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  • maudie65
    New Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 12

    What Would You Charge?

    I have a dcm that works as a county correctional officer. Shes also a friend. I have been watching her daughter for about 2 years now. When I first enrolled her I watched the dck for 13 hours almost 14 hours a day. But only 3 or 4 days a week. I charged $28 dollars than.
    Its been 4 months since I've had to watch the dck for that long, since the moms scheduled changed to nights, I watched the dck when the mom slept on weekdays. I since changed my fees to $20 a day.
    I also have another dck I've been watching for 3 months. M-f 8 to 6.
    My dilemma is now my c.o. friend is going back to days and weekends, which means I would need to watch the c.o. dck for almost 14 hours a day.
    Is this reasonable? My fee of $20 a day for 10 hours. Plus $3.00 per extra hour. So it would be about $32 a day. I think thats fair considering I no longer have any days off for at least 3 months, because she will rotate her shift. Am I over charging?
  • DaycareMama
    Daycare.com Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 621

    #2
    Ugh thats a long day! I dont know what the typical rates are in your area but that sounds very cheap to me.

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    • Live and Learn
      Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 956

      #3
      That sounds too cheap especially considering no days off....FOR THREE SUMMER MONTHS!!!!:confused:

      Your $32 for 14 hours is less than I get for 8 hours..........

      I really don't think you are asking enough.

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      • maudie65
        New Daycare.com Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 12

        #4
        Originally posted by Live and Learn
        That sounds too cheap especially considering no days off....FOR THREE SUMMER MONTHS!!!!:confused:

        Your $32 for 14 hours is less than I get for 8 hours..........

        I really don't think you are asking enough.
        typical rates range from $25 to $30. i know, i really dont want to do it but dont want to lose her either. i honestly feel i should charge more but dont want to seem like im taking advantage of her because she doesn't have anyone else willing to help her.
        i really feel sick to my stomach because i dont want to watch her for that long, especially since i will be watching another kid on the weekdays. and i want to tell her no but i cant afford to lose her. it ****s!! it really does!!

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        • Abigail
          Child Care Provider
          • Jul 2010
          • 2417

          #5
          What is your average rate? I think the $32 is fair and that should have been that high to begin with a few months ago. If you work weekends or evenings I would charge close-to or even double your hourly break-down rate. You need down time or you will burn out. How many other children do you watch and any of your own as well? Good luck with this summer!

          I would also make sure this C.O. mom provides extra things like sunscreen and bug spray to lighten the purchasing load off you for your long hours as well.

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          • maudie65
            New Daycare.com Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 12

            #6
            Originally posted by DaycareMama
            Ugh thats a long day! I dont know what the typical rates are in your area but that sounds very cheap to me.
            i know its ridiculous. i asked her to ask family members who could help pick up the extra 4 hours but she didnt sound like that option would be possible!!!

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            • maudie65
              New Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 12

              #7
              Originally posted by Abigail
              What is your average rate? I think the $32 is fair and that should have been that high to begin with a few months ago. If you work weekends or evenings I would charge close-to or even double your hourly break-down rate. You need down time or you will burn out. How many other children do you watch and any of your own as well? Good luck with this summer!

              I would also make sure this C.O. mom provides extra things like sunscreen and bug spray to lighten the purchasing load off you for your long hours as well.
              i charge $20. i have only 1 other dck and i have 3 kids myself ages 1, 3 and 11. so there are a few kids i watch just not that many i get paid for.

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              • Abigail
                Child Care Provider
                • Jul 2010
                • 2417

                #8
                Originally posted by maudie65
                i know its ridiculous. i asked her to ask family members who could help pick up the extra 4 hours but she didnt sound like that option would be possible!!!
                Well then! LOL. For those four hours that you would like to be off, charge $5-$6/hour. You should try to aim for minimum wage at least when you don't have other children present. She'll find a way to help you out or she'll pay. You can charge your $2 an hour for the initial 10 hours for the $20/day. Then the additional hours beyond 10 hours should be $4/hour (doubled) because no children should be in care that long. Then if they go past 12 hours it should go up again (add $2/hour or $4/hour to double). If you had a 14 hour day SCHEDULED, whether they use it or not, you should get the initial $20 + $8 for the 10-12 hour time frame + $12 for the 12-14 hour time frame. That 14 hour day should be $40 at minimum!

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                • Live and Learn
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 956

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maudie65
                  typical rates range from $25 to $30.
                  Maudie...

                  :confused::confused::confused:If the going rate is $25 to $30 in your area then why are you only charging $20?:confused::confused::confused:

                  If you are working past 9 or 10 hours a day the daily fee should be higher.

                  If you are working on a weekend the rates should be way higher.

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                  • maudie65
                    New Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Abigail
                    Well then! LOL. For those four hours that you would like to be off, charge $5-$6/hour. You should try to aim for minimum wage at least when you don't have other children present. She'll find a way to help you out or she'll pay. You can charge your $2 an hour for the initial 10 hours for the $20/day. Then the additional hours beyond 10 hours should be $4/hour (doubled) because no children should be in care that long. Then if they go past 12 hours it should go up again (add $2/hour or $4/hour to double). If you had a 14 hour day SCHEDULED, whether they use it or not, you should get the initial $20 + $8 for the 10-12 hour time frame + $12 for the 12-14 hour time frame. That 14 hour day should be $40 at minimum!
                    WOW! thats a lot! but it sounds fair. considering its 14 hours a day. i was never good in math but i like your calculation on this!!!

                    ty

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                    • maudie65
                      New Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Live and Learn
                      Maudie...

                      :confused::confused::confused:If the going rate is $25 to $30 in your area then why are you only charging $20?:confused::confused::confused:

                      If you are working past 9 or 10 hours a day the daily fee should be higher.

                      If you are working on a weekend the rates should be way higher.
                      Yup your right! But I charge 20 because i feel like the "good" daycares charge more. Since I dont have the extra stuff I feel I should have, like a jungle gym or sleeping mats or just nice things I shouldnt charge that much.
                      I do a lot of stuff with my kids. We have reading, singing, coloring/drawing, free play, blocks, and outside time (kickball, bubbles). Plus with the infant I have I play with her and I'm trying to teach her how to crawl and sit up.
                      Its just not as structured. I let them pick and have options on what they want to do. I guess I undercharge myself.

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                      • Abigail
                        Child Care Provider
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 2417

                        #12
                        Just remember it's not what you have, it's who you are. Are you licensed? You should raise your rates to $25 a day minimum and $20 for part timers this summer and asap for this newly discovered long hours. Make sure to raise your rates again to be average because you are cheating yourself short.

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                        • Live and Learn
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 956

                          #13
                          Originally posted by maudie65
                          Yup your right! But I charge 20 because i feel like the "good" daycares charge more. Since I dont have the extra stuff I feel I should have, like a jungle gym or sleeping mats or just nice things I shouldnt charge that much.
                          I do a lot of stuff with my kids. We have reading, singing, coloring/drawing, free play, blocks, and outside time (kickball, bubbles). Plus with the infant I have I play with her and I'm trying to teach her how to crawl and sit up.
                          Its just not as structured. I let them pick and have options on what they want to do. I guess I undercharge myself.

                          Kids don't need a jungle gym or sleeping mats. I don't have a curriculum or sleeping mats.

                          You need to raise your base rates to at least $25 if that is the minimum going rate and start putting more effort into thinking of yourself as a "good" daycare. You sound like a loving daycare provider.

                          What age of children do you care for?

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