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  • Live and Learn
    Daycare.com Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 956

    #16
    Originally posted by wdmmom
    I live in a quarter million dollar home
    :confused:What the hec does this have to do with a broken window?:confused:

    FYI ...there are many places where a 250k house is considered a tear down........so, big wup if you have a 250k house!

    Sorry if that sounds snarky but wow, really?

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    • daycare
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      • Feb 2011
      • 16259

      #17
      I guess depending on where you live, $250,000 is a lot for a home. Here where I live you could maybe get a 750sf condo for that price

      I think thAt this situation goes with the territory of having a DC
      I have had many things broken, some I cried about. I thinks that stuff getting broken is to be expected when running a home DC

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      • wdmmom
        Advanced Daycare.com
        • Mar 2011
        • 2713

        #18
        Originally posted by Live and Learn
        :confused:What the hec does this have to do with a broken window?:confused:

        FYI ...there are many places where a 250k house is considered a tear down........so, big wup if you have a 250k house!

        Sorry if that sounds snarky but wow, really?
        Big wup to you but not to those that have thrived and worked to get to where they are. The home I live in is newer and it's in great shape. The majority of homes around here that daycare is performed in are mediocre 2 bedroom bungalows where daycare is performed in a living room. They have no real space of their own. I have separate areas through out my home solely for daycare.

        Families around here have high end jobs and pay high end daycare rates. Most are looking for a good quality daycare in a nice home/neighborhood. I'm glad I can provide that for them. They also agree to my rules when they start. The rules aren't for anyone to agree to but my daycare clients.


        Not to get sidetracked but

        CASE IN POINT...a window is inexpensive but it might be a major expense to the person living there and there's no harm in asking for help paying for the repair.

        In this situation, I feel the OP is responsible. That is why I suggested repairing rather than replacing and finding a glass company that can come out or you can take the window to and fix.

        I broke a window by tossing something down the stairs a few years ago. I put a crack in it. It cost me a measly $35 bucks. That's a big wup to me but for someone living paycheck to paycheck, $35 bucks is a matter of eating lunch for the week!

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        • nannyde
          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
          • Mar 2010
          • 7320

          #19
          Originally posted by Live and Learn
          :confused:What the hec does this have to do with a broken window?:confused:

          FYI ...there are many places where a 250k house is considered a tear down........so, big wup if you have a 250k house!

          Sorry if that sounds snarky but wow, really?
          I wish I had her house.


          I live in the same area.

          She lives way better than I would ever dream of living.

          If I had her house and had it as nice as she has... I would think very differently about damage. Believe it.
          Last edited by nannyde; 06-07-2011, 01:31 PM.
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          • Live and Learn
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            • Sep 2010
            • 956

            #20
            Originally posted by wdmmom
            Families around here have high end jobs and pay high end daycare rates. Most are looking for a good quality daycare in a nice home/neighborhood. I'm glad I can provide that for them. They also agree to my rules when they start. The rules aren't for anyone to agree to but my daycare clients.
            It sounds like we both agree that the op should just take care of the expense herself.

            I can tell that you are really impressed by that 250k figure but I really don't see what it has anything to do with supporting your opinion on the broken window.

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            • wdmmom
              Advanced Daycare.com
              • Mar 2011
              • 2713

              #21
              Originally posted by Live and Learn
              It sounds like we both agree that the op should just take care of the expense herself.

              I can tell that you are really impressed by that 250k figure but I really don't see what it has anything to do with supporting your opinion on the broken window.
              Most people around here would just leave the window broken and duct tape it. ::
              Not me. I would fix it or replace it and usually the more expensive the home, the higher the cost to fix things.

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              • mac60
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • May 2008
                • 1610

                #22
                Originally posted by momofboys
                The part that would bother me regarding the responsibility of the parents is that this could happen under supervision & with ANY toy (blocks/hot wheels car, etc). All it takes is a second or two & it could happen even with appropriate toys. Sorry but a caregiver can't monitor every single movement a child in their care makes. I see nothing wrong with asking parents to pay part of it OR at least letting them know what happened.
                I agree with what you wrote here. This child should not get away with this. His parents should at least be told and if they were respectful caring parents they would offer to help pay for it. Seriously, when we do daycare out of our home, it is my home first....daycare second. When a person/child comes into my home, they are expected to respect it and if I the homeowner want to have a trophy in my home that is my right. My daycare room is in my family room, and I expect each child that comes in there to respect my stuff. So I am supposed to remove the tv from my family room? Hell no. What happened to people being respectful and responsible for their children and what they do. Our society today ****s, I remember the day wher a handshake meant "your word", not anymore, we have to sign stupid contracts. Sorry you are dealing with this.

