Waste Of MY Money For DCK 'Medical Condition'

[snbauser]

Here I serve milk over age one, and my choice of formula (which is Kirkland brand) to children under one. If the parent wants me to serve something else they have to sign a waiver and provide it themselves. Food program rules.

Here we must supply everything. The only exception is if the parent choses a different formula. So if a child is lactose intolerant, we have to supply the lactose free or we do not get reimbursed for ANY part of the meal.

I require the parents to bring me the doctor's form before the child actually starts.

[meganlavonnesmommy]

Wow, unfortunately she scammed you. Not sure why, other than she is psycho from the sounds of it.

My daughter has celiac disease, and had to eat lactose free for about 6 months. We had to give her soy milk, and her dr suggested we put her on two pedisures a day to gain weight. But she also had NO problems filling out the paperwork for the food program saying she needed to be lactose free. She filled it out in detail. After 6 months she was able to go back on regular dairy, but we still give her the pedisure to gain weight and cause she likes it. So its possible this child was lactose intolerant for awhile and now doesnt need to be. But either way the dr should have had no problem filling out the form.

I have 2 kids in care that arent lactose intolerant, but the parents asked if I would serve them soy milk cause its the only kind they will drink. Both offered to bring it in for them, and for awhile I had them doing that. But then it was such a hassle when I ran out, and had to remind them to bring more. I just started buying it myself, and eating the cost. It's only a few dollars more for the soy milk, and only two of the kids, so I just buy it. But both parents offered to provide it if I wanted them to. I didnt have the USDA paperwork filled out cause its not a medical issue, but personal preference. So I just kind of serve it "under the table".

[jojosmommy]

She said oh because it helps them get the nutrition and weight gain that he needs. OMG @$#*&!!! "I have been supllying this MYSELF out of MY pocket for weight gain???"


I knew right away when you said pedisure that it was for weightgain not an allergy. I had a mom try to pull this on me but when I refused to buy it for her 17 lb 2 yr old she suddenly could have regular milk after all. Sorry to hear this happened to you.

[MG&Lsmom]

What I'm not understanding is that Pediasure IS cow milk based??? My kids had severe milk allergy up until a couple of months ago (well that's when they were finally cleared of it) and Pediasure has all the same proteins that a milk allergy person would react to. There are soy based nutritional supplements that you can order through the pharmacy, but not get at any store in my area. This whole thing has me scratching my head! Even a lactose intolerant person would have a reaction to Pediasure. :confused::confused::confused::confused:

[SilverSabre25]

What I'm not understanding is that Pediasure IS cow milk based??? My kids had severe milk allergy up until a couple of months ago (well that's when they were finally cleared of it) and Pediasure has all the same proteins that a milk allergy person would react to. There are soy based nutritional supplements that you can order through the pharmacy, but not get at any store in my area. This whole thing has me scratching my head! Even a lactose intolerant person would have a reaction to Pediasure. :confused::confused::confused::confused:

I wondered this once and looked it up, and apparently (somehow?!) Pediasure is actually safe for lactose-intolerant folks--from the website:

"The complete, balanced nutrition of PediaSure is clinically proven to help kids grow.* Each delicious shake provides protein, vitamins, and minerals needed for healthy growth and development. And PediaSure is gluten-free, kosher, and halal, as well as suitable for children with lactose intolerance.† PediaSure is WIC®‡ eligible in all 50 states and widely available in stores and pharmacies."

Really not sure how that works, but whatever...

[MarinaVanessa]

Here I serve milk over age one, and my choice of formula (which is Kirkland brand) to children under one. If the parent wants me to serve something else they have to sign a waiver and provide it themselves. Food program rules.

Me too! Me too! Exactly like this. I serve whatever the food program requires, no Dr's note, no substitutions ... no exceptions. To OP if you can't get her to reimburse you and you don't want to term or whatever just keep your receipts and claim the pediasure on next years taxes since it's 100% for a daycare kid vat least you'll get you money back in the end.

[Kaddidle Care]

http://abbottnutrition.com/products/pediasure

"A unique blend of Prebiotic NutraFlora® scFOS® and antioxidants* for digestive system health and to support the immune system1,2,3
Milk-based, complete, balanced nutrition®"

http://pediasure.com/faq

Yes. PediaSure contains milk protein.These proteins are derived from cow’s milk. PediaSure products are suitable for children with lactose intolerance.*

Can someone please tell me how a product containing milk is suitable for children with lactose intolerance. :confused:

Lesson learned. Next time get it in writing. She's on Wick and bought cheese for herself and you bought the drinks for the kid. You got took.

