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    Disgusting DCM Personal Issues

    I am a registered user posting unregistered to maintain privacy. I really need some help here as I can no longer deal with this on my own. Any advise is welcome!

    I have a client that has been with me for about 1 1/2 yrs. She tells me some of her problems and I try to keep it professional but we know some of the same people so sometimes I have listened I admit it BUT I never engage or share information in return. I have listened though. When she lingers with talk I try to politely see her out. If we are in the yard when she comes her kid will fight me and not want to leave. She will have to come in and get the kid. Then she sits and talks. I ignore her and go about my way in the yard but she follows or sits. I have heard horrible stories about her abusive boyfriend which she always forgives. She will remove him from the pick up list becuse of a terrible thing he does then a week later put him back on. Off, on, off, on. I am so sick of the drama! Then she stands here and puts her poor Mother down when she can't loan her money or do something she wants. The Mother seems very nice and has picked her kid up a handful of times for her. Her Mother isn't the only person she stabs in the back but moving on... This DCM has threatened a few times to pull her 3 yr old child and when I say ok I need just a written notice and I will fill your spot she changes her mind and says she was just stressed. It's usually over issues she doesn't want to hear about her kid. This is just some background. Now the real issue.

    This DCM came to me last month saying she was pregnant. I informed her I don't have any room for another child. She said she doesn't know what to do because she doesnt really like her boyfriend and doesnt want to be tied to him but this baby will tie them together forever. She hugs me and cries. I don't know what to say so I try to be kind and tell her everything will work out. Then she informs me that her boyfriend said "kill it". She told him no never and went on for a week about how she is happy to have another and will manage and her child will have a sibling etc. But after the next weekend she changed her mind. She actually stood in my kitchen and said "I don't want to deal with this thing anymore, it's ruining my life so I am taking a pill that will kill it" I am against abortion unless it is rape or some issue like that. I keep my opinion to myself and bite my tongue. I do NOT like the conversations and I try to get her out ASAP but she's trying to hug me again! I was sickened by her! To kill a baby because a boyfriend doesn't want it doesn't fly with me, especially when neither one are using birth control!! I have lost ALL respect for her now!

    Fast forward to last week I guess this child is now dead inside of her and has been in there for a couple weeks! I don't want to ask questions as it disgusts me but how can that be? I have never heard of this but then again I don't know anyone who has had an abortion. She said it was to come out like a miscarriage after the pills killed it but it's just dead inside and not coming out. (this makes me so sad I just want to cry when she runs her mouth!) She says she can't afford to go to a Dr to get it taken out so it's just sitting in there and she's going about her days cheery as usual. I don't get this at all but I don't dare ask! I tell myself do not engage get her out asap! BUT how can this poor baby be dead laying in there for weeks and she's normal??

    Now today she tells me she was just told this baby is going to kill her because the body has the toxins that killed it and it's in her body and she could die. She's calmly telling me this and I want to puke! I tell her I have to go and I'm sorry she is having problems but she has to leave so I can leave. (I didn't really have to leave but I couldn't take it!) She says she will be having it removed tomorrow so she won't be coming to daycare. Fine good luck to ya is what I think!

    My first question is HOW do I avoid this drama? I have always discouraged a personal relationship but not in a rude manner. When she gets personal discussions going I flip it back to the education or tell her I have to get the kids on schedule, something. I don't even know if I can have her as a client anymore as her ignorance disgusts me! I try to believe each person has right to their own decissions but hers is being shoved down my throat repeatedly. I don't want to know about it and no matter how much I rush her out the door or out of my yard she still rambles! I am about to say something I will regret about this whole abortion issue! If she would drop it and never mention it again I may be able to keep her as a client (even though I have lost ALL respect) because it's her choice not mine but she has got to stop reminding me what she has done to this life!

    Question two, how is such a thing possible or is she insane? Maybe just a dramatic liar? Anyone ever hear of this? Oh my stomach is just churning here for this poor child!!
  • sharlan
    Daycare.com Member
    • May 2011
    • 6067

    #2
    I have no advice for you. I just wish I was close enough to give you a hug.

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    • Cat Herder
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 13744

      #3
      Information about the pills is at:
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      It sounds more like she was not actually pregnant and is creating a world where she is the victim. YKWIM?

      I would most likely term since this kind of parent rarely gets better....typically it continues to escalate.

      You may want to consider having your CCR&R involved with this child, maybe an at risk evaluation or something. It could not hurt to have a clinically trained person witness her behaviors and maybe get some help for the entire family.

      Good luck.
      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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      • Meyou
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2734

        #4
        I think you should try and tell her point blank that hearing about her personal life and personal medical problems makes you uncomfortable. She sounds like a crazy one! I agree with catherder that it sounds more like a game to get attention than that she was really pregnant.

