Licensed DayCare vs. Private DayCare

[mommyneedsadayoff]

This thread is helpful. It gives me a lot of things to think about! One of the question I have in mind is how unlicensed child care declare their income?

Most of the time they do not declare their income. Which is illegal, so on top of a person breaking the law, they could (SHOULD) be charged with tax evasion.

I think you are referring to illegally unlicensed (over ratio) as probably not claiming income.

As for a legally unlicensed daycare, we do the same as a licensed daycare and claim our income as self employed business owners (schedule C on your taxes). You can still deduct expenses and do your taxes just as any other business, because you are still a legal business, just not licensed (by choice).

[Unregistered]

I agree licensing can be annoying and petty. Some things i needed to correct before getting my license I was like really? Lol. Some of the rules are ridiculous. My mom did in home daycare and was harrassed by her worker for years. She wrote my mom up for not opening the door for her, but then when she did she got written up again for opening the door which caused her to be away from the children. Stuff like that. License workers also interpret the rule the way they want to.
With that being said though, i would not do daycare unlicensed. Parents look for the word licensed and brings you more business. And the fear of getting caught .

[Unregistered]

I dont agree with the amount of training required every year AND the fact that we cant do it online. I put in 12 hr days when do i have time to train? Besides things like CPR, First Aid, AHT and SUID why do we NEED more training???? I have a degree in early Child Development!

[LysesKids]

I agree licensing can be annoying and petty. Some things i needed to correct before getting my license I was like really? Lol. Some of the rules are ridiculous. My mom did in home daycare and was harrassed by her worker for years. She wrote my mom up for not opening the door for her, but then when she did she got written up again for opening the door which caused her to be away from the children. Stuff like that. License workers also interpret the rule the way they want to.
With that being said though, i would not do daycare unlicensed. Parents look for the word licensed and brings you more business. And the fear of getting caught .

Here in TN being licensed will not allow me more children because I do infants only... that said, I still update my CPR/First Aid training when needed and take what relevant classes I can online so I can keep up to date - I have been fully licensed in 4 states, and I still act as a licensed home even though I am legally license exempt now. My parents appreciate that I have contracts and written policies and that I go above and beyond what many others here don't do

[Blackcat31]

I agree licensing can be annoying and petty. Some things i needed to correct before getting my license I was like really? Lol. Some of the rules are ridiculous. My mom did in home daycare and was harrassed by her worker for years. She wrote my mom up for not opening the door for her, but then when she did she got written up again for opening the door which caused her to be away from the children. Stuff like that. License workers also interpret the rule the way they want to.
With that being said though, i would not do daycare unlicensed. Parents look for the word licensed and brings you more business. And the fear of getting caught .

What state are you in? I would have some serious issues with how your mother was treated...

I dont agree with the amount of training required every year AND the fact that we cant do it online. I put in 12 hr days when do i have time to train? Besides things like CPR, First Aid, AHT and SUID why do we NEED more training???? I have a degree in early Child Development!

I am in MN and also have a degree (bachelor's in ECE) and am required to take 16 hours of training per year but ALL of the training we are required to take CAN be done on-line on our time with the exception of CPR/First Aid but that's only every other year so not a huge deal. I've logged over 115 hours of training for 2016 alone. ALL done on-line.

I think training requirements in MN are very lax and not at all as stringent as some states are. I think we need MORE training that what the current requirements are but I think the training should be in specific areas verses having to take and retake the same things (such as supervision courses/training and child development courses/training).

[Unregistered]

BC. I am also in MN and in my letter after i got my license it said only 2hrs of training will count towards correspondence courses...

[Blackcat31]

BC. I am also in MN and in my letter after i got my license it said only 2hrs of training will count towards correspondence courses...

Oh... you can now do ALL your trainings through Anytime Time Learning or Eager to Learn. I'll find the update we got a while back (it was when they changed the required number of training hours per year to 16) and post.

[Unregistered]

When was this updated? I received this letter in June. My worker is very hard to reach otherwise i would just ask her. I left her many voicemails in september about something and she never got back to me .

[Blackcat31]

When was this updated? I received this letter in June. My worker is very hard to reach otherwise i would just ask her. I left her many voicemails in september about something and she never got back to me .

This is the new training requirements

http://childcareawaremn.org/sites/default/files/attachments/lfcc_requirements_brochure_final.pdf

It talks about accessing training on-line and makes no mention of anything requiring face to face training.

I know I have something though that talks specifically about what can and can't be done on-line. I'll keep searching...

[Josiegirl]

BC, the online training you do....is it just for Mn.? I've taken some online training through Care Courses; I have to space them out because it gets costly. I'd love to find a cheaper source that my state will allow.

[Unregistered]

BC Thanks! Im wondering if the info you have about being able to do all online just applies to your county? Did the new training requirements apply to all counties and does each county have different rules?

[Blackcat31]

BC Thanks! Im wondering if the info you have about being able to do all online just applies to your county? Did the new training requirements apply to all counties and does each county have different rules?

No it's all of MN

You should be able to take everything (other than CPR/First Aid) completely online.

[Blackcat31]

BC, the online training you do....is it just for Mn.? I've taken some online training through Care Courses; I have to space them out because it gets costly. I'd love to find a cheaper source that my state will allow.

The site I linked is for MN but it's through Child Care Aware which is national so you should contact your local or state one and ask if they too have ATL (Any Time Learning) or ETL (Eager to Learn) courses.

I'll look around and see if I can find where to link you to for info...

I have never used Care Courses so I am unsure of them.

[Unregistered]

What can we do about this

How can we fight back against all of this? It's not ok for daycares to be shut down for no reason who! Can help when this happens I need serious answers please and thank you..

[Blackcat31]

How can we fight back against all of this? It's not ok for daycares to be shut down for no reason who! Can help when this happens I need serious answers please and thank you..

Fight back against what?

I am not understanding your post and what it is you are looking for....

This is an older thread so not sure what it is you are referring to when you say "fight back against all of this".