[bice99]

Lactose is a type of sugar. PediaSure says it contains milk protein, which is casein. So a lactose intolerant person can drink it, but a person with a true milk allergy (to the protein) cannot. Does that make sense?

[Hunni Bee]

I have a kid that's "allergic" to milk, soy, corn and nuts.


But eats mac and cheese, ice cream, reese's cups, corn-based chips, etc....in other words, all the junk that's she's supposed to be allergic to.

However, she doesn't drink milk or water, only juice. No vegetables, except potatoes. Nothing but junk and fruit.

At one point she wasn't eating at all, and the mom asked if we could just give her chicken nuggets every day to make sure she eats. We told her we would not be making chicken nuggets every day just for her, and plus the other children would'nt eat if they knew she was getting nuggets every day. She sends cold chicken nuggets wrapped in foil the next morning. The kid knew they were in the frig, and whined for them all day. We told the mom that we must have medical authorization for her to send food from home...we get a random fax saying only "picky eater" and a signature. :confused: Yeah, that works.

I love allergies.

[PitterPatter]

I have a kid that's "allergic" to milk, soy, corn and nuts.


But eats mac and cheese, ice cream, reese's cups, corn-based chips, etc....in other words, all the junk that's she's supposed to be allergic to.

However, she doesn't drink milk or water, only juice. No vegetables, except potatoes. Nothing but junk and fruit.

At one point she wasn't eating at all, and the mom asked if we could just give her chicken nuggets every day to make sure she eats. We told her we would not be making chicken nuggets every day just for her, and plus the other children would'nt eat if they knew she was getting nuggets every day. She sends cold chicken nuggets wrapped in foil the next morning. The kid knew they were in the frig, and whined for them all day. We told the mom that we must have medical authorization for her to send food from home...we get a random fax saying only "picky eater" and a signature. :confused: Yeah, that works.I love allergies.

Oh brother! Good luck with that one!

[GretasLittleFriends]

Here I serve milk over age one, and my choice of formula (which is Kirkland brand) to children under one. If the parent wants me to serve something else they have to sign a waiver and provide it themselves. Food program rules.

Same here but I use Walmart's generic. Walmart is 1/2 hr away, next closest shopping place (with exception of local (expensive) grocery store) is an hour away.

is it possible to ask a parent to get a written note if a child has an allergy? EX. let say a child has allergies to Peanutbutter... Can we say please have a writen note with side effects to look for from your doc. This way I can put it in your child's file?? Or do you think that would be asking too much?

This is what I would do if I had a child with allergies.

Well, I do have a child that's lactose intolerant. She's my DD (Age 1) She had GERD as an infant, and was on soy formula. Both my mom and her dad's mom were and/or are lactose intolerant, though dh and I can drink milk like there's no tomorrow. She gets whole Lactaid (a lactose-free) milk. Food program is ok with that, as i just had a meeting with my rep Monday. My DD is NOT on the food program, so it really doesn't matter, but something I wanted to check on anyway.

I have not tried to give her pediasure. When we switched from formula to milk, I started her on soy milk because she had been on soy formula. I was concerned that the soy milk didn't have enough fat in it (for her brain and development) and at her 1 yr check up the doctor recommended Lactaid or another lactose free milk. She can eat yogurt and cheese. Some cottage cheeses bother her, not entirely sure about ice cream either, as she hasn't had much opportunity to try a lot of it yet. She had some at her birthday, but I don't remember her reacting to it.

Oh, and her reactions include extreme irritability, likely caused by an upset tummy, and she usually pukes. It even happens if I feed her my homemade alfredo sauce (made with milk, flour, cheeses, spices...) but Kraft Mac & Cheese is ok because there isn't as much milk (I guess).

[GretasLittleFriends]

I was going to say, you should go through your receipts and figure out exactly how much you've spent on pediasure for them and bill it to her, even if you do it like a pp mentioned at $5 to $10 extra a week...

[MN Day Mom]

I have a kid that's "allergic" to milk, soy, corn and nuts.


But eats mac and cheese, ice cream, reese's cups, corn-based chips, etc....in other words, all the junk that's she's supposed to be allergic to.

However, she doesn't drink milk or water, only juice. No vegetables, except potatoes. Nothing but junk and fruit.

