Naughty Mat?

[squareone]

I just finished close to 16 hours of "Discipline and Punishment in the Childcare Environment" training this week. I am required to "sugar coat" punishment, now. "Ignore bad behaviors whenever possible"...yep, you heard it correctly.

Mine get calmly "redirected" to the "soft seating area" to "calm down". It is all a vocabulary lesson...:::: "Time-Out" is a bad word and is not to be used at all with children under 3, here.

Funny how it is exactly the same procedure as Time-out, but with softer terminology. :confused:

We are required to sugar coat discipline too. I think that technically, we can still use te term time-out but I don't anymore.

[Blackcat31]

I just finished close to 16 hours of "Discipline and Punishment in the Childcare Environment" training this week. I am required to "sugar coat" punishment, now. "Ignore bad behaviors whenever possible"...yep, you heard it correctly.

Mine get calmly "redirected" to the "soft seating area" to "calm down". It is all a vocabulary lesson...:::: "Time-Out" is a bad word and is not to be used at all with children under 3, here.

Funny how it is exactly the same procedure as Time-out, but with softer terminology. :confused:

IMHO, The trick is to look bored with the procedure, not irritated or frustrated. If they get a rise out of you, they win that round. Also, watch for the predictable patterns of escalation that lead to misbehavior. Stop it BEFORE it happens because it is so much calmer that way.
I do rearrange the room often, have multiples of everything out and rotate toys to minimize problems that arise when kids are bored. I have done that for years and am glad to see that is in the current training. That actually works in real life.

I just took a class that wasn't required for my Bachelor's in ECE, but I used it as an elective course. It was called Behavior Management in ECE Settings and the biggest thing they stressed was that every behavior has an antecedent and figuring out what that is will cure almost every bad behavior you see.

I honestly think that is the trick to making things go smoothly. Anything else is just fluff. You have to be aware of what is causing or leading up to the behavior in order to stop, curb or cure it.

[Cat Herder]

I just took a class that wasn't required for my Bachelor's in ECE, but I used it as an elective course. It was called Behavior Management in ECE Settings and the biggest thing they stressed was that every behavior has an antecedent and figuring out what that is will cure almost every bad behavior you see.

I honestly think that is the trick to making things go smoothly. Anything else is just fluff. You have to be aware of what is causing or leading up to the behavior in order to stop, curb or cure it.

Funny...I am signed up for that one tomorrow along with " Encouraging Parental Involvement" and "Rewarding Positive Behaviors".

I guess we are working up to "Let it be"......Come on sing it with me now....

"Good Morning, Let it Be Childcare.... Will it be your way or mine today?"

[familyschoolcare]

So A thought occurred to me why does the mat need a special name? Why not just call it the Blue mat or what ever color it is?

[Mom_of_two]

Yeah, mine is just 'The Corner' .

[blueclouds29]

So A thought occurred to me why does the mat need a special name? Why not just call it the Blue mat or what ever color it is?

This is so true! Good thinking!

[countrymom]

Yeah, mine is just 'The Corner' .

yup, thats what mine is called and you must stand in the corner with your nose in it. Yesterday I had a almost 3 yr old not want to share his playdoh so he threw himself on the floor and started kicking his feet and banging his hands, so I picked him up and told him we dont' do this in my house and marched his butt in the corner and when he was done screaming he can join us. I have a mat that is by the door and you can't leave it till I let you.

[nannyde]

I just took a class that wasn't required for my Bachelor's in ECE, but I used it as an elective course. It was called Behavior Management in ECE Settings and the biggest thing they stressed was that every behavior has an antecedent and figuring out what that is will cure almost every bad behavior you see.

I honestly think that is the trick to making things go smoothly. Anything else is just fluff. You have to be aware of what is causing or leading up to the behavior in order to stop, curb or cure it.

That's true. I call it pre-behavior.

The common issue is that even knowing what the behaviors are that lead to worse behavior....

you have to SEE it which means proximal visual supervision

AND

You have to correct it at THAT level which still means a NO.