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        • sahm1225
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 2060

          #5
          <<<hugs>>>

          I agree with the other poster and it sounds like she just wants the attention.. Making it sound more dramatic than it actually sounds, she thinks it will make you reach out to her sympathetically.

          I know it's hard to stop a parent once they get going and get so comfortable, but you are going to have to put your foot down. Maybe you can plan on being busy for a few days when she picks up. Or the better way would be to just point blank tell her that hearing all her personal details makes you extremely uncomfortable and you would prefer if she doesn't share it with you anymore. I would NOT mention that you are against abortion or domestic abuse, that would just be feeding to the fire (she will come back with 'oh poor me, my daycare lady hates because I HAD to have an abortion. Or 'oh poor me, my daycare lady hates me and is mean to me because i am in a an abusive relationship that I cant control).

          Best of luck!

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          • wdmmom
            Advanced Daycare.com
            • Mar 2011
            • 2713

            #6
            Sounds like a relative to my ex husband...a pathological liar. ::::::

            I don't allow personal discussions with my families nor do I allow them to "hang out" with me like this woman is. Drop your kid off, get out, get your kid, get out. My drop off and departures take less than 90 seconds each! My parents know what to expect and if there is an issue, I bring it up before they show up at the door.

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            • DBug
              Daycare Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 934

              #7
              If you don't like confrontation, you can always do what I do to get one of my "talkative" friends off the phone -- I just start rambling NON-STOP about whatever she won't be interested in ::. She's the type that will totally ignore what I've said and start in on her own drama, so I just keep talking as soon as she takes a breath. It works every time!
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              • MN Day Mom
                Daycare.com Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 246

                #8
                She could be lying for the drama or she could be being truthful. I've had a variety of loses... miscarriages, missed miscarriages and ectopics. With my missed miscarriages the baby had died weeks prior... I would go in for an ultra sound at 9 or 12 weeks to find out the babies life had stopped at week 5 or 6, but wasn't miscarring.

                I am hoping she is doing all of this just for the drama. I would have a hard time ever looking at her again otherwise.

                I have two amazing children through adoption because their birth mothers made the choice of life

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                • tulip1969
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 59

                  #9
                  This is such a sad post. I would have to term this family if it were me. I could not look that woman in the face. Her attitude and actions makes me sick! I am so sorry you have had to listen to her.
                  I you think my hands are full you should see my heart!

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                  • PitterPatter
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1507

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DBug
                    If you don't like confrontation, you can always do what I do to get one of my "talkative" friends off the phone -- I just start rambling NON-STOP about whatever she won't be interested in ::. She's the type that will totally ignore what I've said and start in on her own drama, so I just keep talking as soon as she takes a breath. It works every time!
                    Hmm that is something I have not tried as I am usually trying to avoid the conversations but I will have to try this with my DCP that insist on hanging around no matter what.

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                    • PitterPatter
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1507

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MN Day Mom
                      She could be lying for the drama or she could be being truthful. I've had a variety of loses... miscarriages, missed miscarriages and ectopics. With my missed miscarriages the baby had died weeks prior... I would go in for an ultra sound at 9 or 12 weeks to find out the babies life had stopped at week 5 or 6, but wasn't miscarring.

                      I am hoping she is doing all of this just for the drama. I would have a hard time ever looking at her again otherwise.

                      I have two amazing children through adoption because their birth mothers made the choice of life
                      I am so sorry for your loss! I would like to personally thank u for adopting your children! There is so much hate in the world today I don't see enough love. To adopt 2 children sure is LOVE! So thank u and God bless u for caring enough to love other children! Some people don't get that ALL children should be loved.

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                      • missnikki
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1033

                        #12
                        What a sad, messed up lady.

                        Whether it is true or not, I suppose I would tell her point blank, "Look, I need you to know that I do not support abortion. I have been struggling with how to tell you this since you are obviously at a difficult place right now, but I need for the discussion to end. I hope you get things sorted out very soon, butg if we are to keep a working relationship here, I need you to leave the personal info at the door. It's just too much for me."

                        And give that little one lots of love and attention since it's obviously all about her.

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                        • laundrymom
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4177

                          #13
                          Originally posted by missnikki
                          What a sad, messed up lady.

                          Whether it is true or not, I suppose I would tell her point blank, "Look, I need you to know that I do not support abortion. I have been struggling with how to tell you this since you are obviously at a difficult place right now, but I need for the discussion to end. I hope you get things sorted out very soon, butg if we are to keep a working relationship here, I need you to leave the personal info at the door. It's just too much for me."

                          And give that little one lots of love and attention since it's obviously all about her.
                          Listen to this!!!! I personally don't agree with abortion. For so many reasons. It's divided my immediate family. Forever. But those are my demons to wrestle with. Good luck to you.

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                          • MamaBear
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 665

                            #14
                            Thats sad

                            Wow... thats a heavy one. I hope shes lying, but it could be true. In that case, it would disgust me too. Crazy!

