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  • PitterPatter
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1507

    I Am Such A Bad Mom! :(

    I know Moms are human and make mistakes but I made a bad 1 today.

    I had 3 DCKs here and my 9 yr old son who was doing homework. The kids all had a tool kit each and was playing with them when daycare mom ( a state paid client through welfare) came to pick up her 2 kids. I told the kids "Mommy is ready to take u home so please put the tool kits back". They ignored me and kept playing. The Mom waited a few minutes and told them to put them away. They again just ignored her. She laughed it off and said they don't listen very well and just sat there. I told her they are usually good listeners for me but then again they are new here. (3rd week)

    She finally got up after a few more minutes of sitting and staring at the kids, and got the coats and told them again and this time they said no and kept playing. She ignored their response and sat down on the floor. I'm thinking OK??? Should I speak up? Then the brother (2yrs) took the sisters (3yrs) hard hat and they fought, literally. The Mom just held the boy on her lap with his feet still in reach of the sister he starts kicking her. The mom looked at and and laughed and said "stop it" with a giggle but was still allowing him to continue to kick. (personally i would remove him from reach) I sat there shocked and not knowing what to do as they are her children and once a daycare mom signs a child out I don't like to interfere. The girl threw the hat, Mom stood up let the boy go and he went and played more.

    We are now going on the family sitting in the house 20-25 minutes after sign out (this is common for her as she likes to tell me gossip and such but, i dont like it unless we need to have a discussion about the children. I don't care to hear she said he said especially about people I don't even know??). I speak up and say "well guys I gotta go start dinner so let me help u clean up the toys." As I start to get up my son says no Mommy I will help them. He picks up all the boys toys and starts on the girls. He tries to take the kit to put it away and she grabs it and screams at him (she doesnt do this with me, shes usually sweet) he told her he was putting it away for her, she's screaming and pulling it. The mom just stands there. I told my son to let go and she will go put it away. He says he just wants to help. The Mother NOW speaks up and says "Hey let go she will put it away" Hmmmm I may have took it wrong but I don't like clients telling MY kid what to do especially when they can't say squat to thier own kids! My son let go and it fell dropping toys all over the floor. He starts helping pick them up and put them back in the kit. He gets to the hammer and the girl screams NO. He explains the hammer goes in that kit. I tell her to let him put it in the kit so we dont lose it she screms no and slams the lid on my sons fingers and pushes down with both hands. My son is screaming she wont let go and the whole time the mother is just standing literally right behind her just inches away! I jump up and run over and pull the kit away from her. I look at his fingers and dont see anything he is crying tears saying it burns. The mom, just standing there quiet, not a word still, with no emotion! I'm checking fingers telling him it's not that bad as I don't see anything.

    I tell the kids it really is time to clean up now. My son still crying hard. Again I tell him it's not that bad thinking she must not have really had all her weight on it like it seemed. Then I see his thumb!! It's purple and indented with the shape of the box lid! I tell him to go get a boo boo pack and hold on it. I can't even look at the Mother I am so angry now! The mother STILL stands there doing NOTHING! Saying NOTHING! I look down at the DCG and she looks mad and is pouting because I pulled the box away. I still don't even look at the Mother because now I am so angry I may say something I regret. My son comes back in holding the ice pack still crying and i rub his thumb. It's getting better already but still indented purple skin from being indented so badly by the lid and DCG forcing it down. Luckily it's not a bruised purple, it had faded away by dinner time. Anyway, still not having ANYTHING to say to me my child or her own child regarding this whole issue the Mom simply tells DCG "come on" and walks in the play room to put the tool kit back and comes back in and says "come on guys lets go."

    I'm in shock I can't even talk to her at this point. I want to tell her off sooo bad but I could lose my license through the state if she complains. I tell the kids I will see them tomorrow and to be good for Mommy. I don't know what to say as I am upset with both of them and just shocked at the Mother for not having a care in the world about my son. They get to my porch and play around stalling as always. I stand there in the door, the mom stands there telling them come on. I finally look her in the eye as she gets down my stairs and I tell her I will see her tomorrow. She smiles happily and says ok see ya in a cheery tone. What the heck??? After all that u smile and are cheery??? I give a fake smile and close the door.

