Chuckling At Neighbor

[erinalexmom]

off topic but MAC...do you have an exercise ball by any chance? if you do you should look into some of the exercises that therapists do with kids on those its cool and it could help your special needs child

[mac60]

no I don't.

[sharlan]

Yes, ask to see it in writing and the actual reg not the high lighted version.

During my initial inspection their was a question regarding how I store certain things. I told my lic. rep. that I was told at orientation that this way was allowed. She pulled out the high light regs. I said in other situation that is interpreted to mean that my way of storing is allowed, can I please see the actual regs. and also how are the children safer your way than mine. She then said fine but if they come and check on me there might be a problem.

What were you storing, how were you doing it, and what did they want it done?

I put the magnetic tot locks on all cabinets. For my downstairs shower (niece's), I put 2 refrigerator locks on the shower doors and the guy accepted them. He had a fit over the staircase not having a gate because kids had access when being brought in in the mornings.

[Childminder]

For those veteran providers-20+ years what in the world did you guys do back then before all these were invented or used. Where babies just laid down on the ground with a blanket or something. My oldest daughter 18 had a bouncer/then a walker but we did't have a pnp or a playpen even but she wasn't in a childcare till she was 2. She also was my only one so what did everyone in childcare do?

I had walkers and swings and jumperoos in the 60's when I started childcare. Granted some have been improved greatly and some have been eliminated because of safety issues. Walkers were changed or taken off the market because too many children were tipping over or falling down the stairs. Playpens were wood, like a crib but low to the ground and were changed to the cloth and net ones to make them lighter and more transportable. You should have seen us folding up the wood ones and putting them in a trunk. The trunks were as big as a car is now but the play pens sure were heavy. The jumperoo I had for 30 years and see virtually no difference.

The state steps in and tells us what to use because a few people have abused or unwisely utilized certain items and accidents or deaths have occurred. Common sense is something that is lacking in some people and whether or not they are a provider is irrelevant.

[Crystal]

What were you storing, how were you doing it, and what did they want it done?

I put the magnetic tot locks on all cabinets. For my downstairs shower (niece's), I put 2 refrigerator locks on the shower doors and the guy accepted them. He had a fit over the staircase not having a gate because kids had access when being brought in in the mornings.

I'm not surprised at all about the stairs. The reg is if you care for children under 5 all stairs must be gated.

[nannyde]

I had walkers and swings and jumperoos in the 60's when I started childcare. Granted some have been improved greatly and some have been eliminated because of safety issues. Walkers were changed or taken off the market because too many children were tipping over or falling down the stairs. Playpens were wood, like a crib but low to the ground and were changed to the cloth and net ones to make them lighter and more transportable. You should have seen us folding up the wood ones and putting them in a trunk. The trunks were as big as a car is now but the play pens sure were heavy. The jumperoo I had for 30 years and see virtually no difference.

The state steps in and tells us what to use because a few people have abused or unwisely utilized certain items and accidents or deaths have occurred. Common sense is something that is lacking in some people and whether or not they are a provider is irrelevant.

Do you remember the graco play yard that was fold up from the middle? It had a heavy duty mattress pad that was wooden on one side and then cushion on the other and fit flush up to the netting. That was an amazing piece of equipment. Dummy me gave mine away because it took up too much space. You could lift up the mattress and in one yank it was halfed. It had v collapsing railing on the wide side of it.

[Crystal]

Do you remember the graco play yard that was fold up from the middle? It had a heavy duty mattress pad that was wooden on one side and then cushion on the other and fit flush up to the netting. That was an amazing piece of equipment. Dummy me gave mine away because it took up too much space. You could lift up the mattress and in one yank it was halfed. It had v collapsing railing on the wide side of it.

I remember those....my aunt had one and my Mom had one for the grandbabies. Old school equipment is defintiely much better built than the newer stuff, but then they found reasons for recalls on most of that stuff too.....

[nannyde]

I remember those....my aunt had one and my Mom had one for the grandbabies. Old school equipment is defintiely much better built than the newer stuff, but then they found reasons for recalls on most of that stuff too.....

The V collapsing rail... should not be used in child care.

that's why I love the Jmasons. Everything is built on tension with only horizontal and vertical continuous bars.

One of the main problems with the playpens and cribs now is the inside depth is so shallow. I think we are going to see a huge rise in head injuries from little ones who can pull to stand flying out of them head first. Especially the ones that are sat on four legged pedistals.

[mom2many]

That's my problem with CA. It is such a big state and it seems like everyone does it their way when it comes to licensing.

