Quick Question About The Random Drug Test Post...

[youretooloud]

Has it been closed? Or locked? I posted on it, and it didn't move or show my post.

I just wonder if I should take it personally, or if it has something to do with the post it'self.

[youretooloud]

Nevermind.. it showed up.

[Abigail]

The post should be closed because it's annoying. It's more of a personal battle than anything.

[Michael]

The post should be closed because it's annoying. It's more of a personal battle than anything.

Let me know next time something like this crops up.

[QualiTcare]

i peeked at it a few times, but never considered it out of hand. everyone isn't going to agree on everything - there are going to be debates (in real life and online) and if a particular debate upsets someone, i think they should walk away - literally or virtually.

[jen]

i peeked at it a few times, but never considered it out of hand. everyone isn't going to agree on everything - there are going to be debates (in real life and online) and if a particular debate upsets someone, i think they should walk away - literally or virtually.

I agree...if we close every thread that someone disagrees with, there won't be much left.

[Blackcat31]

I agree...if we close every thread that someone disagrees with, there won't be much left.

I agree. The main reason I visit this board is to see/read the threads that are hot topics of debate. Never in a person's life will you learn more than in those times that a person feels strongly about something and is willing to share their opinions and see how others see it. It is like being able to view things from every angle rather than only looking in one side.

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
~Martin Luther King Jr.

[dEHmom]

yep. Well said blackcat.

I like the hot topics as well.

I disagree with what the op in the other thread was talking about, because I personally like to drink on my spare time. Sometimes I drink more than others, but it never NEVER affects my ability to care for the children.

And I don't have anything against marijuana (I do not smoke it, but have in the past, and know people who do) and I know the truth about it, and I know exactly how it does and does not affect someone. Some people are better off smoking weed, then drinking. THATS A TRUTH. And some people are better off smoking weed than being sober. To each their own. My complaint with weed is the dopes who have to sit there all day and do it ALL day to make it through. But if someone wants to smoke it on a saturday night with the friends once a year, and a random drug test happens to be 2 weeks after, well now that person's career is gone. Also, my concern with marijuana is that there are a lot of jerks out there who lace it with other stuff, so the consumers keep coming back for more. Those guys deserve to rot in a jail cell.

YES it is not ok to use illegal substances. I am not saying everyone should go use weed cause it is ok. But I have known many many professionals in many professional fields who smoke weed, and that does not make them bad people, unworthy or irresponsible. Alcohol used to have a stigma on it too. The government has not figured out a way to control it, and profit on it (tax it), so they keep it illegal. AS SOON as the government finds a way to profit on it regularly, it will be legal just like alcohol. thats mo. Agree or disagree I really don't care.

[youretooloud]

AS SOON as the government finds a way to profit on it regularly, it will be legal just like alcohol. thats mo. Agree or disagree I really don't care.

So true. They should sell if legally (and safely) then tax the heck out of it. And, ya know what? Sometimes, when I need a few extra motrins, I'd smoke weed instead. Not often, but I'd sure love the option.

[dEHmom]

I know I sort of hijacked this in a sense, but here's where I stand...

I'm saying this from a stance of a casual, once in a blue moon type thing.

Alcohol - legal & can kill you

Cigarettes- legal and can kill you and filled with toxins and cancer causing

Marijuana- its a plant, no carcinogens that cause cancer (unless you mix it with tobacco), nothing addictive is in marijuana (unless laced) other than YOU might enjoy the high and choose to do it more often, but that's a choice. it does increase heart rate which in some can increase risk of heart failure. But SO DOES EVERYTHING!


Am I wrong?

ETA: long term use of weed is harmful (same as alcohol of course) because it can weaken your immune system, more chest infections due to the coughing, phlegm production, and bacteria/infections will just take over.

[youretooloud]

I know I sort of hijacked this in a sense, but here's where I stand...



Alcohol - legal & can kill you

Cigarettes- legal and can kill you and filled with toxins and cancer causing

Marijuana- its a plant, no carcinogens that cause cancer, nothing addictive is in marijuana (unless laced) other than YOU might enjoy the high and choose to do it more often, but that's a choice.


Am I wrong?

Nothing to hijack, this is better than my concerns over being censored in the drug test post. LOL

Anyway.. I have a friend who broke her spine, they offered her heavy duty prescription pain killers. She'd have to take them the rest of her life. But, they made her depressed and she gained 30 lbs. So, they gave her Xanax. Xanax and prescription pain killers. Now she was pretty much brain dead. (in her own happy little world) She stopped calling me, she didn't get on facebook, she never went anywhere.

So, she went to Eugene Oregon, got a bag full of pot, and quit taking all of the prescriptions. It changed her life. Now she has a "green card" AND is part owner in a pot farm!! (I had no idea there was such a thing) She pays a certain amount each year, and two or three times a year, she puts on her hippy clothes and Birkenstock sandals, drives to Eugene and spends a week farming, picking, or whatever it is they do. She takes her share home, and leaves the rest for others who have "stock" in this pot farm.

I wish I lived closer to Eugene.

[QualiTcare]

I know I sort of hijacked this in a sense, but here's where I stand...

I'm saying this from a stance of a casual, once in a blue moon type thing.

Alcohol - legal & can kill you

Cigarettes- legal and can kill you and filled with toxins and cancer causing

Marijuana- its a plant, no carcinogens that cause cancer (unless you mix it with tobacco), nothing addictive is in marijuana (unless laced) other than YOU might enjoy the high and choose to do it more often, but that's a choice. it does increase heart rate which in some can increase risk of heart failure. But SO DOES EVERYTHING!


Am I wrong?

