Falls Asleep Every Where....?? What To Do

[daycare]

So I have posted about this DCB some time ago. He falls asleep every where. I discussed it with the parents, but only to find out that the boy does not go to bed unitl 11 or 12 at night. He does NOT take naps on the weekends and pretty much has the same schedule as mom and dad. he goes to bed when they go to bed..

I tried my best to talk to the parents about getting him to bed earlier and not letting him stay up so late..... Nothing seems to get through to them.

Today the DCB fell asleep while sitting on the wall waiting for his turn to use the bathroom...Last week he fell asleep on the floor while doing a puzzle.

The major issue is that he sleeps ALL day, I often can't wake him and therefore he skips meals. On friday, he slept from 10am until almost 5:30pm. I tired to wake him for snack and lunch with no luck..

I feel like talking to the parents again is not going to do anything at all. I have already given them handouts on sleep deprived children and etc.


What would you guys do....

[TBird]

I feel like talking to the parents again is not going to do anything at all. I have already given them handouts on sleep deprived children and etc.

He's not really sleep deprived....he just sleeps all day and stays up all night. I would definitely talk to the parents again....I'm usually thinking ahead to Kindergarten, ya know???

[daycare]

he's 3 and I think that they feel he still has time before they have to tighten things up at home. i feel he is sleep deprived because the kid looks like he is about to fall on his face when he is he most days. I have never allowed for him to miss meals before, so he was forced to stay awake here and eat his food or to go to the park and etc.

[Kaddidle Care]

How sad - it sounds like his clock is backwards.

He's missing out on all the fun - maybe you could mention that to his folks?

[TBird]

he's 3 and I think that they feel he still has time before they have to tighten things up at home. i feel he is sleep deprived because the kid looks like he is about to fall on his face when he is he most days. I have never allowed for him to miss meals before, so he was forced to stay awake here and eat his food or to go to the park and etc.

If he's 3, I feel like that's no time at all before Kindergarten. We all know how fast time goes by in "kid years". Well, all you can do is keep telling them but I know how bad you must feel for the poor little one. You probably feel miserable letting him sleep and miserable waking him up. Hang in there...he needs you!

[daycare]

Hes missing out on everything. LEssons, art, play ground, meals. The parents know but don't care. I just got to thinking. I'm on the food program and if he doesn't eat then I'm in violation of contract with them right?
Idk??

[Unregistered]

Hes missing out on everything. Lessons, art, play ground, meals. The parents know but don't care. I just got to thinking. I'm on the food program and if he doesn't eat then I'm in violation of contract with them right?
Idk??

Contact your food rep. and explain the situation. They may be able to help you and help you determine what to do about not claiming him even though he is there. Hopefully he is getting 3 meals at night since he is sleeping all day. What worries me are the parents up all night with him or just him-how scary for a 3 year old to be up all night by himself!

[daycare]

Contact your food rep. and explain the situation. They may be able to help you and help you determine what to do about not claiming him even though he is there. Hopefully he is getting 3 meals at night since he is sleeping all day. What worries me are the parents up all night with him or just him-how scary for a 3 year old to be up all night by himself!

good points here...
I thought about the all night thing myself. I was told by mom and dad that he goes to be when they go to bed, whatever time they may be. Once they came in and said oh we had a long night last night with work (DCP both own their own company and work from home a lot) so we were up until almost 2am. YES including DCB. I was like what are you kidding me. They said no and I gave them the most evil glare and said nothing.

I did contact my food rep about an hour ago but had to leave a message....

[Cat Herder]

My answer is probably not the popular one, but it is a truthful one.

I personally would feed him a big, hearty breakfast and put him to bed immediately after arrival to wake naturally.

I would do this is in another child proofed room, most likely in a toddler bed that I set up just for him so he can get out and come find me just like my own children. (I have seen me do it )

I would document his schedule on a daily sheet to be sent home. IF and WHEN his parents questioned the naptimes we could continue the discussion about his sleep patterns and home time schedules.

IMHO, My job is "child care" as in I care for the immediate needs of children. This little boy needs good nutrition and sleep.

From my point of view, There are no laws to mandate parenting, and in my experience the more you push the issue, the more the parents will push back. Is it fair/right/just? No. Does it happen all the time? YES.

My advice, as always, pick your battles wisely (separate parental issues from child issues in your head), control what you can (your house) and find the simplest solution (child is sleepy = let child sleep).

I don't intend to be condescending if that is how it come across... It is meant to be funny and true. Don't sweat the stuff you cannot control... That is all.

[SilverSabre25]

My answer is probably not the popular one, but it is a truthful one.

I personally would feed him a big, hearty breakfast and put him to bed immediately after arrival to wake naturally.

I would do this is in another child proofed room, most likely in a toddler bed that I set up just for him so he can get out and come find me just like my own children. (I have seen me do it )

I would document his schedule on a daily sheet to be sent home. IF and WHEN his parents questioned the naptimes we could continue the discussion about his sleep patterns and home time schedules.

IMHO, My job is "child care" as in I care for the immediate needs of children. This little boy needs good nutrition and sleep.

From my point of view, There are no laws to mandate parenting, and in my experience the more you push the issue, the more the parents will push back. Is it fair/right/just? No. Does it happen all the time? YES.

My advice, as always, pick your battles wisely (separate parental issues from child issues in your head), control what you can (your house) and find the simplest solution (child is sleepy = let child sleep).

