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  • MichellesKiddos
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 68

    Need Help With DCP

    Ok, so I've already posted before about this dcg who is now 7 months old (the old post was about her only coming a total of 5 times the entire month and she cries the whole time she is here). Anyways, the past two weeks, dcm drops her off on days that she doesn't even have on the schedule (the first time she did it I didn't have any other kids that morning and she dropped her off at 6:15am..needless to say she sounded the 'dog' alarm when she knocked on the door! The second time being today, she dropped her off this morning at 6:15 again and AGAIN I didn't have her on the schedule). When she dropped her off this morning, dcm says they are switching her to half whole milk and half formula to save money. I told her that she really needs to have more formula until she is 1 because she needs the nutrients from it and suggested they switch to a cheaper brand of formula. She said no to me like it was some unheard of suggestion :confused: I used both similac and parents choice..both seem just fine to me! They wouldn't have it on the market if it didn't meet the needs of the child right?! I refuse to switch her to whole milk when she is only 7 months old...just don't know how to say that to dcm. On top of the schedule issues it really has not been a great start to my day
  • AnneCordelia
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 816

    #2
    7mo on milk? Parents Choice formula is superior in nutrition to cows milk for a 7mo. Could you ask her to discuss this dietary change with her doctor? Perhaps you could ask for a 'doctors note' just to get her into her Drs office to discuss this? At this age milk is so much of their diet.

    I think that having her come two days early and without being on the schedule only happened twice because you allowed it to happen once. Did you make a big deal about it? I might have taken her if I had the space, but I would make a big deal about it being a one-time thing because she didn't know the rules. I would make a big deal about her not being scheduled, and therefore I have made other plans for the group today. I would make sure she knew to call first and not show up unexpected. Whew! That's nuts to just show up at someone's house at that time of day without being expected! That's nervy, IMO. I'm sorry. Does she just not seem to understand how it works?

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    • Auntie
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 181

      #3
      Regarding her dropping off on a NONE schedualed day can you say oh I am sorry I don't have her on the schedual and I am full today. Even though you are not this may be what she needs to realize that this is just not cool to do.

      Regarding her and the milk and formula ordeal, that is tough. I never took my child off of formula until a year. Also, know of people who only used formula for a few months then switched to whole milk this child is NOW on Soy milk because he can't tolerate regular milk he would keep throwing it up. He is 2.
      So you could maybe let her know of the dangers to giving milk too early. :confused:
      Could you say as a liscenced provider I am reguired by law to give formula up to a year. ???? :confused: Maybe do some research on the early introduction to milk and see what comes up and give her this information.
      I take it the parent DOES NOT provide formula for the child while in your care you provide that.
      I am kind of torn in regards to this. It seems that this is just another irritant that this parent is tossing in your direction. I guess I would just do as the parent says regarding feeding their child and have her sign a form stating that this is what she wants done so she can't come back to you after the dr tells her this is wrong and this is why her child has now developed milk allergies. I would hate for you to be thrown under the bus. Maybe call it a change in feeding instructions. Have mom fill out how she wants the bottles prepared and sign and date the form. :confused::confused:

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      • MichellesKiddos
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 68

        #4
        I don't think she is completely aware of how the whole daycare thing work..but I gave her my handbook and they signed the contract. I need to let her know that #1. today was their second and final offense..should it happen again I will not take her. and #2. I will not give her whole milk to replace her formula, period. My problem is that I need to get a backbone. Even though they are inconveniencing me by bringing the child on an unscheduled day, I can't just turn them away at the door when they have to go to work. UGH! I think I'll end up typing up a letter to send home...don't think it will be possible for me to say all of it to her face..especially with how ticked off I am about it right now.

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        • wdmmom
          Advanced Daycare.com
          • Mar 2011
          • 2713

          #5
          I would hand a probation letter to DCM at pick up. Tell her that you play the "3 strikes, You're out" game and she's at 2 and explain why.

          As for milk at 7 months...without a doctors note, there's no way I would do it. I don't want to be responsible for messing up that babies tummy, gi tract, and intestines! Without a written note from the doctor stating the child's diet, tell her that you have no other alternative but to give solely formula. If she's not providing it and you need to, tell her the rate will be an additional $10 a day.

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          • MichellesKiddos
            Daycare.com Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 68

            #6
            Originally posted by wdmmom
            I would hand a probation letter to DCM at pick up. Tell her that you play the "3 strikes, You're out" game and she's at 2 and explain why.

