business, could I deduct 100% of space, utilities, etc? I am located in Minnesota. Any info helps! Thanks!
  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #2
    Originally posted by Dabill
    Hello, I am new here and have some questions! I am interested in starting a family daycare, but only if I can use a separate space. I was considering building an open, non-home like building, but it would be considered a commercial building requiring it to pass the same inspections as a center. That would be costly, so now I'm looking into building an actual home that is only used for daycare. I was told that as long as it's built as a home, it would be considered residential even if I don't live there. I have many questions,but first I am interested in how tax deductions would work in this scenario. Since everything there would be used only for the business, could I deduct 100% of space, utilities, etc? I am located in Minnesota. Any info helps! Thanks!
    Welcome to the forum!

    I am also in Minnesota.
    I also provide care in a house in which I do not live.
    I have operated this way since I opened (mid-90ies)
    I am licensed as family care.

    There are several women that operate this way in my community. One operates FAMILY child care in a commercial building and is licensed as family care (rule #2)

    If you have any questions and I can be of help, don't be shy!

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    • Dabill
      Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 18

      #3
      Thank you in advance for your help! I am mostly interested in how tax deductions work. Are you able to deduct 100% of your daycare homes expenses?

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #4
        Originally posted by Dabill
        Thank you in advance for your help! I am mostly interested in how tax deductions work. Are you able to deduct 100% of your daycare homes expenses?
        Yes, everything is for the business.
        I don’t do my own taxes so I don’t know the complexities of it all but yes every expense is counted.

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        • Dabill
          Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2017
          • 18

          #5
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          Yes, everything is for the business.
          I don’t do my own taxes so I don’t know the complexities of it all but yes every expense is counted.
          Ok.. I'm trying to figure out if I'd be able to make enough income after paying the mortgage, utilities, etc.. after I get started I would like to have my mom work with me, which would be another expense.. I just think it'd be nice to have a separate space and be able to leave your job!

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #6
            Originally posted by Dabill
            Ok.. I'm trying to figure out if I'd be able to make enough income after paying the mortgage, utilities, etc.. after I get started I would like to have my mom work with me, which would be another expense.. I just think it'd be nice to have a separate space and be able to leave your job!
            I make a pretty nice income.
            You are planning well!

            I am licensed for 12-14 and usually have 12
            I don’t take kids once they start school.
            My DH is also self-employed and assists as a second (licensed) caregiver when necessary so I don’t currently have an employee that I have to pay but have in the past.

            If you your area has the need for care options and you can buy/built efficiently you can absolutely turn a good profit.

            Know your area’s needs and create a good business plan.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #7
              You can apply for start up grants to help you get all the required equipment and such too...

              Home | Providers | Grants and Scholarships GRANTS AND SCHOLARSHIPS Whether you are looking to increase your level of education or improve the quality of your program, we have grants and scholarships available to help. Great Start Compensation Support Payment Program Building off the Child Care Stabilization Grant Program, this program will issue monthly payments…

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              • TheMisplacedMidwestMom
                Daycare.com Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 728

                #8
                Just throwing out ideas.... I operate out of the home I live in, but have a completely separate level for daycare. Other than the laundry being located downstairs I don't often go in the daycare area at all when not working. The daycare has its own playroom, kitchen, bathroom, and bedrooms. So I still get a lot of that feeling of leaving work, only my commute is a flight of stairs.
                I know that wasn't your question, but possiby another option to consider if you're looking to buy/build anyway.

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                • Dabill
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheMisplacedMidwestMom
                  Just throwing out ideas.... I operate out of the home I live in, but have a completely separate level for daycare. Other than the laundry being located downstairs I don't often go in the daycare area at all when not working. The daycare has its own playroom, kitchen, bathroom, and bedrooms. So I still get a lot of that feeling of leaving work, only my commute is a flight of stairs.
                  I know that wasn't your question, but possiby another option to consider if you're looking to buy/build anyway.
                  This is something I've strongly considered. I just have trouble thinking of a floor plan that I would like!

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                  • Dabill
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 18

                    #10
                    how does it work if I have my own kids.. say I buy toys that are only for daycare use, but my kids will be at daycare with me obviously.. so if they only play with them during daycare hours can I count these toys as 100% business? or because my own kids touch a toy does it make it not 100% business, even though my kids are counted in the ratio and everything?

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dabill
                      how does it work if I have my own kids.. say I buy toys that are only for daycare use, but my kids will be at daycare with me obviously.. so if they only play with them during daycare hours can I count these toys as 100% business? or because my own kids touch a toy does it make it not 100% business, even though my kids are counted in the ratio and everything?
                      Any toys you purchase specifically for child care are 100% deductible. If your child plays with the toys outside of care then you would use T/S% but if your child is only allowed to play with them during daycare they are daycare toys and 100% deductible. Your child(ren) are daycare children during daycare hours.

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                      • Dabill
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 18

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31
                        Any toys you purchase specifically for child care are 100% deductible. If your child plays with the toys outside of care then you would use T/S% but if your child is only allowed to play with them during daycare they are daycare toys and 100% deductible. Your child(ren) are daycare children during daycare hours.
                        Thank you!! You are so helpful. I really appreciate it!

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