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                • daycare
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 16259

                  #23
                  I think regardless of the price of the home a home can't be without windows. Just like a car can't be without tires.
                  When you make the decision to do DC from your home you accept that there will be damages. I build this into monthly expenses. Up keep and care for the home

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                  • wdmmom
                    Advanced Daycare.com
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2713

                    #24
                    Originally posted by daycare
                    I think regardless of the price of the home a home can't be without windows. Just like a car can't be without tires.
                    When you make the decision to do DC from your home you accept that there will be damages. I build this into monthly expenses. Up keep and care for the home
                    Absolutely. I figure in a couple toys a year will meet their maker, a hole in the wall might occur, someone might pee on the floor or on the wall and a child might vomit on my carpet or in a pack and play. I don't figure windows, doors, TV's etc.

                    Anything beyond normal wear and tear should be at the discretion of the provider and the situation surrounding the incident.

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                    • nannyde
                      All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 7320

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Live and Learn
                      It sounds like we both agree that the op should just take care of the expense herself.

                      I can tell that you are really impressed by that 250k figure but I really don't see what it has anything to do with supporting your opinion on the broken window.
                      She's not bragging. She's telling you that she has a LOT invested in her home and wants to protect it. Where we come from this is a BIG investment and it takes A LOT to be able to even have that.

                      I know I couldn't support a house like that. If I was able to I would feel very differently about damage.

                      I don't hold parents accountable for damage. I don't have that in my policies. If I had school aged kids I would.
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                      • daycare
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                        • Feb 2011
                        • 16259

                        #26
                        I understand with what you are saying and I think that is fair. But just like catherder said, the parents may see it as failure to properly watch their child.

                        I would mention it to the parents, hopefully they will feel bad about it and offer to pay, but if they don't then the provider has no choice but to cover the cost herself. The house can't go without a window or a broken one.

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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #27
                          Originally posted by wdmmom
                          Absolutely. I figure in a couple toys a year will meet their maker, a hole in the wall might occur, someone might pee on the floor or on the wall and a child might vomit on my carpet or in a pack and play. I don't figure windows, doors, TV's etc.

                          Anything beyond normal wear and tear should be at the discretion of the provider and the situation surrounding the incident.
                          ....and in this situation, the window was broken by an object the child should never have had access to. Not a Hot Wheel car or any other toy that 2 year olds could throw. The 2 year olds I have/had throw everything....it is part of their developmental age. Doesn't mean it is ok, just means that they do it.

                          I also think the poster who mentioned having the right to have a trophy in her home: you are absolutely right about being able to have whatever you want (legally) in your home, but when you choose to do child care, you are agreeing to certain safety requirements and certain things happening. I completely agree with you about people not being as respectful and all today and I do not think we should remove our TV's from our family rooms but I also think that in this particular situation it has nothing to do wiht respect. If I were the parents of this child, I would be offended if the OP asked me to pay for part of this. I would say no and would be even more upset that because of that she viewed me as a less than caring or respectful parent.

                          The OP didn't say he was being naughty or behaving crazy. She just said she heard the sound while she was doing something else so in this situation, I think it falls on the provider. JMO.

                          FTR: even when I rented an crappy apartment and lived paycheck to paycheck vs now where I am financially stable and own more than I ever dreamed, I still have the same views about responsibilty. Whether we can or can't afford stuff doesn't change the facts in this situation.

                          WDMMOM: I know you were only trying to make a point and I think it is being taken a bit differently than you may have intended but I do see where you are coming from.

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                          • Crystal
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 4002

                            #28
                            well, my house cost $370,000, not that it matters :: I had a kid break a window once when he was outside with Mom, leaving. She paid for the window. Same kid broke a window when he was inside with me, I paid for it.

                            I say whoever the person responsible for watching the child at the time the incident occurred is responsible for the repair cost, regardless of what your home is worth

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                            • Cat Herder
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 13744

                              #29
                              Originally posted by nannyde
                              I don't hold parents accountable for damage. I don't have that in my policies. If I had school aged kids I would.
                              I agree. I do exactly the same.

                              There is an exception to every rule.

                              If OP was talking about an 8 year old with a history of property damage I would expect the parents to chip in AND the child to work off his "debt". My view is that I assumed the risk when I took on the responsibility of caring for the child knowing his history AND the parents would have agreed to our disciplinary plan in advance.

                              Infants and toddlers do not fit into that category at all, IMHO. 100% of their 10 hour day falls on me.

                              I begin making the child accountable at pre-school age (3-4, since I do not keep them after that) depending on the maturity level of the individual. That is the kind of teaching I like. I involve the parents and together we make a disciplinary plan for each child and their specific issue.

                              Last year I had a 3 year old who liked to bite and tear up nap mats while I was bottle feeding infants. After I replaced a couple and the child washed ALOT of toys; I made her parents start paying for them since I was not allowed to withhold a nap mat by State regs. Once it cost them money the problem "magically disappeared" in under a week. Simple and effective.

                              Will that work for every parent or child....ugh, NO. ::

                              I stand by my original statement though. In this case I would just handle my business. It is an expensive lesson, but not as expensive as it could have been if a child had been right next to that window.
                              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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