Chuckling At Neighbor

[Maddy'sMommy]

I can imagine it's very difficult to manage different age groups without somewhere to sit the baby for a few minutes.

We don't get young babies as often in Canada since Mat leave is 1 year long. I have a couple 11 month olds signed up now, they don't want to be in those things anyways since they can walk now. Even my daughter who is 9 months doesn't enjoy her jumperoo/exersaucer as much anymore.

[momofboys]

Exersaucers weren't around when I had my first - they had the walkers on wheels - WHEEE! ::

#2 son had an Exersaucer. He would rock it back and forth and move across the living room easy as pie. They are NOT stationery things at all.

I can't imagine having to take care of a bunch of children and not being able to put the baby in anything at any time of day. That's nuts!

The exersaucer my son had was stationery but then he is only 3 yrs old so it was purchased in 2008. . . I think more of them are stationery these days.

[cheerfuldom]

oy. these guidelines would kill me. I guess the point is also to limit the number of younger ones because you would have to find ways to care with them without use of this equipment.

[Unregistered]

Uh, so I guess you just put them down on the floor and let everyone step on them? Those rules are asinine! I cannot imagine not having the option of using a swing, bumbo, or exersaucer.

[Crystal]

Can you guys use swings?

Maybe I'm getting you confused with Georgia.

I think in California there is a time limit to being awake in a crib.

Crystal will know.

We can use swings for limited periods of time, never while sleeping.

Time limit for crib or playpen is only when putting down to sleep, or when provider must use potty, etc.

High chairs can only be used for feeding times, or for an older infant for drawing/activity time, etc.

No bouncers, no doorway jumpers, no exersaucers, no walkers.

These regs are enforced differently county to county, monitor to monitor.....to be "interpreted" by the individual monitor as they see fit.

If you have any of this equipment for your own child it must not be out during daycare hours.

[Crystal]

These regs have been put in place due to providers over-use of equipment. Children were being left in swings, bouncers, etc. to the detriment of the children's physical development, as due to a couple of horrible incidents that set precedent.

About 10 years ago I got a phone call from a licensor in another county. It was regarding the FCC that my niece attended...they could not reach her parents.

A baby had died in daycare that day. He had been put down for nap in a playpen in another room.....an apparently had not been checked on for several hours when Mom arrived to find her infant non-responsive. This happened AFTER licensing had recieved numerous complaints about children be left in high chairs for extended periods....with photos showing bruises from the straps because the children were crying and trying to free themselves.

Sad, but true, and one of many incidents that resulted in tougher regs for infant equipment.

[sharlan]

POLICY
Licensees can be required to provide toys, that the toys be safe as reflected in
Section 102417(d), and that the toys be age-appropriate (e.g., bicycles for infants are not
appropriate). It is a generally accepted practice to require toys at the prelicensing visit in
order to demonstrate readiness for operation.
Section 1596.846 is added to the Health and Safety Code which states in part that a baby
walker shall not be kept or used on the premises of a Child Care Facilities. A baby walker is
defined as an article known as a “baby bouncer”, “walker jumper”, “baby walker” or any
similar article.The above Health and Safety Code is not intended to prohibit the storage and use of a baby
walker in a provider’s own home for their own children. The intention is to prohibit the use
of a baby walker during the hours of operation as a child care home. Therefore, baby
walkers may be in a child care home, but they cannot be used by the children and they must
be stored in an area not accessible to children during the hours of operation as a child care
home.
_________________________________________________________________________________
01FCCH-01 May
2001
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[mac60]

And all this BS explains why I would never do this job and be licensed. The rules and regulations are absolutely rediculous. What the hell you supposed to do with a baby during their waking hours, duct tape them to your back and haul them around all day. I don't think so.

[sharlan]

The fine for not having a license in CA is $200 a day. That's just not worth it in my book.

[Michelle]

Please Someone correct me if I'm wrong. It's been a long time since my orientation days and I don't do infant care,
But I was told that you can place the baby in crib or pack n play for the purpose of napping only. You can't put them in there as a place to play toys or any other activity.
You can lay them awake to sleep, but only for that purpose.
Also about the swing I would call and check with LIC. I recall no swings for the reasons that nannyde stated.

That's what I was going to say, I was told no swings!

[daycare]

And all this BS explains why I would never do this job and be licensed. The rules and regulations are absolutely rediculous. What the hell you supposed to do with a baby during their waking hours, duct tape them to your back and haul them around all day. I don't think so.

Lol that made me laugh! The vision of someone doing that is funny!
Let's hope someone wouldn't do that!! Lol

[sharlan]

I've often thought about how nice a velcro wall would be. Just wrap them in soft velcro and attach.

(JUST KIDDING)

I just spoke to my neighbor at the mailbox. He said he knew they weren't allowed, but didn't see the father bring it in this morning. He carried it in the front door, how could you not see it?

[Christian Mother]

I am not licensed here in AZ. But I stick pretty closely to AZ regulations. My first daycare child came to me at 3mo. My son was already in school and I had my daughter in care with me...she was about 2. This little guy is still with me and he used a swing for a couple months until he tired of it and then I used a bouncer to place him in when I needed to go potty and would place him in it when I went to the bathroom or when while fixing lunch. All feedings he was in my arms and then when he slept he would be placed into his pnp. He did quiet a bit of sleeping for a 4 months or so. Then when he got to be 5 or 6 months old he could be placed on a big blanket on his tummy with toys. He wasn't so much interested in a swing. I had a bouncer but he didn't seem to like it much. It was one of those saucer ones. My daughter loved it when she was a infant. I remember infants sleep a whole lot and the only times they where awake was feeding and diapering and maybe a hr or so up to play. It didn't seem to hard at all to have one and then when they got older it was a lot of tummy time. I will have another infant in Dec. the brother to my first daycare child I mentioned. I will pretty much do the same I did before. Oh forgot to mention you can have 4 paid children in care anything past that you will have to be lic. There is no way I could care for more then 5 kids. I have 2 of my own and one is in school with the other in preschool. No way could I do that with a infant.

[Michelle]

I've often thought about how nice a velcro wall would be. Just wrap them in soft velcro and attach.

(JUST KIDDING)

I just spoke to my neighbor at the mailbox. He said he knew they weren't allowed, but didn't see the father bring it in this morning. He carried it in the front door, how could you not see it?

omg, that is so funny!!!
we are always joking about a velcro wall!!
when things get really tough we just say "velcro wall" to each other for a good laugh!!! We went to a carnival and they had a jumpy velcro wall and I told my dh to go ask how much they cost!!::::::

[PitterPatter]

In CA we can't have baby swings, walkers, bounce seats, exersaucers and children can not be placed in a crib or pack-n-plack if awake...

LIC. rules....I don't have any babies but I think those rules STINK

Well I would be the 1st to lose my licence then! Sometimes a pack and play is a MUST! Whoever makes these rules needs to walk a day in our shoes with some of our children with issues that require such things. Who makes the rules anyway? Obviously not an experience child care provider. Probably some old guy sitting behind a desk that never even changed a diaper!