CCIS if Not Licensed

[momofboys]

I agree, it is my business and more importantly MY HOME. Who are they to say? NYS is ALL about getting into your business. That is why so many people are beginning to relocate. There are stipulations and extra taxes on everything.

It is my hope they would not prefer me. There are always those people out there that like to make others miserable because they fell on hard times. Luckily I have never been faced with it.

I don't have to pay for getting DSS childcare payments. But there is still a 2 wk wait to get your money and of course if the person gets kicked of the program you don't get notified until after the services are provided.

I'm sorry! I hope they don't prefer you for your sake!

[mac60]

In NY it is discrimination. They could turn it into a low income type of deal. They would have a case because they have the ability to pay but you wont let them because they get welfare. Like a said in a previous post a women in my town was sued by the family and DSS. She lost.

In NY also if we get a child in a wheel chair who wants to come here we can't deny them. We have to re-do our home with our own money to accomodate for the child. Build ramps, make the bathroom accessible, make sure hallways are wide enough and the list goes on.

To be safe I would make up an excuse. Do you have a lawyer you can consult with?

This is absolutely assinine. I couldn't afford to do their to my own home if it needed done for me and my husband, let along a dc kid. Perfect examples of why I would never do this job and be licensed. The rules and regs are simply stupid.

[kiddiecare]

Melissa Anne, What is your policy on payments? Do you make parents pay in advance? If so tell Grandpa that even if he gets assistance he has to prepay like all other clients and when/i the state pays you he will get reimbursed. In Oregon it is illegal to discriminate however you can deny your services by stating that you are not equiped to care for a special needs childs, I also have now told our local ccrr (child care resource and referal) that i do not want dhs clients refered to me anymore. It sounds like you'e been having issues with 'Grandpa' for a while now, maybe you could send out a notice stating that starting in Jan you will only be accepting full time clients and that all clients will be required to pay in advance of care (if you dont do that already). Or simply terminate the childcare contract with him, if you've had late payments ect state that as a reason or just say that the hours and days he needs is not to your best interest. Hopefully if you're wanting to term he will show up late soon or not pay and you can term on the spot. I like the idea of telling him that he will have to pay for all extra costs including gas and your time to do what needs to be done in order to recieve payments from the state IF you were agreeable to that but at this time you are not able to recieve assistance payments. Good lcuk

[gbcc]

This is absolutely assinine. I couldn't afford to do their to my own home if it needed done for me and my husband, let along a dc kid. Perfect examples of why I would never do this job and be licensed. The rules and regs are simply stupid.

I often wish I had never became registered. It's too late now. I have a good reputation and I live in a small town. They would definately find out if I turned in my lisence and continued doing child care.

[momma2girls]

My experience with state funded children, you actually receive quite a bit less than your normal rate you would get paid from someone not on assistance!!!

[melissa ann]

Grandpa said that he has $35 deductible or copay. Does he pay that directly to me? Because he said that by CCIS paying $12/day (I"m not sure how he knows that, I was told when I spoke to CCIS that they pay anywhere from 9-12/day) that I would actually make more money. The 3 day min rate(what I charge) is $54. But if CCIS pays $12/day which comes to $36 and he pays $35 that would be $71. I assumed they would deduct his $35 from my total amount. I don't understand this at all.
I did call CCIS today. I did speak to them last week when they called. But, I questioned the Dec 7 date that grandpa spoke about because I said this child has been with me since March 2008. Well, apparantly there is a 7 month waiting list and Dec 7 is the first day that this will take affect. They will go back to that date. Why didn't grandpa mention this 7 months ago? But, I do have the option of refusing. But I must tell grandpa so that if wants to get assistance he has to find someone else. He has 30 days to find someone.
My hubby thinks I should bail on this. My MIL says I should do it.
I believe I will tell grandpa tomorrow that I don't want to participate in the program. I told him last week, what all I would have to do just for him to get it. I have the kids all day, when can I even go get this done? My hubby would have to walk to work so I can take our van and find someone to watch the kids while I"m gone.

[kiddiecare]

We are unable to charge a dhs client more than a normal client so if grandpa is saying you'll get more than you normally charge be very careful! Co-pays are to be paid by the parent every month, there is a spot on the billing form that you will mail out at the end of the month asking if the parent has paid thier co-pay, (at least here they do) If it hasnt been paid and only promised do not lie for the parents! For any reason! Here if the parent doesnt pay they can loose their benefits. Only you can decide if its worth doing, honestly your husbad lives with you and not the mil (im assuming) If your man is saying not to, I'd listen, And my personal advice (i'm not against state help) is don't do it, I've had nothing but problems with EVERY client I have had on assistance. Yes even some that arent however the major ones have been the ones going through the state.

Tell Grandpa that his hours and days no longer work for you daycare and family and that you are not able to accept state assisted payments. Give him a two week termination notice and make sure that all fees are paid, do NOT let grandpa tell you that since he was accepted through the state as of Dec 7th that you will have to get all but his $35 co-pay from them, when he started daycare the state was not involved and the contract you have is with him. If he wants to keep things the way they are without more care and the state then id tell him that as of the 1st of january your policy pf payment will be in advance of care. See what he has to say to that, from all of your previous posts it really sounds as if you have been taken advantage of by this family..Good Luck

[melissa ann]

So the co-pay is paid monthly? grandpa said he had to pay the $35/weekly.