I don't intend to be condescending if that is how it come across... It is meant to be funny and true. Don't sweat the stuff you cannot control... That is all.

I think Catherder hit the nail on the head...this is exactly what I would do. Poor boy needs sleep to help his brain and body develop properly. If he's not getting it at home, he needs to get it at your house.

[daycare]

My answer is probably not the popular one, but it is a truthful one.

I personally would feed him a big, hearty breakfast and put him to bed immediately after arrival to wake naturally.

I would do this is in another child proofed room, most likely in a toddler bed that I set up just for him so he can get out and come find me just like my own children. (I have seen me do it )

I would document his schedule on a daily sheet to be sent home. IF and WHEN his parents questioned the naptimes we could continue the discussion about his sleep patterns and home time schedules.

IMHO, My job is "child care" as in I care for the immediate needs of children. This little boy needs good nutrition and sleep.

From my point of view, There are no laws to mandate parenting, and in my experience the more you push the issue, the more the parents will push back. Is it fair/right/just? No. Does it happen all the time? YES.

My advice, as always, pick your battles wisely (separate parental issues from child issues in your head), control what you can (your house) and find the simplest solution (child is sleepy = let child sleep).

I don't intend to be condescending if that is how it come across... It is meant to be funny and true. Don't sweat the stuff you cannot control... That is all.

NAHH you dont sound condescending at all... I feel that you are dead on here. I have also thought about this, but you know when you do think about doing somehting out of your normal routine, it makes me stratch your head and really think is the right thing to do..... I can't have any of the children in any of my bedrooms. I did not add them to my rooms to be used for daycare when I started it years ago. I could change it with licensing, but it would be a huge headache to go through. They would have to come out and reinspect and then approve it or not. I really don't want to take away any space from my own children, so a bedroom would not be the option... However, it might work if i put him in my front room on a cot..
Would you tell the parents that you are doing this, or would you just do it?

thanks for your response and hey where have you been?? I have not seen your post in a while.....

[SilverSabre25]

NAHH you dont sound condescending at all... I feel that you are dead on here. I have also thought about this, but you know when you do think about doing somehting out of your normal routine, it makes me stratch your head and really think is the right thing to do..... I can't have any of the children in any of my bedrooms. I did not add them to my rooms to be used for daycare when I started it years ago. I could change it with licensing, but it would be a huge headache to go through. They would have to come out and reinspect and then approve it or not. I really don't want to take away any space from my own children, so a bedroom would not be the option... However, it might work if i put him in my front room on a cot..
Would you tell the parents that you are doing this, or would you just do it?

thanks for your response and hey where have you been?? I have not seen your post in a while.....

Personally, I would just do it. But, for me, a lot of what happens at daycare stays at daycare.

[daycare]

Personally, I would just do it. But, for me, a lot of what happens at daycare stays at daycare.

i do let him sleep, trust me, I never want to keep a child awake if I can help it. Like I said before, he has missed meals, kept us from being able to go to the park and other things, becuse he is always sleeping. This poor guy is just over the top exhausted.

One of the big things that gets me is that I teach a program here and then his mom often complains that she doesnt see him bringing home art or work like the other kids...UMMM hello your kid was sleeping all day and didnt get to particiapte ...

[Cat Herder]

NAHH you dint sound condescending at all... I feel that you are dead on here. I have also thought about this, but you know when you do think about doing something out of your normal routine, it makes me stretch your head and really think is the right thing to do..... I can't have any of the children in any of my bedrooms. I did not add them to my rooms to be used for daycare when I started it years ago. I could change it with licensing, but it would be a huge headache to go through. They would have to come out and reinspect and then approve it or not. I really don't want to take away any space from my own children, so a bedroom would not be the option... However, it might work if i put him in my front room on a cot..
Would you tell the parents that you are doing this, or would you just do it?

thanks for your response and hey where have you been?? I have not seen your post in a while.....

I was on vacation with my family...no phones, TV's or Internet allowed for 9 days. This was the first time it actually hurt me a little :::: I think I whined as much as the teens....

I do tell my parents when I let them sleep in an "unapproved" area (dark, quiet, separate) and I usually get a huge "Thank you!!" for it. Most of my parents think the regs take things a bit too far and like that I am willing to go a bit out of my way to meet their children's needs.

Here the lights have to stay on and everyone is supposed to stay in the same room. Not always in the kids best interest so I give myself a bit of wiggle room from time to time. I have used my foyer with sheets over the window many times with a box fan for white noise.

I like that room since they only they have to cross the living room, which is already child/dog proofed.

[daycare]

I was on vacation with my family...no phones, TV's or Internet allowed for 9 days. This was the first time it actually hurt me a little :::: I think I whined as much as the teens....

I do tell my parents when I let them sleep in an "unapproved" area (dark, quiet, separate) and I usually get a huge "Thank you!!" for it. Most of my parents think the regs take things a bit too far and like that I am willing to go a bit out of my way to meet their children's needs.

Here the lights have to stay on and everyone is supposed to stay in the same room. Not always in the kids best interest so I give myself a bit of wiggle room from time to time. I have used my foyer with sheets over the window many times with a box fan for white noise.

I like that room since they only they have to cross the living room, which is already child/dog proofed.

sounds like a blast...hope that you got in some good R&R. The no electronics part would probably get to me too after a while...i love my iphone games....

welcome back..