Does Anyone Know Anything About Gag Reflux?

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  • Crystal
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 4002

    #16
    Originally posted by bice99
    Okay Ladies - let's make sure everyone is talking about the same thing. GR is gastric reflux, totally different than a gag reflex. When you google things, be careful. It might help you make a more informed decision.
    Curious as to why you quoted my post and made it sound like I am an idiot or something? I didn't google anything....I based my answer on my personal experiences AND that the OP said the child has REFLUX....not REFLEX. I figured is was the first word that was misstated "gag" intead of "gastric"

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    • daycare
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      • Feb 2011
      • 16259

      #17
      oh no.....ok it's nothing to do with gastric.
      Its gag reflux.............

      but then again I don't know a thing about it other than it causes me to clean up a lot of darn puke..

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      • Crystal
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 4002

        #18
        Considering the timing of the vomit, it's quite possible that it is Gastric Reflux, or Acid Reflux. That would explain her not always gagging on the actual food (which would indicate a "reflex" to the food) and vomiting later, when it has been partially digested and then comes back up. Maybe ask Mom for more clarification from a Doctor?

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        • wdmmom
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          • Mar 2011
          • 2713

          #19
          My daughter is almost 7 and weighs 52 lbs!

          This child is clearly getting too much to eat.

          She's probably on a very high carb/salt/sugar diet. AKA...the nugget diet.

          I would ask her if she's hungry and offer her small amounts of food at a time if she is.

          If she's not hungry, don't have her eat. It'll just be a mess for you to clean.

          If DCG has caused extensive damage/staining to your carpet, I would definitely suggest talking to DCP's about paying for the cost to rent a Rug Doctor or contributing to the expense of hiring a commercial company.

          I would also change policy to if she gets sick once, she goes home.

          If possible, I would leave a couple small trash cans around so if she's feeling the urge, she can learn to use a bucket.

          Anyone that is going to vomit can feel it coming on before it does...she needs to learn where she can and can't get sick.

          Further cleaning or cost of a new vacuum should solely be on the parents.

          GR is treatable. Is she has a doctors note, ask for the parents to have the doctor provide a care plan as well. (Example: Antacid, medication for acid reflux, etc.)

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          • daycare
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            • Feb 2011
            • 16259

            #20
            Originally posted by wdmmom
            My daughter is almost 7 and weighs 52 lbs!

            This child is clearly getting too much to eat.

            She's probably on a very high carb/salt/sugar diet. AKA...the nugget diet.

            I would ask her if she's hungry and offer her small amounts of food at a time if she is.

            If she's not hungry, don't have her eat. It'll just be a mess for you to clean.

            If DCG has caused extensive damage/staining to your carpet, I would definitely suggest talking to DCP's about paying for the cost to rent a Rug Doctor or contributing to the expense of hiring a commercial company.

            I would also change policy to if she gets sick once, she goes home.

            If possible, I would leave a couple small trash cans around so if she's feeling the urge, she can learn to use a bucket.

            Anyone that is going to vomit can feel it coming on before it does...she needs to learn where she can and can't get sick.

            Further cleaning or cost of a new vacuum should solely be on the parents.

            GR is treatable. Is she has a doctors note, ask for the parents to have the doctor provide a care plan as well. (Example: Antacid, medication for acid reflux, etc.)
            I think that you and I are on the same page about the diet. The child wears the pants at home and I hardly ever hear of her eating anything healthy. Like i posted in one of my other post, she came here and threw up an entire bag of chips one time. Gross

            As for the carpet cleaning, I did rent a carpet cleaner and celaned it and did not charge the family. However, in the past the mom did offer to pay for some cleaning supplies, but I declined the offer... Little did I know back then that this would he such an ongoing thing.....

            So gag reflux is treatable??

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            • laundrymom
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4177

              #21
              I think this is confusing thread because its gag reflex,.. or gastric reflux,... not gag reflux.

              Gastric Reflux is treatable with diet and/or medicine

              Gag Reflex is treatable with texture/temperature modification.

              My personal advice would be for you to ask mom to clarify "which" the doctor has DX her with. I would also require a food diary to be kept with type, amount, and time each food was given.

              You have to learn WHAT sets her body off before you can fix it. Did she do a swallow test at doc? or is doc going off moms word of symptoms for diagnosis?


              What does the note say you were given from doc? if it says "gag reflux" I would call to clarify, asking them what that is because you have researched and found gag reflex and gastric reflux. Both similar but not the same.

              Its like saying, she has an infection in her ear, and the doc giving antibiotics, and come to find out her earring hole is infected. the same thing but different.