Each inspector has their own pet peeve that they go after. Things that upset one, doesn't even faze the next one.

So true! When I had my last debate with licensing over the regs here in CA, the supervisor actually admitted each county can't even agree on how to interpret them! :confused:

[sharlan]

I'm not surprised at all about the stairs. The reg is if you care for children under 5 all stairs must be gated.

My house was licensed without the stairs being gated. I have gates in the family room blocking preventing access to the stairs. I also have a gate in the hallway blocking off access to the diningroom, blocking off access. That area is off limits to daycare kids other than they have to walk past the staircase to get to the bathroom and to get to the front door.

It was a bit of a hassle to find a gate that would work, but I found one.

[Crystal]

My house was licensed without the stairs being gated. I have gates in the family room blocking preventing access to the stairs. I also have a gate in the hallway blocking off access to the diningroom, blocking off access. That area is off limits to daycare kids other than they have to walk past the staircase to get to the bathroom and to get to the front door.

It was a bit of a hassle to find a gate that would work, but I found one.

I am totally surprised that they licensed it that way, as regs clearly state any FCC serving children under five must have a gate on stairs.....it's one of the actually written regs that cannot be misinterpreted by licensing analysts.....funny how they'll let the real regs slide but make up others as they see fit, huh?! :confused:

[erinalexmom]

no I don't.

My other job is working with special needs kids. If theres ever any way I can help you with ideas for her I would be happy to The high chair thing is a great idea Im glad to see her getting help so young and I bet mom is thankful for you in helping put the plans in place. She's a lucky girl being so loved

[familyschoolcare]

What were you storing, how were you doing it, and what did they want it done?

I put the magnetic tot locks on all cabinets. For my downstairs shower (niece's), I put 2 refrigerator locks on the shower doors and the guy accepted them. He had a fit over the staircase not having a gate because kids had access when being brought in in the mornings.

Fire arms and ammo. The problem was in the wording locked and stored separately. My hubby is in the navy reserves and we know that the wording locked and stored separate when transporting them in a car, can mean that everything is in one bag fire arms and ammo and the ammo is in a locked box and then the bag is locked. The lic. Rep. tried to tell me that putting the ammo boxes in a separate locked box, (with it own key that was stored in a separate room, and not labeled) inside the big heavy duty safe with the fire arms was not good enough. She wanted me to place the ammo boxes which could be opened with an ax (the safe can not) in a separate room.

I asked her to see the actual regs. and not just the high lighted version because I actually wanted to see it if it had been worded in a manner that she was right I would have done as ask. Even though in my opinion that would have meant the children where less safe. I could not find the actual regs. on this matter and believe me I looked all over the web cite looking for them. I think she did not know where they where either.

[Country Kids]

Fire arms and ammo. The problem was in the wording locked and stored separately. My hubby is in the navy reserves and we know that the wording locked and stored separate when transporting them in a car, can mean that everything is in one bag fire arms and ammo and the ammo is in a locked box and then the bag is locked. The lic. Rep. tried to tell me that putting the ammo boxes in a separate locked box, (with it own key that was stored in a separate room, and not labeled) inside the big heavy duty safe with the fire arms was not good enough. She wanted me to place the ammo boxes which could be opened with an ax (the safe can not) in a separate room.

I asked her to see the actual regs. and not just the high lighted version because I actually wanted to see it if it had been worded in a manner that she was right I would have done as ask. Even though in my opinion that would have meant the children where less safe. I could not find the actual regs. on this matter and believe me I looked all over the web cite looking for them. I think she did not know where they where either.

Our regs say-Firearms and ammunition kept under lock. Ammunition stored separately from firearms. Firearms must remain unloaded.

I take this to me they cannot be kept in the same area. We have ours stored in two different rooms.

[familyschoolcare]

Our regs say-Firearms and ammunition kept under lock. Ammunition stored separately from firearms. Firearms must remain unloaded.

I take this to me they cannot be kept in the same area. We have ours stored in two different rooms.

The problem is I do not know and apparently my lic. rep does not either what the regs says. She was only able to pull up "High lights of regs." which say locked and stored separately they are stored in separate containers and every thing has it own lock. I forgot to mention that the fire arms are unloaded and all of them either have the fire pin pulled out or have a gun lock on them I just do not have another place in my house to put the ammo boxes that I know that a strong determined teen-aged boy ( I have three) could not get at it. If I have to I will pull the ammo boxes out of the safe and place them under my bed. Just do not see how that makes any one in the house safer.