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  • judiann123

    #46
    Looking for a very genuine nanny with trusted Callitme reviews

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    We are a professional couple looking for a nanny to care for our three children. One is three year old, second one is two and the third one is six months old. You must have at least five years of experience as a nanny, You must love children and be reliable, trustworthy, punctual and well presented. You will be required to work weekdays from 8am – 6pm, with occasional evenings/weekends for which you will be paid overtime. We cannot accommodate if you are a smoker.

    Your responsibilities will include:
    • Creating a nurturing and stimulating environment
    • Meeting the children’s social, emotional and physical needs
    • Providing age-appropriate activities
    • Doing the children’s laundry
    • Dressing the children
    • Bathing the children
    • Assisting with self-care and hygiene, including diapering
    • Potty training
    • Disciplining the children, when necessary and in accordance with our parenting principles
    • Reading to the children
    • Keeping the children’s bedroom and toy room organized and tidy
    • Preparing nutritious meals and snacks
    • Returning the house to the condition it was in upon arrival
    • Instilling good manners and a sense of responsibility
    • Taking the children on age-appropriate outings
    • Transporting the children to and from activities and appointments
    • Accompanying parents to medical appointments
    • Traveling with the family.
    Requirements
    • At least five years of previous nanny experience
    • Must have at least ten reviews from your close family and friends on your Callitme profile
    • Experience caring for newborns (toddlers, preschoolers, or teens)
    • Good health
    • Valid driver’s license
    • Authorization to legally accept employment in the United States
    • Dependable, honest and trustworthy
    • Can work independently
    • Knowledge of the community and activities available to young children.

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    • getnsmart
      New Daycare.com Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 26

      #47
      Originally posted by NightOwl
      This is the most ridiculous post i have ever read. I also turn in unlicensed providers. And who is she to talk about not having an education when she apparently doesn't herself? Her grammar is deplorable. I hope someone can find out who this person is and put her out of "business". There is definitely something wrong if parents seek out unlicensed providers. They must have something to hide, just like the provider. I have way more pride in my work than to be unlicensed. And I'm sure she's also uninsured. A real winner.
      I definitely agree, some of those posts are simply ridiculous

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      • Blackcat31
        • Oct 2010
        • 36124

        #48
        Originally posted by getnsmart
        I definitely agree, some of those posts are simply ridiculous
        This is an old thread.

        The post you quoted is from 2014

        Always relevant information but old thread none the less

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        • Meeko
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 4351

          #49
          This post is ancient, but I have read over it a few times. The title makes me roll my eyes.

          There are really only two types of daycare. Licensed/registered or legally unlicensed.

          Everything else is ILLEGAL.

          She calls it "Licensed" or "Private".

          Private is not another word for illegal!!! She knows full well she is wrong. She just doesn't like to jump through a few hoops. Few of us actually enjoy the paperwork and inspections etc, but it's part of our job. We don't have to like it. The regs are there to help protect the kids.

          We live in a world of rules and regs. That's just life. We don't get to decide which laws we will abide by and which ones we won't.

          I don't get much enjoyment out of paying the registration and insurance on my car. So I guess I'd better stop doing it and become a "private" car owner then???....

          And any illegal provider who has the gall to complain when a parent doesn't follow HER rules...needs to look in the mirror.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #50
            Originally posted by Meeko
            This post is ancient, but I have read over it a few times. The title makes me roll my eyes.

            There are really only two types of daycare. Licensed/registered or legally unlicensed.

            Everything else is ILLEGAL.

            She calls it "Licensed" or "Private".

            Private is not another word for illegal!!! She knows full well she is wrong. She just doesn't like to jump through a few hoops. Few of us actually enjoy the paperwork and inspections etc, but it's part of our job. We don't have to like it. The regs are there to help protect the kids.

            We live in a world of rules and regs. That's just life. We don't get to decide which laws we will abide by and which ones we won't.

            I don't get much enjoyment out of paying the registration and insurance on my car. So I guess I'd better stop doing it and become a "private" car owner then???....

            And any illegal provider who has the gall to complain when a parent doesn't follow HER rules...needs to look in the mirror.
            :::: We should have an Post of the Week (like Employee of the Month) because this one would be this weeks featured post for sure!

            Great response Meeko!! happyface happyface

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            • Meeko
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 4351

              #51
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              :::: We should have an Post of the Week (like Employee of the Month) because this one would be this weeks featured post for sure!