              And I dont think anyone said or inferred anyone else was an idiot,... the english language is MADE to screw up and confuse people. I mean,... Knew new to two too, effect affect,.... not to mention some words are just spelled the wrong way. ... Knee, Phone, pterodactyl, . Some words are spelled almost like they are teasing you into messing them up, Actually, Fiery, foreign, license, . some things are just ,.. well a pain in the rear. ...

              Keep us updated on this situation ok?



              Originally posted by daycare
              I think that you and I are on the same page about the diet. The child wears the pants at home and I hardly ever hear of her eating anything healthy. Like i posted in one of my other post, she came here and threw up an entire bag of chips one time. Gross

              As for the carpet cleaning, I did rent a carpet cleaner and celaned it and did not charge the family. However, in the past the mom did offer to pay for some cleaning supplies, but I declined the offer... Little did I know back then that this would he such an ongoing thing.....

              So gag reflux is treatable??

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              • daycare
                Advanced Daycare.com *********
                • Feb 2011
                • 16259

                #22
                Originally posted by laundrymom
                I think this is confusing thread because its gag reflex,.. or gastric reflux,... not gag reflux.

                Gastric Reflux is treatable with diet and/or medicine

                Gag Reflex is treatable with texture/temperature modification.

                My personal advice would be for you to ask mom to clarify "which" the doctor has DX her with. I would also require a food diary to be kept with type, amount, and time each food was given.

                You have to learn WHAT sets her body off before you can fix it. Did she do a swallow test at doc? or is doc going off moms word of symptoms for diagnosis?


                What does the note say you were given from doc? if it says "gag reflux" I would call to clarify, asking them what that is because you have researched and found gag reflex and gastric reflux. Both similar but not the same.

                Its like saying, she has an infection in her ear, and the doc giving antibiotics, and come to find out her earring hole is infected. the same thing but different.

                And I dont think anyone said or inferred anyone else was an idiot,... the english language is MADE to screw up and confuse people. I mean,... Knew new to two too, effect affect,.... not to mention some words are just spelled the wrong way. ... Knee, Phone, pterodactyl, . Some words are spelled almost like they are teasing you into messing them up, Actually, Fiery, foreign, license, . some things are just ,.. well a pain in the rear. ...

                Keep us updated on this situation ok?
                thanks for clearing this up... like I said I don't know anything about it, other than I get to clean up a ton of puke.


                You have to learn WHAT sets her body off before you can fix it. Did she do a swallow test at doc? or is doc going off moms word of symptoms for diagnosis?
                I am banking on that mom told the doctor the girl has gag and the doctor agreed based on what mom told him.
                I told the mom the only way that DCG could come back is if she had a doc note stating exactly what was wrong, otherwise one vomit and child is going home. I was not willing to take the moms word for it. The mom came back the next day with note in hand..

                I have stopped talking with the parents about this situation because it went NO WHERE. Then all of a sudden the episodes stopped for awhile (about a month or so) then they came back full force.

                I did keep a log of all of the meals that she ate for almost two weeks and asked the mom to do the same. She took it with her to the doctors, but they could find nothing. Stuff she ate here she vomited on, she also ate at home, but did not.....so confusing
                Last edited by daycare; 09-09-2011, 01:09 PM.

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                • wdmmom
                  Advanced Daycare.com
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2713

                  #23
                  I would definitely be asking DCP's to consult DCG's doctor and get a care plan drawn up. The doctor may have just given DCM a note to suffice you. Don't fall for it. You need a diagnosis and a care plan for this child to continue and that is what I'd tell DCP's.

                  I'd be willing to bet the doctor isn't near as aware of the situation. I'd like to think if my child had a problem like this that her pediatrician would be doing an ultrasound on her throat, allergy tests, providing me with a medicine that might work...something!!!!

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                  • daycare
                    Advanced Daycare.com *********
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 16259

                    #24
                    Originally posted by wdmmom
                    I would definitely be asking DCP's to consult DCG's doctor and get a care plan drawn up. The doctor may have just given DCM a note to suffice you. Don't fall for it. You need a diagnosis and a care plan for this child to continue and that is what I'd tell DCP's.

                    I'd be willing to bet the doctor isn't near as aware of the situation. I'd like to think if my child had a problem like this that her pediatrician would be doing an ultrasound on her throat, allergy tests, providing me with a medicine that might work...something!!!!
                    These parents are unusual. This I the same girl that had the really bad toe infection that caused her to scream cry. They told her to get over it.
                    I said you can't bring her back until I know she has been seen by a doctors. The parents were pissed but then when the doc told them the child had an infection and was put on antibiotics they all of a sudden cared.

                    Trust me if this were my child I would be doing the same as you listed. Ugh stinks when I have no control over helping this get better.

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