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I had one like that and white noise is all that helped. He still sleeps with the fan on at nap time and is 2 now.
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We aren't allowed to use anything but a firm surface lying them flat on their back for sleep.
The parents can't give permission to do the wrong thing.
If this baby is going to sleep upright in a seat we would be required to get a Dr's. note saying that the child must. I don't think too many docs would want to be on the hook for that.
Once a baby can flip there really isn't much I can do to stop it. I've tried flipping them back and never had it work. Every kid I have ever had flips back in a nanosecond. You can't be in the business of repeatedly putting them back over and over. It's not realistic in this setting and it can be hard on their back, neck, head to be put back on their back repeatedly minute to minute.
If this Mom wants this baby's minute to minute be upright then she needs to do that herself. Asking someone else to make that happen is asking someone to do the wrong thing.
She needs to get real because soon enough that baby will be flipping over in her bed at night while all the adults are snooozing away. How is going to manage having her upright then?Comment
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Times clearly have changed and I will read up on the latest and share with mom. I do appreciate your input. just 5 years ago my doc encouraged me to allow my daughter to sleep in a swing at night. And when I did my research then I really found nothing in regards to SIDS so Is this a new developement? And clearly if it is a risk then it won't be happening any longer in my home.
But while I research that - can we go back to the original question.
What about wake time. etc. I mean.. again - if she isn't moving - she's crying. Any suggestions for wake time?
Also - if you go out somewhere and baby is in her car seat.. and she falls asleep. Do you take her out and put her down in pnp?
This happens daily when we bring my dd to preschool - baby falls asleep on teh drive
we come back here for nap time and she is sound asleep in the carseat.Comment
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I just checked my regulations and there isn't anything at all regarding sleeping except that they have to have 2 exits and a smoke detector while sleeping.
I'm not saying this is allowing me permission - because I'm not looking for it. If it is a risk - it won't be happening - i just wanted to see what my state had for nap time rules.Comment
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I use a sleep sheep with my preemies who have an exaggerated startle response. It has a Velcro loop to attach it to her pnp.
They have been FANTASTIC!!!
another helpful link:
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Can you transfer her the pnp without waking her? I'm assuming no. I would not allow her to sleep in the carseat anymore. I'll see if I can find the link to the research that was passed around last fall.
Have you allowed her to scream a bit to see if she calms down while awake? This is where the DCPs of my termed baby and I came to blows and eventual termination. They didn't want her to cry at all, however I was also not allowed to hold her all day. Tell me how that works? So I had to entertain her all day while awake. So for her it wasn't always movement, but I had to be in her face interacting with her 100% of her awake time or she'd scream. There were just times I couldn't do that and she'd just have to cry. Other people needed feeding, diaper changes, hugs, etc.Comment
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New research yes, when kids arrive here sleeping in car seat I take them out immediately and transfer to bed. The only place they sleep here is in their bed. I would carefully and compassionately talk to mom " I am sorry mom, i know you are scared, i know you are absolutely terrified, but i cannot nap her in a seat new data has shown an increased risk of sids for infants sleeping anywhere except a firm flat surface it is hard for me to talk to you about this but i have to do everything in my power to provide the safest environment i can for these kids. I know the pack and play scares you but it the safest place for her. Why dont we go ahead and put a plan in place to give her the best tools we know of to keep her safe? First, safe sleep environment, no bumpers, blankets or toys, a good tight fitting sheet and a cooler sleep environment. 61-66 degrees is optimal. A baby who is too warm, has a higher risk for SIDS. Use a sleep sack if needed but no blanket second, lots of tummy time while awake, yhat will strengthen her muscles and lets get her turning over . Once a child can roll over it cuts the sids risk dramatically. I know it's scary but I must follow the latest research and guidelines. I hope you understand. "
I don't even have a swing here. It's too much of a crutch for me, personally. I would be tempted to use it too much. I would personally provide her with a full tummy, dry dipe and safe sleep area, and begin the teaching of self soothing. The startle reflex is a GOOD thing. Babies who startle easy have a lower risk of SIDS. Research is hard because for every bit of data a life has ended. It's an unfair research process because data is gathered from grieving families, it's such an ugly reality. Please rethink the seat. If you want pm me I'll call you, I'll find you and mom training and support. I'll do anything. If it saves one child, I'll do it. Sending love.....
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What other kinds of carriers do you have besides the sling? What position is she in, in the sling? Does she hate it all? Or just certain positions?
I've found that a babywrap helps because you can put her in so many positions that there's bound to be one she likes. It takes longer to put on, but if it gives you both peace and quiet it's worth it.
What do the parents do at home? How does she sleep with them?
I know you don't want to put her in another room, but is there a quiet dark room for her to sleep in? Maybe if she gets a few good solid sleeps in, she'll feel better. I know I can't miss out on sleep and be happy the next day.
I would think that swaddling or one of those armless swaddling straight jacket things. (can't remember the name) Would cut down on the startle response. If she startles, and her arms can move, she wakes up.. but, if she can't move, she's only waking partially and can fall back asleep.Comment
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Found one. This specifically talks about premature infants but there was also a study done on fullterm and otherwise healthy babies that I can't find.
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As for teaching self soothing, let her fuss. Give her love, let her fuss, over and over. She will fall asleep eventually. Crying does not increase SIDS risk. Let her fuss a bit if you know she is dry fed and sleepy. It may take days but you will be doing her a favor, self soothing will last her entire life.Comment
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I have to add, if mom fights you on the safe sleep position, I would terminate care the liability is too great.Comment
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Can you tell this is my first daycare baby?
I've had 4 children of my own. All four of them had me terrified of SIDS. I never let them CIO, I wore them all the time, I co-slept, I bf way beyond the recommended time, never allowed them near smoke or people that have smoked and have smoke on their clothes..
and the list goes on and on.
So this being my first dc baby I am feeling all of those same things. Letting her cry is really hard for me.. although it IS getting a little easier. When another child needs my attention I just have to let her fuss a bit. She just doesn't stop though - she gets so incredibly worked up. Breaks my heart.Comment
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I was the same way, at my safe sleep training, a statement was made, a crying baby is a living baby.
SIDS is very scary because no matter how careful you are, it still happens. It is an evil reality that makes no sense. But hopefully learning, preparing, doing all we know to do will be enough. I am thinking of you.....Comment
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