              Great response Meeko!! happyface happyface
              Why..thank you! *bows deeply* ::::::

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              • Michael
                Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
                • Aug 2007
                • 7951

                #52
                Our forum may be old (10 years) but everything is indexed for the world to search (except our private sections). Its a relevant topic and if you search for "Licensed Daycare vs Private Daycare" this thread comes up fourth. Many of our thread Titles with the word "daycare" usually come up first in Google and other searches.

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                • Mike
                  starting daycare someday
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 2507

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Michael
                  Our forum may be old (10 years) but everything is indexed for the world to search (except our private sections). Its a relevant topic and if you search for "Licensed Daycare vs Private Daycare" this thread comes up fourth. Many of our thread Titles with the word "daycare" usually come up first in Google and other searches.
                  Because it's such an active and informative site, and that's what Google tried to show people searching. I still remember that I was Googling for information on starting a daycare and that's when I found it.
                  Children are little angels, even when they are little devils.
                  They are also our future.

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                  • Just Me

                    #54
                    Looking to start a daycare... privately

                    Look, I’ve been a nanny in other peoples houses for 20 something years. I want to take care of children in my home and have the freedom to have someone...anyone stop by to say hello. I’m also an independent person who doesn’t like to be told how to run my OWN business. I don’t need the state to tell me how to run my house. Period. Obviously running a private daycare is not breaking any rule so I’m not sure what you mean by “not following the rules”. It sounds like you are upset with the competition on your street. I could very ell be wrong...or maybe you have experienced so personal abuse and neglect or know someone who has. I’m sorry for that. But as for me, I want to run a daycare like a home, not with government restrictions. The whole reason some parents want private care is because they are looking for a nice home environment for their children. There is nothing suspicious about that.

                    That said, it sounds like in KS you only need a high school diploma to run a daycare. That’s scary. Think about how limited the education can be and yet one can still run a daycare and be responsible for someone else’s children. How rounded are the people who haven’t furthered their education or at least taken some childcare classes? I would never hire a person with no actual experience or someone who is not educated enough to teach my children while in their care.

                    Having said that, I don’t actually quite know what the requirements are for NJ where I live, but I can say I’d be surprised if the only requirement was a high school education. That may explain why only 2 children are allowed in a KS licensed daycare. I know in NJ it’s five or six. And by the way, 2 children is hardly a daycare.

                    As for the state being for the safety of the children......have you ever worked for the state? I have. And I’m educated enough to know that not everything the state does is in your best interest. You could run an immaculate business and someone might not like you and blow a whistle on something you “allegedly” did and you’re toast.

                    On another note, I get your suspicions on private daycares. Yes, a lot of children are abused and that’s terrible. And those are the ones we KNOW about. I’m an advocate for children. I love them so much. I used to be a counselor for sexual abuse and domestic violence. I just want to say that not all private daycares (at least none that I know of where I live) are bad. There is a protocol to follow, even for private daycares.

                    Not all private daycares are bad. In fact, there are some good people in the world...still. I would run mine privately. I don’t need big brother looking over my shoulder. Thank you.

                    Peace.

                    Originally posted by NoMoreJuice!
                    I am seriously annoyed at anyone who chooses not to follow the rules. In Kansas, it is illegal to watch more than 2 children unrelated to you more than 20 hours a week. On my street alone, there are three unlicensed daycare homes that I know of. It is not that difficult to do the right thing and be licensed, UNLESS you have something to hide. Yes, the state can be a pain, but if you are an honest human being, you shouldn't have a problem with them. By the way, in KS you do have to hold a high school diploma to operate a licensed daycare.

                    Several of the posts in this thread make me very suspicious. What are you doing watching other people's children when the parents don't even want the state to get involved?

                    I've been falsely accused of things before, that's just the nature of doing business with the public. But I am damn sure going to comply with all state rules because, for the most part, they are for the SAFETY of the children in my care. Why on earth would parents trust someone who is never inspected, doesn't have to follow any safety rules, and has no accountability as to the quality of care they provide?

                    OF COURSE you're going to hear of abuse and neglect in licensed daycare....because they're the ones who are CAUGHT. Are you aware of how many unlicensed daycare home providers abuse and neglect children without ever being caught? It is totally unreasonable to think that licensed providers are the only ones just because you see it on the news.