    My sons finger is fine now. He may have even been a little dramatic (his nature sometimes) but fact is she did smash it in there and hold the lid down with both hands while he screamed and cried. Fact is the Mother stood behind her and didn't flinch! Fact is the Mother didn't have a problem telling MY son what to do yet didn't see fit to stop her own child from hurting mine or even tell her that was wrong. I would have pulled my kid off and immediatley checked the childs hand apologizing the whole time! But that's me so here I am asking if I am wrong here and what u guys would have done. I am so ashamed I didn't speak up for my sons rights and correct DCG myself. I just thought the Mother would step in any moment here.... Nope!

    I have apologized to my son many times this evening and told him we will have some extra mommy & me time.
  • Michael
    Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
    • Aug 2007
    • 7950

    #2
    I see this a lot. The inability of a parent to manage their children or the situations they present. These children have pushed their mother's boundries and know exactly how to manage "her".
    Last edited by Michael; 03-30-2011, 04:06 PM.

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    • youretooloud
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1955

      #3
      I have physically walked kids to the door before. Mom usually catches up.

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      • juliebug
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 354

        #4
        i am sorry but that girl would be in time out so fast here~ mom or no mom. i don't let the kids be naughty if there parents are here period if they don't take care of it immediately then i take care of it.

        i would say from now on kid leave when mom walks in to staying and talking!

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        • daycare
          Advanced Daycare.com *********
          • Feb 2011
          • 16259

          #5
          not to sound mean, but I would have never let it get that far. As soon as I said clean up or someone said clean and the response was no, I would have been all over them like flies on poo....

          I would have gone over and said would you like to put the toys away or would you like me to put them away. If the response was no again, I would ask them if they would like to respect my words or sit and time out. I would then remove the toys at this point myself and put them away. I would then direct them over to their mom.

          I would then say thanks for having a great day today we will see you tomorrow, bye bye

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          • cheerfuldom
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7413

            #6
            read Nanny's blog entry about this type of pickup and drop off drama. She posted everything I would post here. Get control of this now because as crazy as 20 minutes is, it will only get worse if you don't put a stop to it!

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            • daysofelijah
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 286

              #7
              Have the kids ready to go at the door 5-10 minutes before pick-up time, then when mom arrives usher them out authoritatively saying, "See you tomorrow, have a good night." with a smile.

              Don't allow the mom access to your home (other than the entryway) or to your child. She has no place and no right to intrude on your home and family in such a way.

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              • Jewels
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 534

                #8
                Wow, I would be really mad, And I don't think I would want to continue care for this famliy, I have one child, who rules her mother, and mom does nothing when she acts up, and I have had her for over a year, shes four, but I'm so tired of her lack of discipline, that I gave them their notice.......it all points to bad things to come.

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                • PitterPatter
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1507

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cheerfuldom
                  read Nanny's blog entry about this type of pickup and drop off drama. She posted everything I would post here. Get control of this now because as crazy as 20 minutes is, it will only get worse if you don't put a stop to it!
                  Ok Thank u I will go check it out. I already decided at dinner. It may seem rude but, I will have clean up 15 minutes before DCM gets there and as soon as I hear/see her pull up to my house I will put the kids coats on and have them seated on the couch ready for sign out. Starting tomorrow so maybe she will also get a hint as to me not appreciating the issue today.

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                  • Unregistered

                    #10
                    I am so sorry about the poor thumb!

                    It is so difficult for a parent to assume control in the presence of a superior (provider) authority.

                    It is hard to know when to take over and the changing of the guards is a tricky time.

                    As the provider - I think it is better to maintain control the whole time a child is in your presence- pass this off with a word to DCP "You have him/her?".

                    Also- It seems like your son was reacting to a bit of a vacuum of authority there - Good Boy! (He'll be a great dad)

                    You are not a bad mom, you just didn't realize that that was YOUR room. You take the toys, get the coats, bring the kids to the door.