                            I used to have a mom that was A LOT of drama too. It just got to be too much for me. EVERY morning was 30 minutes of her crying and complaining about her life's dramas. I had to evenutally just tell her that I needed her to leave quicker in the mornings because it was too busy in the mornings for me to talk with her. That didnt even work and Unfortunatly I ended up terminating her daughter from my daycare because I couldnt take it anymore. I was SO much happier when she left. No more drama to hear every morning.

                            If you dont want to terminate her, you will probably just have to be very honest & straight up with her that you just cant talk to her anymore about her personal life. I'm sorry your going thru that. That is a tough one.

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                            • MommyMuffin
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 860

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered
                              I am a registered user posting unregistered to maintain privacy. I really need some help here as I can no longer deal with this on my own. Any advise is welcome!

                              I have a client that has been with me for about 1 1/2 yrs. She tells me some of her problems and I try to keep it professional but we know some of the same people so sometimes I have listened I admit it BUT I never engage or share information in return. I have listened though. When she lingers with talk I try to politely see her out. If we are in the yard when she comes her kid will fight me and not want to leave. She will have to come in and get the kid. Then she sits and talks. I ignore her and go about my way in the yard but she follows or sits. I have heard horrible stories about her abusive boyfriend which she always forgives. She will remove him from the pick up list becuse of a terrible thing he does then a week later put him back on. Off, on, off, on. I am so sick of the drama! Then she stands here and puts her poor Mother down when she can't loan her money or do something she wants. The Mother seems very nice and has picked her kid up a handful of times for her. Her Mother isn't the only person she stabs in the back but moving on... This DCM has threatened a few times to pull her 3 yr old child and when I say ok I need just a written notice and I will fill your spot she changes her mind and says she was just stressed. It's usually over issues she doesn't want to hear about her kid. This is just some background. Now the real issue.

                              This DCM came to me last month saying she was pregnant. I informed her I don't have any room for another child. She said she doesn't know what to do because she doesnt really like her boyfriend and doesnt want to be tied to him but this baby will tie them together forever. She hugs me and cries. I don't know what to say so I try to be kind and tell her everything will work out. Then she informs me that her boyfriend said "kill it". She told him no never and went on for a week about how she is happy to have another and will manage and her child will have a sibling etc. But after the next weekend she changed her mind. She actually stood in my kitchen and said "I don't want to deal with this thing anymore, it's ruining my life so I am taking a pill that will kill it" I am against abortion unless it is rape or some issue like that. I keep my opinion to myself and bite my tongue. I do NOT like the conversations and I try to get her out ASAP but she's trying to hug me again! I was sickened by her! To kill a baby because a boyfriend doesn't want it doesn't fly with me, especially when neither one are using birth control!! I have lost ALL respect for her now!

                              Fast forward to last week I guess this child is now dead inside of her and has been in there for a couple weeks! I don't want to ask questions as it disgusts me but how can that be? I have never heard of this but then again I don't know anyone who has had an abortion. She said it was to come out like a miscarriage after the pills killed it but it's just dead inside and not coming out. (this makes me so sad I just want to cry when she runs her mouth!) She says she can't afford to go to a Dr to get it taken out so it's just sitting in there and she's going about her days cheery as usual. I don't get this at all but I don't dare ask! I tell myself do not engage get her out asap! BUT how can this poor baby be dead laying in there for weeks and she's normal??

                              Now today she tells me she was just told this baby is going to kill her because the body has the toxins that killed it and it's in her body and she could die. She's calmly telling me this and I want to puke! I tell her I have to go and I'm sorry she is having problems but she has to leave so I can leave. (I didn't really have to leave but I couldn't take it!) She says she will be having it removed tomorrow so she won't be coming to daycare. Fine good luck to ya is what I think!

                              My first question is HOW do I avoid this drama? I have always discouraged a personal relationship but not in a rude manner. When she gets personal discussions going I flip it back to the education or tell her I have to get the kids on schedule, something. I don't even know if I can have her as a client anymore as her ignorance disgusts me! I try to believe each person has right to their own decissions but hers is being shoved down my throat repeatedly. I don't want to know about it and no matter how much I rush her out the door or out of my yard she still rambles! I am about to say something I will regret about this whole abortion issue! If she would drop it and never mention it again I may be able to keep her as a client (even though I have lost ALL respect) because it's her choice not mine but she has got to stop reminding me what she has done to this life!

                              Question two, how is such a thing possible or is she insane? Maybe just a dramatic liar? Anyone ever hear of this? Oh my stomach is just churning here for this poor child!!
                              To be completely honest, I would never allow parents like this into my daycare. I do not mean because she had an "abortion" but because she is crossing personal boundaries and sounds a little off. I choose the child as much as I choose the parents. This lady sounds immature and I would not want her around my daycare. JMO

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