[kiddiecare]

In Oregon the co-pays are monthly, maybe grandpa actually has a larger co-pay but is choosing to pay you weekly to break it up? It seriously is a pain in the ass and i've stopped taking these clients, first its not fair to my other clients that are required to pay in advance of care to let state assisted not have too and its to hard to collect what is owed to you, have you talked to the state what their policy is on paying if the child isnt there? Here they will be a certain number of days for the child being gone but if they are out longer than that then you lose out on the money unless you have a contract with the parent that says they will pay any amounts that the state doesnt for any reason.

[wejo928]

CCIS in Pa

I have been receiveing payments thru CCIS in PA for over 10 years as a relative/family provider for my unlicenced daycare. CCIS pays you monthly but parents pay their co-pays weekly on Monday for the week they are starting. If it is not paid I must notify CCIS and after 2 weeks of non-payment they are put on hold. So no payment for me till they pay.
The copays are taken out of your monthly check.
They do not allow 2 weeks notice. The parents can change childcare providers without any notice to us unless you count CCIS asking if their copays are paid up to date. But in my contract it requires them to pay even if CCIS does not.
We do get paid for days children are absent up to 10 days in a row. After wich time I have to notify CCIS and they are disenrolled from my center.
I get paid 63 days for care after parents have a baby to keep their spots open so they can come back. The parents still have to pay copay during that time but if the children do nto attend I do not.
They do pay quite a bit less but I only have to charge the same if I am a licenced provider and the pay is greater.
Just be carefull. I got screwed big time.
If the parents are on a call in bases and do not call in I do to get paid for all days. nThey must call in before the week starts.
If they are on a set schedule and the parents bring the child extra cause their schedule changes then you will not be paid for all days till their schedule is the same for a month straight.
I can charge extra for food, transportaion and field-trips. N
But all payments parents make to me must be applied towrds their currant copays.

To protect myself my contracts are very long and I explain everything very well. They must pay for all days CCIS does not pay for, and must be paid within 1 week from when I present the paperwork.
All payments must be in cash or money orders.
I also require all copays paid by Monday 12 noon or I report. After they are suspended and still have to [ay me by contract they do nto let it hapen again.

I had to pay $36 for FBI fingerfrints and a $20 a yr fee for my criminal & state clearance 1 time a year. Plus they cut our pays big time. With all the changes I started chargeing for meals & snacks and parents can choose to bring diapers or bring them & wipes.
I have 1 parent who pays $5 week for 2 children, another $% for 1 child and another $40 for 1 child.t goes by their income but this last year with the PA budget being delayed was the only time their was a problem with the state paying.

I hope this helps some.

We can choose to take CCIS or Title 20 if we choose to or not. Right now there is a 2 year waiting list and no new people being taken.
I meet with the parents ahead of time and am very strict with what comes in and out of my house. Diapers & wipes from store not home. Food also from store. I do not want roaches or bedbuggs.

I had 1 person bring their baby in a carseat & set it on my sofa. When I lifted it up I saw a roach crawl out. I went nuts and would not allow anything in.

Now all children come without anything but the coat & clothes on their back & a pacifier.
All coats are stored in ziploc bags and shoes also. They get slippers on here till they leave. In summer sandels. I buy each child 2 outfits from thrift shop that parents must rembusre me for to keep as back-up. I send them home in a clean outfit if it gets messy and I wash the dirty outfit till needed.
Some parents complained at first till they saw the Gap & Old Navy outfits I buy and actally prefer to give us money to get clothing as they grow. I am not saying this is because they are on CCis. It could be form private pay also.
We provide our own carseats for transportation and blankets form wrapping the children in when being taken in & out & kept at my house.

[STARSHINE852@aol.com]

Do I have to accept childcare from him with assistance or do I have the option of refusing? Could he say it is discrimation? I'm in PA and I don't want to have to go through all of this. It's my business and I should be able to run it as I want.

I live in PA you DO NOT have to accept CCIS. What you say is you are not CCIS qualified. Thats what I said at first.If they ask why, just tell them you don't want to go through the hassle of paper work.

[Unregistered]

Payment

I was taking Ccis for this girl, she was working full time and paid 32$ a wk. well here she lost her job but I never knew she kept bring the kid. Now Ccis is calling me, will I have to pay them back since it shouldnt of been paid to me i guess or what?

[Unregistered]

what i have read infuriates me!!!!!

I stumbled across this thread while looking for information about putting my children in a daycare. After reading what i have read here, I will NOT be putting my children in daycare! Everyone knows that it takes money to make money.... You people are getting paid. What does it matter HOW or WHO is paying you? Not everyone makes $20+ an hr. When you people are charging parents $150-$400 a wk per kid what do you think is going to happen. Most people can not afford that. So they start looking for help. Because they need to work to support their family. Than the see a thread like this. I would not trust a single one of you with my children. There is no way i would feel confident that you people wouldn't be taking your extremely selfish behavior out on my children.

I do understand that you need to be paid. I would be extremely upset if i did not get paid for doing my job. However as long as i was getting my money i would not care who was giving it to me.

I also understand that there are people out there that get assistance who don't deserve it.
And people who take advantage of the help that is offered. However all of you are being the definition of discrimination. Not everyone getting assistance are like that. Some of us just hit a hard spot. Like losing a successful career (that they no longer can do) due to unforeseen health issues. Its because of people like ALL of you that they have laws against discrimination.


Another thing is people who should be caring for children should be people who love being around children. NOT people like ALL OF YOU who only care about who is giving them money.

[Unregistered]

1. This thread is old. You don't even know if any of these posters still do daycare.
2. Daycare is a business.
3. Not all of the money they get is theirs to keep. It costs money to have the space, equipment, food and supplies needed.
4. Some of the problems are with the system, not the families. Do you work without getting paid?
5. See 2. Daycare is a business. It is work. People deserve to be paid. Without begging for said pay!