                    Schedule time to chat with mom (nap or not pick up/drop off). Establish who is in charge in your house ( you- unless you expect her to take over for the time she is there) and then the kids...talk about DS getting hurt and bad manners in front of mom when its time to go home. Make a plan for getting ready to go home and start tomorrow with it.

                    Lastly. let your son know he is never on duty.

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                    • PitterPatter
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1507

                      #11
                      Originally posted by daysofelijah
                      Have the kids ready to go at the door 5-10 minutes before pick-up time, then when mom arrives usher them out authoritatively saying, "See you tomorrow, have a good night." with a smile.

                      Don't allow the mom access to your home (other than the entryway) or to your child. She has no place and no right to intrude on your home and family in such a way.
                      LOL I just posted something similar. I have to allow her entry to give her her state folder and sign each child out. But they will have coats on and be walked to the door by me as soon as she puts the pen down!

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                      • PitterPatter
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1507

                        #12
                        Originally posted by daycare
                        not to sound mean, but I would have never let it get that far. As soon as I said clean up or someone said clean and the response was no, I would have been all over them like flies on poo....

                        I would have gone over and said would you like to put the toys away or would you like me to put them away. If the response was no again, I would ask them if they would like to respect my words or sit and time out. I would then remove the toys at this point myself and put them away. I would then direct them over to their mom.

                        I would then say thanks for having a great day today we will see you tomorrow, bye bye
                        It doesnt sound mean. I agree with u. I was just shocked completely shocked!! Still am in a way.

                        As for putting her in a time out I wanted them out ASAP time out would prolong it.

                        Thank u everyone for your input it is greatly appreciated!!

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                        • Lilbutterflie
                          Advanced Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1359

                          #13
                          I think you have a definite right to be upset. I would be really upset. I personally would have pulled her off the lid and put her in timeout for doing this. Not acceptable in my house, I don't care if her mom was there and doing nothing about it! I do try not to correct things once their parent is there picking up, but I don't stand for tantrums and I don't stand for hurting others. I have in the past put a dcg in timeout after her mom picked up for throwing a complete tantrum. You are in MY house, you follow MY rules. Don't care if the parent is here.
                          If I were you, I'd have them ready to walk out the door even before she arrives. I have the kids ready to walk out the door about 5 minutes before their parent is expected to pick up. They are ready with shoes on, jackets on if needed, and all of their things sitting by the door. I even started emailing dcm the daily reports so that she can read them prior to picking up. It leaves nothing to discuss when she picks up. We say quick words, and off they go. Never lasts more than 5 minutes.

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                          • PitterPatter
                            Advanced Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1507

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jewels
                            Wow, I would be really mad, And I don't think I would want to continue care for this famliy, I have one child, who rules her mother, and mom does nothing when she acts up, and I have had her for over a year, shes four, but I'm so tired of her lack of discipline, that I gave them their notice.......it all points to bad things to come.
                            I thought about that too but as I mentioned the kids are usually very sweet and well behaved for me. They even give everyone hugs, my son included. They have only been here 3 weeks tho so maybe they have just been shy.

                            Another question I have is does anyone else allow daycare Moms to talk to your own children? I have had spats before when my son was very young (4) and a couple mothers felt the need to help me correct my own child. It just irritates me to no end. I could see if I didnt say anything or do anything but honestly I correct my own child even more than I do other children simply because I expect more he knows my rules.

                            Even the remark DCM made today "Hey let go she will put it away" is it just me or is that rude? 1st of all she knows his name use it not HEY

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                            • cheerfuldom
                              Advanced Daycare.com Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 7413

                              #15
                              If you speed up drop off and pick up, there will be no need for parents to address your child, problem solved for everyone. My DC parents see my kids often but I don't allow them to correct my kids mainly because I am all over the activity going on, they don't have the time to get involved and if they try, I completely ignore them (just as they ignore any corrections I give to their kid at these times). The best thing is to offer alternatives to touch base (email, texting, phone calls) and don't allow drop off and pickups to be anything other than a quick transfer of children.

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