At one point she wasn't eating at all, and the mom asked if we could just give her chicken nuggets every day to make sure she eats. We told her we would not be making chicken nuggets every day just for her, and plus the other children would'nt eat if they knew she was getting nuggets every day. She sends cold chicken nuggets wrapped in foil the next morning. The kid knew they were in the frig, and whined for them all day. We told the mom that we must have medical authorization for her to send food from home...we get a random fax saying only "picky eater" and a signature. :confused: Yeah, that works.

I love allergies.

My son is allergic to Milk... well more so casein... not an allergy like the typcial, so he can have some things with milk processed or cooked in to them... but we limit the 'whens' of these items as it can change behaviors. He was addicted to milk when he was younger... as if it were a true drug, and pretty much it was... it is an opiate and attaches itself to some of the receptors in his brain.

Anyway... just wanted to share as we refer to our sons 'thing' as a milk allergy because its is easier than having to fully explain to everyone.

[Blackcat31]

PitterPatter~ Can I ask you why you agreed to waiver from the regs of the food program at all in the first place without the proper paperwork (from Dr.)? I feel so bad that you are going through this and I am sure it was something you thought you'd do to be nice but technically, you shouldn't be allowed to alter anyones diet from the food program regs without the special diet statment in hand...kwim? So adding the Pediasure (and extra amount on top of it) without prior approval was like accepting a child into care without all the required enrollment papers or immunization forms. Not having those in place ON OR BEFORE first day of care is a fineable offense here.

This is another example of how a provider feels bad, puts forth the extra effort because we care and then basically get the short end of the stick! It ****s when that happens so I have been a stickler for ALL paperwork before I will EVER make changes to someones schedule, rate, diet, ect ect...

I would never had gone ahead and made any additional purchases or changes without guaranteed clarification that the parent wasn't just making it all up. We all know how many stories we get told that turn out to not be true.

I do agree with everyone else though that what is done is done and you can chalk it up to lesson learned and write it off on your taxes.... or I would seriously consider adding the amount for reimbursment into the parents future billings so that you can recoup the money you paid out.....

her story=her responsibility. Again, sorry this mom did this to you.

[PitterPatter]

PitterPatter~ Can I ask you why you agreed to waiver from the regs of the food program at all in the first place without the proper paperwork (from Dr.)? I feel so bad that you are going through this and I am sure it was something you thought you'd do to be nice but technically, you shouldn't be allowed to alter anyones diet from the food program regs without the special diet statment in hand...kwim? So adding the Pediasure (and extra amount on top of it) without prior approval was like accepting a child into care without all the required enrollment papers or immunization forms. Not having those in place ON OR BEFORE first day of care is a fineable offense here.

This is another example of how a provider feels bad, puts forth the extra effort because we care and then basically get the short end of the stick! It ****s when that happens so I have been a stickler for ALL paperwork before I will EVER make changes to someones schedule, rate, diet, ect ect...

I would never had gone ahead and made any additional purchases or changes without guaranteed clarification that the parent wasn't just making it all up. We all know how many stories we get told that turn out to not be true.

I do agree with everyone else though that what is done is done and you can chalk it up to lesson learned and write it off on your taxes.... or I would seriously consider adding the amount for reimbursment into the parents future billings so that you can recoup the money you paid out.....

her story=her responsibility. Again, sorry this mom did this to you.

Thanks to answer your question... I was told to accept them into care without ALL of the forms.

The DCM popped out of nowhere needing care, we interviewed. She was to be state paid. I told her I had to have a certificate from the CCRR before they could be enrolled. 1 day later CCRR called and said the certificate is being mailed and this family was clear to start Monday with or without the certificate as she was informing me personally they are cleared. I had the clients in my care before the certificate arrived because the CCRR supervisor told me to allow it. I did have the persmission for medical/transportation forms and contract all signed but that was it. Even the medical forms took a month to come back and that is permitted (why i dont know but it states so right on the form)

The DCM needed care immediatley and so I had no paperwork on the Food program except for the enrollment forms signed. They knew all of this at the FP office. The food program supervisor told me I had to serve the pediasure from day 1 while waiting for the forms. Since the kid was supposed to be lactose intolerant I was told I could not give the milk. FP said I must start serving the pediasure and just submitt the form when it comes back. So I did everything as required. This is partially why when the director of the food program became invoved she was very upset with the parent herself and has apologized to me many times. Had they said I was allowed to serve the milk the kid could have had a reaction so they had to tell me to buy the pediasure.

In our area all a state paid parent needs to start care is that certificate stating they get free care and how much is to be paid to me by the parent. Once I agree to be the clients provider and they have the certificate I have to accpet them in to care. The only paper the state insists on being singed prior to the 1st day is that medical permission form. All of the other forms can be sent in later.