Where providers have issues is that they are physically not in the same room with all the kids all the time during play and they aren't willing or don't see the value in doing the minor corrections.

Where it really gets muddled is when the provider has their own kids in the room. The prebehavior marker (antecedent) are normally things that are allowed with their own kids.

Things that are escalating behaviors like repeated setting off of toys, toys over the shoulder, running two handed behind cars, circling etc... are normally allowed at home with their own kids who free range the house and don't NEED/have the level of supervision day care kids need/have.

[Unregistered]

Things that are escalating behaviors like repeated setting off of toys, toys over the shoulder, running two handed behind cars, circling etc... are normally allowed at home with their own kids who free range the house and don't NEED/have the level of supervision day care kids need/have.

What? I do not understand this at all?

[Sugar Magnolia]

Seriously, parents and providers need to quit sugar coating the whole discipline thing. Sugar coating is is exactly why these kids act the way they do, they literally get away with things.

This morning at drop off, I had a 25 mo old throwing a fit for his mom, he actually hit her 2 times on the back, hard, while she was holding him, she cracked him on the butt, he hit her again.....she cracked him again. Then sat him down on "time out"....ha ha. I am glad she finally acted on hihs horrible behavior....just she needed to lower the crack on the butt a few inches so he could really feel it, as cracking on the diaper has very little effect.

Mac, I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. Why would you let a parent "crack" this child while inside your daycare? I'm sure the kid is a discipline problem, and I'm sure mom is frustrated, but why let a parent strike a child in YOUR home? Don't you think his little brain will associate being in your time-out zone with a "cracking"? I had to tell a mom once she couldn't scream at her child while in my center, because we don't scream here. I would totally flip if I saw this mother actually hit the child in front of me. Sorry, don't take it personally, but I seriously would NOT allow this. Just my opinion. A crack on the diaper is hitting. Hand of parent on butt of child is hitting. I would have warned this mom to not do that as the "no hitting" rule applies to parents as well.

[cheerfuldom]

We have a chill-out chair. Just my thought but most of the time the crazy behavior (non-aggressive) is solved if the kiddo is separated for a moment and sort of re-starts back into the group. Now my middle daughter gets a "chill out room" because she is the tantrum thrower of the bunch but for the rest, the chair works. i dont have to use this too much though because preventative measures solve a lot of stuff.

[Sugar Magnolia]

We have a chill-out chair. Just my thought but most of the time the crazy behavior (non-aggressive) is solved if the kiddo is separated for a moment and sort of re-starts back into the group. Now my middle daughter gets a "chill out room" because she is the tantrum thrower of the bunch but for the rest, the chair works. i dont have to use this too much though because preventative measures solve a lot of stuff.

Great minds think alike Cheerful! We have the "quiet zone" where anyone can go anytime they need a break. The exact same area is called "the cooler" when a child is asked to visit it because they need to chill out. The exact same area is simply called "go sit down" if they get aggresive. But yes, ultimately, prevention is the best medicine! If I see/hear trouble brewing, I'll say "oh no I see/hear a sad/angry faces/voices. Come talk to me about it."

[nannyde]

What? I do not understand this at all?

https://www.daycare.com/nannyde/there-is-no-correct-way-to-play-with-any-toy.htm?replytocom=71#respond

[sharlan]

yup, thats what mine is called and you must stand in the corner with your nose in it. Yesterday I had a almost 3 yr old not want to share his playdoh so he threw himself on the floor and started kicking his feet and banging his hands, so I picked him up and told him we dont' do this in my house and marched his butt in the corner and when he was done screaming he can join us. I have a mat that is by the door and you can't leave it till I let you.

Not in CA.

Having 2 boys, I have 2 chairs. When #2 (3) starts acting out, I tell him he needs to go sit in his "special chair". Somedays, he'll even tell me that he's going to go sit in his special chair to rest for awhile.

[familyschoolcare]

Not in CA.

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