Any One Try The Bye By Binky Method For Taking Away Soothers

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  • Cat Herder
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 13744

    #16
    Originally posted by Joyce
    Some infants NEED that ****ing action even if they are NOT a preemie. I don't advocate letting it be a crutch, and would probably start weening it away by 8 or 9 months, but I completely disagree with flat out not allowing it for any but preemies.
    I am sure that works great for you in your program. I don't allow them in mine. I ONLY enroll newborn infants and have not had an issue with this policy at all.

    The Hospitals don't pop them in infants mouths at birth here anymore. It is not as common and is not considered a NEED for most infants in my experience.

    Here they are viewed as a potential Infectious Disease/RSV Issue in Group Childcare by both Pediatricians and Childcare Centers.

    You are entitled to your opinion as am I. I am confident in my view.
    - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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    • Lucy
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 1654

      #17
      Originally posted by Catherder
      I am sure that works great for you in your program. I don't allow them in mine. I ONLY enroll newborn infants and have not had an issue with this policy at all.

      The Hospitals don't pop them in infants mouths at birth here anymore. It is not as common and is not considered a NEED for most infants in my experience.

      Here they are viewed as a potential Infectious Disease/RSV Issue in Group Childcare by both Pediatricians and Childcare Centers.

      You are entitled to your opinion as am I. I am confident in my view.
      You are right - everybody gets an opinion. I wasn't saying yours was wrong, I was juts adding my 2 cents. A little sensitive perhaps?

      To clarify, I do NOT let them use one past about 8 months. And NEVER all day long. For newborns, it would be available to soothe when they are crying. I really feel that it is a natural human need for newborns to have that ****ing motion. But at probably 4-5 months, it becomes just to get them to relax at nap time. By 7-8 months, I try not to give it at all. Believe me, I am TOTALLY opposed to using them over about 8-9 months! If a toddler shows up to daycare with one, I take it away and they don't see it till they leave. I hate binkies for anything but newborns.

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      • elle73
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 66

        #18
        Thanks for all the respones everyone, I think we might do cold turkey because I have noticed lately that my son doesn't need his soother as much as he used to, he can go all day without it and only takes it if he is tired or upset.

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        • nannyde
          All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
          • Mar 2010
          • 7320

          #19
          Originally posted by Catherder
          I am sure that works great for you in your program. I don't allow them in mine. I ONLY enroll newborn infants and have not had an issue with this policy at all.

          The Hospitals don't pop them in infants mouths at birth here anymore. It is not as common and is not considered a NEED for most infants in my experience.

          Here they are viewed as a potential Infectious Disease/RSV Issue in Group Childcare by both Pediatricians and Childcare Centers.

          You are entitled to your opinion as am I. I am confident in my view.
          No binkies here. I have had many kids that use them at home which works out great for the parents until it's time to wean. I hear about it but it's just another "what happens at home stays at home" deal.
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          • Live and Learn
            Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 956

            #20
            Originally posted by Catherder

            No binkies in daycare.

            Only exception Preemies with feeding/****ing delay/issues.

            That is a HOME only item.
            My policy exactly.
            Never had a paci child here.
            I call them baby corks. The parents want/need them more than the children.

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            • elle73
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2010
              • 66

              #21
              I guess I was worried about this issue for nothing , I've noticed the past week that my son has been going pretty much all day without his soother, this morning he came downstairs without his soother and blanket and when I asked him where they were(because he normally sits for about 1/2hr with both of them when he first wakes up)he said to me "no mama stay upstairs" and hasn't asked for either of them since.

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              • QualiTcare
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1502

                #22
                Originally posted by Joyce
                Some infants NEED that ****ing action even if they are NOT a preemie. I don't advocate letting it be a crutch, and would probably start weening it away by 8 or 9 months, but I completely disagree with flat out not allowing it for any but preemies.
                i agree. ever read or heard about freud's oral stage of development? it doesn't even matter what you think about freud - this particular theory is supported by evidence.

                fetuses start ****ing their thumbs in the womb. i have an ultrasound pic of my son ****ing his thumb. freud says if infants don't get enough of that "****ing action" they'll have an oral fixation later on - whether it be eating too much, smoking, or constantly chewing on things (nails, pens) etc.

                it's not so far fetched.

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                • QualiTcare
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1502

                  #23
                  i told my daughter we were giving all her pacis to the babies bc she was a big girl and didn't need them. she went around the house looking for one and found one under the couch! that happened a couple of times so we had a few relapses, but it really wasn't that hard. the whole "big girl/big boy" thing seems to work pretty well.

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #24
                    Originally posted by QualiTcare
                    i agree. ever read or heard about freud's oral stage of development? it doesn't even matter what you think about freud - this particular theory is supported by evidence.

                    fetuses start ****ing their thumbs in the womb. i have an ultrasound pic of my son ****ing his thumb. freud says if infants don't get enough of that "****ing action" they'll have an oral fixation later on - whether it be eating too much, smoking, or constantly chewing on things (nails, pens) etc.

                    it's not so far fetched.
                    Of course we have heard about oral stage of development. I've got thousands of dollars worth of **** toys for the babies here. They are also here nine of the twenty four hours a day. They can get their **** on a binky for fifteen hours a day at home.