                    I will always fight to turn in unlicensed providers, and not only because they are attacking my business. It is for the safety and well being of the kids.

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                    • Unregistered

                      #55
                      More information

                      Where is your location??

                      Originally posted by judiann123
                      DESCRIPTION
                      We are a professional couple looking for a nanny to care for our three children. One is three year old, second one is two and the third one is six months old. You must have at least five years of experience as a nanny, You must love children and be reliable, trustworthy, punctual and well presented. You will be required to work weekdays from 8am – 6pm, with occasional evenings/weekends for which you will be paid overtime. We cannot accommodate if you are a smoker.

                      Your responsibilities will include:
                      • Creating a nurturing and stimulating environment
                      • Meeting the children’s social, emotional and physical needs
                      • Providing age-appropriate activities
                      • Doing the children’s laundry
                      • Dressing the children
                      • Bathing the children
                      • Assisting with self-care and hygiene, including diapering
                      • Potty training
                      • Disciplining the children, when necessary and in accordance with our parenting principles
                      • Reading to the children
                      • Keeping the children’s bedroom and toy room organized and tidy
                      • Preparing nutritious meals and snacks
                      • Returning the house to the condition it was in upon arrival
                      • Instilling good manners and a sense of responsibility
                      • Taking the children on age-appropriate outings
                      • Transporting the children to and from activities and appointments
                      • Accompanying parents to medical appointments
                      • Traveling with the family.
                      Requirements
                      • At least five years of previous nanny experience
                      • Must have at least ten reviews from your close family and friends on your Callitme profile
                      • Experience caring for newborns (toddlers, preschoolers, or teens)
                      • Good health
                      • Valid driver’s license
                      • Authorization to legally accept employment in the United States
                      • Dependable, honest and trustworthy
                      • Can work independently
                      • Knowledge of the community and activities available to young children.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #56
                        Oops

                        I am new to this forum. I see you are located in the south. Rats. I have nearly 20 years experience with children and am currently with 3 girls and have been with them since their births. They are now turning 5 (twins) and six. My time with them is combing to an end and I am so heartbroken over it. I hope you find the right person. Never compromise when it comes to the care of your children. And pick someone who has strong Christian values. That’s my advice. Take it for what it’s worth.


                        Originally posted by judiann123
                        DESCRIPTION
                        We are a professional couple looking for a nanny to care for our three children. One is three year old, second one is two and the third one is six months old. You must have at least five years of experience as a nanny, You must love children and be reliable, trustworthy, punctual and well presented. You will be required to work weekdays from 8am – 6pm, with occasional evenings/weekends for which you will be paid overtime. We cannot accommodate if you are a smoker.

                        Your responsibilities will include:
                        • Creating a nurturing and stimulating environment
                        • Meeting the children’s social, emotional and physical needs
                        • Providing age-appropriate activities
                        • Doing the children’s laundry
                        • Dressing the children
                        • Bathing the children
                        • Assisting with self-care and hygiene, including diapering
                        • Potty training
                        • Disciplining the children, when necessary and in accordance with our parenting principles
                        • Reading to the children
                        • Keeping the children’s bedroom and toy room organized and tidy
                        • Preparing nutritious meals and snacks
                        • Returning the house to the condition it was in upon arrival
                        • Instilling good manners and a sense of responsibility
                        • Taking the children on age-appropriate outings
                        • Transporting the children to and from activities and appointments
                        • Accompanying parents to medical appointments
                        • Traveling with the family.
                        Requirements
                        • At least five years of previous nanny experience
                        • Must have at least ten reviews from your close family and friends on your Callitme profile
                        • Experience caring for newborns (toddlers, preschoolers, or teens)
                        • Good health
                        • Valid driver’s license
                        • Authorization to legally accept employment in the United States
                        • Dependable, honest and trustworthy
                        • Can work independently
                        • Knowledge of the community and activities available to young children.

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                        • Unregistered

                          #57
                          Ugh...

                          Umm...if I recall, she said the child feel asleep in the swing minutes before she was sited. My guess is the distraction of the state worker who came out took away her time from caring for the children. No visitors, right? Even state workers are visitors if they interfere with your care for children. I mean, come on. Do you have children? Ever had a child fall asleep on a swing? At the table eating? On the toilet? Playing with toys? Gimme a break. This is so petty.


                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          OLD thread... 2010

                          The info may still be relevant but I doubt any of the unregistered posters have returned.

