Chuckling At Neighbor

[sharlan]

Fire arms and ammo. The problem was in the wording locked and stored separately. My hubby is in the navy reserves and we know that the wording locked and stored separate when transporting them in a car, can mean that everything is in one bag fire arms and ammo and the ammo is in a locked box and then the bag is locked. The lic. Rep. tried to tell me that putting the ammo boxes in a separate locked box, (with it own key that was stored in a separate room, and not labeled) inside the big heavy duty safe with the fire arms was not good enough. She wanted me to place the ammo boxes which could be opened with an ax (the safe can not) in a separate room.

I asked her to see the actual regs. and not just the high lighted version because I actually wanted to see it if it had been worded in a manner that she was right I would have done as ask. Even though in my opinion that would have meant the children where less safe. I could not find the actual regs. on this matter and believe me I looked all over the web cite looking for them. I think she did not know where they where either.

This is all it says regarding fire arms and ammo.............

(4) Poisons, detergents, cleaning compounds, medicines, firearms and other items which could pose
a danger if readily available to children shall be stored where they are inaccessible to children.
(A) Storage areas for poisons, firearms and other dangerous weapons shall be locked.
(B) In lieu of locked storage of firearms, the licensee may use trigger locks or remove the
firing pin.
1. Firing pins shall be stored and locked separately from firearms.
(C) Ammunition shall be stored and locked separately from firearms.
CALIFORNIA-DSS-

[e.j.]

off topic but MAC...do you have an exercise ball by any chance? if you do you should look into some of the exercises that therapists do with kids on those its cool and it could help your special needs child

Just wanted to say we used an exercise ball with my son; he loved it!!!

He always looked forward to the excercises we would do with him and as he grew older, he used it by himself as a chair which was great for building up his muscles and for increasing stability and balance.

He also used to bring it outside and as he bounced on it, he would spin it so it would move forward, almost like riding in a wheelchair. He got so good at it that he could move on the ball as quickly and easily as he could if he were walking or running.

At 20, he still prefers to sit on one of those balls instead of a chair. He has one in his room and sits on it when he plays video games.

[Country Kids]

The problem is I do not know and apparently my lic. rep does not either what the regs says. She was only able to pull up "High lights of regs." which say locked and stored separately they are stored in separate containers and every thing has it own lock. I forgot to mention that the fire arms are unloaded and all of them either have the fire pin pulled out or have a gun lock on them I just do not have another place in my house to put the ammo boxes that I know that a strong determined teen-aged boy ( I have three) could not get at it. If I have to I will pull the ammo boxes out of the safe and place them under my bed. Just do not see how that makes any one in the house safer.

I have teenagers also. They actually have no idea where ourrearms are stored or the ammunition is kept. I never did it to hide it from them but to satisfy the regs. When I showed my liscensor she saw what it took to get to them and said she would have never guessed to look there for a firearm. If I had teenagers and I couldn't trust them then I wouldn't have the firearms in my home. My children know we have firearms but never badger us or ask us where they are.

[erinalexmom]

Just wanted to say we used an exercise ball with my son; he loved it!!!

He always looked forward to the excercises we would do with him and as he grew older, he used it by himself as a chair which was great for building up his muscles and for increasing stability and balance.

He also used to bring it outside and as he bounced on it, he would spin it so it would move forward, almost like riding in a wheelchair. He got so good at it that he could move on the ball as quickly and easily as he could if he were walking or running.

At 20, he still prefers to sit on one of those balls instead of a chair. He has one in his room and sits on it when he plays video games.

Thanks EJ yes they are wonderful for working your core which is one problem with special needs kids sometimes. I see the therapists use them all the time. I think they are awsome

[familyschoolcare]

This is all it says regarding fire arms and ammo.............

(4) Poisons, detergents, cleaning compounds, medicines, firearms and other items which could pose
a danger if readily available to children shall be stored where they are inaccessible to children.
(A) Storage areas for poisons, firearms and other dangerous weapons shall be locked.
(B) In lieu of locked storage of firearms, the licensee may use trigger locks or remove the
firing pin.
1. Firing pins shall be stored and locked separately from firearms.
(C) Ammunition shall be stored and locked separately from firearms.
CALIFORNIA-DSS-

Thank you where did you get this I could not find it and like I posted earlier I tried to find it.

[sharlan]

Thank you where did you get this I could not find it and like I posted earlier I tried to find it.

CALIFORNIA-DSS-MANUAL-CCL
MANUAL LETTER NO. CCL-97-15 Effective 11/5/97
Page 38


So many gray areas open to interpretation.

[familyschoolcare]

CALIFORNIA-DSS-MANUAL-CCL
MANUAL LETTER NO. CCL-97-15 Effective 11/5/97
Page 38


So many gray areas open to interpretation.

alright so how doe one get one of those that is not what is on the web cite.

[sharlan]

alright so how does one get one of those that is not what is on the web site.

http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/ord/PG296.htm

[familyschoolcare]

http://www.dss.cahwnet.gov/ord/PG296.htm

thank you