                    I'll tell ya what.. the breast feeding moms LOVE the no binky here deal. When they get their baby home they get DRAINED real quick like. They know the difference of breast feeding on the weekend and what it's like during the week. They LOVE the instant relief they get when power ****er latches on.

                    The ones that aren't breast feeding also dig the no binky here. They have some PEACE AND QUIET allllllllllll the way home and at night. I promise you ... after the age of six months... there's not a single one of the parent binky users that would WANT them to use it here. That's for sure.
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                    • QualiTcare
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1502

                      #25
                      Originally posted by nannyde
                      Of course we have heard about oral stage of development. I've got thousands of dollars worth of **** toys for the babies here. They are also here nine of the twenty four hours a day. They can get their **** on a binky for fifteen hours a day at home.

                      I'll tell ya what.. the breast feeding moms LOVE the no binky here deal. When they get their baby home they get DRAINED real quick like. They know the difference of breast feeding on the weekend and what it's like during the week. They LOVE the instant relief they get when power ****er latches on.

                      The ones that aren't breast feeding also dig the no binky here. They have some PEACE AND QUIET allllllllllll the way home and at night. I promise you ... after the age of six months... there's not a single one of the parent binky users that would WANT them to use it here. That's for sure.
                      what's a "**** toy" exactly? and - what's the difference between allowing "**** toys" and pacifiers?

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                      • nannyde
                        All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 7320

                        #26
                        Originally posted by QualiTcare
                        what's a "**** toy" exactly? and - what's the difference between allowing "**** toys" and pacifiers?
                        **** toys are infant toys that they **** on. I have a huge collection of really nice baby toys.
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                        • Blackcat31
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 36124

                          #27
                          I think that those children that need the extra ****ling should simply use what God gave them...their fingers or their thumb. It is natural and has it's own way of eliminating the habit later by forcing the child to remove their thumb or finger so they can play with whatever toy or activity happening. This also occurs naturally as they grow and develop so there isn't the issue with weaning in most cases.

                          I find no real hard evidence that suggests a man-made or artificial nipple is necessary for any child (except possibly preemies for obvious reasons). IMHO, pacifiers are simply an artificial means in which to provide some sort of stimulation to the child in which he/she already has the capacity of doing on their own (thumb).

                          Freud also states that "An infant can remain fixated on this stage if the mother overindulges her infant's ****ing desire." which to me says pacifiers are bad not necessary.

                          If pacifiers were necesssary, children would be born with a binky attached. Instead they are born with thumbs and fingers to get the job done for the short amount of time the child spend in the oral fixation stage.

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                          • wdmmom
                            Advanced Daycare.com
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2713

                            #28
                            My daycare is a NO BINKY ZONE. I have 1 infant that comes in with it clipped to his bib everyday. He doesn't get it here and he couldn't care less. He's the same happy baby with or without a plug.

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                            • Lucy
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1654

                              #29
                              Originally posted by nannyde
                              I've got thousands of dollars worth of **** toys for the babies here.
                              How does one spend thousandS of dollars on "**** toys"? I love me some babies, but to spend $2,000 or more for them to **** on something? ::

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                              • QualiTcare
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1502

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blackcat31
                                I think that those children that need the extra ****ling should simply use what God gave them...their fingers or their thumb. It is natural and has it's own way of eliminating the habit later by forcing the child to remove their thumb or finger so they can play with whatever toy or activity happening. This also occurs naturally as they grow and develop so there isn't the issue with weaning in most cases.

                                I find no real hard evidence that suggests a man-made or artificial nipple is necessary for any child (except possibly preemies for obvious reasons). IMHO, pacifiers are simply an artificial means in which to provide some sort of stimulation to the child in which he/she already has the capacity of doing on their own (thumb).

                                Freud also states that "An infant can remain fixated on this stage if the mother overindulges her infant's ****ing desire." which to me says pacifiers are bad not necessary.

                                If pacifiers were necesssary, children would be born with a binky attached. Instead they are born with thumbs and fingers to get the job done for the short amount of time the child spend in the oral fixation stage.
                                i personally HATE it worse than a pacifier when kids **** on their thumbs. infants is one thing, but i disagree that kids naturally stop ****ing their thumbs to engage in activities. i've not seen a lot of 4-5 year olds have pacifiers, but i've seen a lot of 4-5 year olds **** on their thumbs who god only knows where they've been. you can take a pacifier away - you can't take a thumb away unless you wanna cut it off.

                                yeah, too much can be detrimental also - that's why they're meant to be weaned away. i just mentioned not enough bc that was the discussion at the time. the only way a child would get TOO much is if the parents can't take it away, or the bottle, or the breast, etc. that's another story though.

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