            As for milk at 7 months...without a doctors note, there's no way I would do it. I don't want to be responsible for messing up that babies tummy, gi tract, and intestines! Without a written note from the doctor stating the child's diet, tell her that you have no other alternative but to give solely formula. If she's not providing it and you need to, tell her the rate will be an additional $10 a day.
            I like this idea. Currently, they are providing the formula and I'm not sure if they would go so far as to say they aren't going to bring it anymore if I say I'm not giving her whole milk...I guess we'll find out! Also, I forgot to mention that they are not bringing baby food AT ALL for her..and they are supposed to be providing it. They claim she doesn't like it..but she eats it just fine for me when I give it to her. She told me today that I can just give her what the other kids are having for lunch...wtf?!?! Seriously?:confused:

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            • Maddy'sMommy
              Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 158

              #7
              I use Parent's Choice and it's fine, and an inexpensive alternative to the brand name formulas. Baby formula is pretty regulated (at least where I am, you don't need to buy the most expensive one)

              I have an 11.5 month DCG who is switching to milk this week, only so they can get her on the new stuff before they leave on vacay, incase there are any issues.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #8
                Originally posted by MichellesKiddos
                I like this idea. Currently, they are providing the formula and I'm not sure if they would go so far as to say they aren't going to bring it anymore if I say I'm not giving her whole milk...I guess we'll find out! Also, I forgot to mention that they are not bringing baby food AT ALL for her..and they are supposed to be providing it. They claim she doesn't like it..but she eats it just fine for me when I give it to her. She told me today that I can just give her what the other kids are having for lunch...wtf?!?! Seriously?:confused:
                I would supply the formula and the baby food and then attach it to their bill. If mom doesn't want to pay you for it, then she should be bringing it herself if that is what she agreed to when she enrolled. If you are on a USDA food program, providers are required to offer at least one type of formula to infants. The food program also does not allow a 7 month old to be feed cow's milk unless accompanied by a doctor's note or special diet statement.

                Another option is to simply call the mom when lunch time nears and have her pick up her child since they didnt bring lunch for her.

                If you continue to accommodate her "unscheduled" lifestyle, this mom will just continue to take advantage of you because she can...

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                • Meyou
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2734

                  #9
                  There is no way in heck I would give a 7 month old whole milk unless they gave me a doctors note with a diagnosis which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist in this situation. It's not safe IMO to switch them that early. Their little bodies can't tolerate cow's milk that early.

                  As for the early drop offs they KNEW they were going to work since they knew to set an alarm to get up and have their dd to you by 6:15. Therefore they chose to disrespect you and not call. I would turn them away next time and blame your numbers even if you have space. It would be easier to just tell them it's not acceptable but if you want to avoid conflict turning them away might be easier. Or just don't answer the door and when they call say they aren't scheduled.

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                  • Meyou
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2734

                    #10
                    I just read the rest of the posts and she wants the baby eating table food? She sounds like she doesn't have a sweet clue. I don't give solids at all until 8 months. :|

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                    • MichellesKiddos
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 68

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Meyou
                      I just read the rest of the posts and she wants the baby eating table food? She sounds like she doesn't have a sweet clue. I don't give solids at all until 8 months. :|
                      You got it! She brought a little bowl of canned peas and nothing for breakfast telling me that she can just eat what ever the kids are having...at that point I was still reeling from her even dropping her off and then telling me she is doing half and half with whole milk and then switching her off completely soon.

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                      • Angelwings36
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 436

                        #12
                        I had a friend of mine that completely switched her 5 month old daughter from formula to whole milk, she said she had done the same with her son as well (he is 4 now). I was completely floored. I'm pretty sure it was a 'money' thing for her.

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                        • Meyou
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2734

                          #13
                          When my oldest dd was a baby my aunt told me to mix Carnation instant milk with an infant multivitamin and give that to her instead of formula. That was 12 years ago but I heard her tell the same thing to her pregnant daughter the other day. She said formula was a scam and it was just canned milk with a bit of vitamin throw in.

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                          • cheerfuldom
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 7413

                            #14
                            yes you can turn her away at the door. she is holding you hostage by using the "I have to work, we can't afford formula, blah blah blah" and laying her problems on you. If she needed you she should have scheduled you, period. You are letting her walk all over you. I personally would not feed a 7 month old whole milk and big kid food. Thats a deal breaker for me and they can just find some other ****er to do their bidding, ain't gonna happen here

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                            • MichellesKiddos
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 68

                              #15
                              Thanks so much for all your input! So I'm going to hand her a letter at pick up regarding these issues, just not really sure how to word it exactly. Any ideas?

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