                          In response to the newest unregistered poster.... following the state rules is something you agreed to do when you applied for and received a license.

                          It doesn't mean you get to pick and choose which rules you follow and don't follow. If the state says you cannot have visitors when you are working, then you can't have visitors while working. Just like any other job!

                          Also the fact that you KNOW you aren't suppose to allow an infant to sleep in a swing and did and are complaining about the fact that you got written up for it verses acknowledging that you deserved the citation (because you did) says that it is a good thing that the state has been visiting you.

                          I read updates from my state DHS website every.single day about citations given to providers who don't follow SUID guidelines and safe sleep practices (even after taking regular trainings) and it literally makes me sick that so many providers take a KNOWN risk with someone else's child!

                          Then when it ends badly, we all look bad.

                          My advice to you is stop complaining about what you can't do and do what you are suppose to do and that is care for the children in your care. Visit with your daughter-in-law and grand children on YOUR time, not time your clients are paying you to care for their child according to the state's guidelines.

                          I don't mean to sound so harsh but I'm tired of reading about dead babies because provider's think they should be able to do whatever they want in their homes without understanding or recognizing that you agreed to follow these rules when you applied for your license.

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                          • Unregistered

                            #58
                            Looking For A Childcare Center To Lease - Georgia

                            Hello. I am in need of a commercial space for my program. Near Atlana.

                            Thank you

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                            • Unregistered

                              #59
                              Unlicensed daycare

                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              Seriously? I live in IL and have never had any problems with licensing. It's a lot of work, but what business owner doesn't have a lot on their plate? I honestly feel like a licensed home daycare looks better. I actually think they should raise the standards to become and stay licensed! If you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?
                              Many of us do not view it as being a business owner , we are providing a second home to children ... it’s so much more than a business and we value the family aspect of opening our homes to children !

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                              • Unregistered

                                #60
                                Licensed vs non licensed

                                Originally posted by Just Me
                                Look, I’ve been a nanny in other peoples houses for 20 something years. I want to take care of children in my home and have the freedom to have someone...anyone stop by to say hello. I’m also an independent person who doesn’t like to be told how to run my OWN business. I don’t need the state to tell me how to run my house. Period. Obviously running a private daycare is not breaking any rule so I’m not sure what you mean by “not following the rules”. It sounds like you are upset with the competition on your street. I could very ell be wrong...or maybe you have experienced so personal abuse and neglect or know someone who has. I’m sorry for that. But as for me, I want to run a daycare like a home, not with government restrictions. The whole reason some parents want private care is because they are looking for a nice home environment for their children. There is nothing suspicious about that.

                                That said, it sounds like in KS you only need a high school diploma to run a daycare. That’s scary. Think about how limited the education can be and yet one can still run a daycare and be responsible for someone else’s children. How rounded are the people who haven’t furthered their education or at least taken some childcare classes? I would never hire a person with no actual experience or someone who is not educated enough to teach my children while in their care.

                                Having said that, I don’t actually quite know what the requirements are for NJ where I live, but I can say I’d be surprised if the only requirement was a high school education. That may explain why only 2 children are allowed in a KS licensed daycare. I know in NJ it’s five or six. And by the way, 2 children is hardly a daycare.

                                As for the state being for the safety of the children......have you ever worked for the state? I have. And I’m educated enough to know that not everything the state does is in your best interest. You could run an immaculate business and someone might not like you and blow a whistle on something you “allegedly” did and you’re toast.

                                On another note, I get your suspicions on private daycares. Yes, a lot of children are abused and that’s terrible. And those are the ones we KNOW about. I’m an advocate for children. I love them so much. I used to be a counselor for sexual abuse and domestic violence. I just want to say that not all private daycares (at least none that I know of where I live) are bad. There is a protocol to follow, even for private daycares.

                                Not all private daycares are bad. In fact, there are some good people in the world...still. I would run mine privately. I don’t need big brother looking over my shoulder. Thank you.

                                Peace.
                                Totally agree with you. Why should we need a license to help a family raise their child? If the parents know we are not licensed and they are fine with it that’s all that should matter. The children are safe happy and well taken care of... that’s what is important . The regulations do not keep the children safe it’s the person caring for them. Do parents need a license to raise their child, do they have their homes inspected by the state? Some parents want a second home atmosphere for their children and they should be allowed to have that with a person of their choosing. There are bad people in every profession , no regulation is going to prevent that.

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