ETA: long term use of weed is harmful (same as alcohol of course) because it can weaken your immune system, more chest infections due to the coughing, phlegm production, and bacteria/infections will just take over.

i agree 100%. i used to smoke it like a freight train, but stopped when i got pregnant. the ONLY reason i haven't done it since having children is because it's illegal and that scares me. i was the one who when i'd visit someone they'd say, "are you high?" cus i usually was. my roomate and i even had an article in our college newspaper cus we got "busted" after a "strange aroma" was detected from our dorm - . but i always tell this story that literally scared me straight:

i was minding my own business in my apartment after i just got home from working as a waitress (and i still had my uniform on) when someone knocked on the door. i opened it up to find a police officer who asked if he could come in. my daughter who was just a couple months old was lying on the couch and as he was eyeballing everything he proceeded to tell me that someone called to say there was a guy standing on my porch steps trying to sell drugs to kids that were passing by on their bikes! i was like WHAT?! i just got home from work and trying to get settled (which was obvious by my uniform and infant) but told him i couldn't speak for my neighbors who happened to be a midget who went by the name of "shorty" and some other crazy looking man who told me he was joining the circus - true story. the cop laughed at the crazy/true story, complimented me on my apartment, and left.

i thought to myself, "WHAT IF i had been smoking a bowl before he knocked on my door (not near my child of course)" do you know what would've happened if i opened the door for that police officer and he smelled marijuana? ESPECIALLY with me having a child? i would've gone to jail, the teacher that i later became would've never happened, and my child could've possibly been taken away. i was doing NOTHING wrong. it was a false alarm. there was NO reason for a cop to be at my apartment. after that - as much as i loved smoking, and as much as i think alcohol is 1,000 times worse - i didn't touch it. it wasn't worth it.

i agree with you though. people get drunk and beat their wives/kids. people don't smoke a joint and beat them up. the law has really and literally killed my buzz.

[dEHmom]

hahaha great story QualiT.


This was my last time.....3 yrs ago almost exactly.

Super bad pregnancy, constantly hospitalized because of placental previa, placental abruption, blood clots etc....Not to be gross, but basically every day, I could've filled a bucket with the blood I'd lose. One morning in february, same thing, but I told hubs don't worry it'll stop just go to work. But it didn't stop, and I passed out a few times with the amount lost. I didn't want my 2 kids seeing it, so I called my mil to take me to hospital, and she did, i was passed out when she got here. My cousin was living with us, so we just left a note cause she was sleeping.


Anyways, ds was born almost 2 months early, emerg. c sec in the next city. I refused the blood transfusion and the docs told me because I am normally anemic, that it saved my life, because my body was able to handle the blood loss. Otherwise we both would have died.


Ok that was the background....

DS 1 month old, ALWAYS throwing up. ALWAYS across the room. I was using big bath towels for a burping cloth it was so bad. My house was a mountain of dirty laundry, I was home alone with 3 kids (hubs had to work alot to pay the bills) blah blah. I couldn't sleep, eat, was depressed.

I had a hoot. Baby starts crying, so get a bottle hubs and I sit on couch to feed him, and hubs and I cuddled together to feed baby and all of a sudden, ds eyes go really big, milk (formula) is pouring out of his nose, and mouth, he is choking, and struggling to get a breath (remember this baby is tiny and fits in my hand still). If it wasn't for hubby I don't know what I would've done! I panicked, and he had to take ds from me, and clear out his throat and nose, and we had to prop him up.

I know it was wrong, but we figured babes were in bed, sleeping, and we'd be asleep and high would be gone before kids woke up.

Needless to say, I was scared we were going to have to go to the hospital and our eyes would be all red. I never wanted to feel like that ever again. My son had pyloric stenosis, that is why he was vomiting the way he was. We didn't know that yet. But I never want to worry about not being sober enough to take care of my children. It was stupid. you NEVER know when something can happen.

ETA: hubs was regular smoker of it, and he actually functioned a lot better high. He was more cautious and gentle, and stays calm which is what actually saved the day. Me i just panicked. We are both marijuana free now though

[Unregistered]

Ummm wow

I really cant even imagine the life style of being high while feeding my baby or getting high at all as an adult. Just my opinion to each his own, but daycare families I have that get high I think are trash. Daycare families that I have that drink to get drunk are trash. Such a different life style you all think is okay. As an adult, parent and daycare provider I would never do the things I did as a teenager. Its called growing up and now I can see why people would want their daycare provider tested for drugs.

[dEHmom]

I really cant even imagine the life style of being high while feeding my baby or getting high at all as an adult. Just my opinion to each his own, but daycare families I have that get high I think are trash. Daycare families that I have that drink to get drunk are trash. Such a different life style you all think is okay. As an adult, parent and daycare provider I would never do the things I did as a teenager. Its called growing up and now I can see why people would want their daycare provider tested for drugs.

If you can't tell, I wasn't a regular smoker of it.

And I was not doing daycare at the time.

I was VERY clear in my explaination to show that I am not a chronic user. I don't normally use it. And I wasn't sitting there with my baby and getting high.

While I can appreciate you have your opinion, you do not need to put me down.

I don't do drugs. I don't generally drink to get drunk, but I have on occassion gotten drunk, and that does not make me trash.

You say to each his own, yet, you put me down for sharing my story. An opinion is an opinion, but it doesn't make you better than me.

ETA: I was given prescription narcotics to try and sleep. They knocked me off my ass. I preferred not to take them. Advil, aspirin, and tylenol did nothing. So I had 1 hoot of marijuana to help me sleep (and not be completely useless and sleep through my child choking?) better or worse? Who knows. I just know that I chose never to smoke it again. EVER.

You can call me trash if you want. I can call you many names too. You don't know me, and I don't know you. Maybe you would choose the narcotics instead.

oh and another thing.....I didn't do anything like that when I was a teenager. Worst thing I did as a teenager was smoking cigarettes.