Something Is Realllly Wrong With This Child..

[youretooloud]

trust me I know how it is. There is only so much you can do and it sounds like you are a great provider. I would just keep nagging them...

Thank you!

[missnikki]

They may not have insurance, and arranging a doc visit might be expensive. You might offer a referral to a county clinic or well check center that would see her for a minimal cost. I've more than once had to give a clinic referral for families in a tough spot. Could that be the issue?

[dEHmom]

I hope you update on this thread!

I just want to mention, as I'm sure most if not all of you are aware, that:

1) sitting in the W shape is VERY VERY VERY bad for the child. It causes deformation in the bones and bows the legs.

2) tip toeing MUST be stopped. It tightens the Achilles tenant (sp?) which would be very painful to try walk properly after, and will result in surgery.
Little bit of tiptoeing is ok, if it's in play, but don't let them walk like this. Stop it immediately when they start to do it, unless it is part of an instructed activity.

[SilverSabre25]

It does sound like something might be up. I agree to keep nagging the parents about it; hopefully they'll listen.

Good luck; I know how hard it is when you know something is wrong but the parents won't listen to you.

(btw, what's sitting W style? I don't think I've ever heard of that)

[SilverSabre25]

Another thought...you say she had a really bad flu in November and the shivering started since then. Have the other problems started since then? Do they seem like they are getting worse? Are there any things that she could do before the flu but can't now?

(I have an idea...it's far-fetched, but seems like it might fit)

[dEHmom]

W style is where the legs are bend backwards and so the feet are by the bum instead, make a W with the legs.


I know my sister when she was around 3 yo, she got really sick with the "flu" and fevers, and then she had to relearn how to walk.

[SilverSabre25]

W style is where the legs are bend backwards and so the feet are by the bum instead, make a W with the legs.


I know my sister when she was around 3 yo, she got really sick with the "flu" and fevers, and then she had to relearn how to walk.

Gotcha, thanks!

[Blackcat31]

I hope you update on this thread!

I just want to mention, as I'm sure most if not all of you are aware, that:

1) sitting in the W shape is VERY VERY VERY bad for the child. It causes deformation in the bones and bows the legs. 2) tip toeing MUST be stopped. It tightens the Achilles tenant (sp?) which would be very painful to try walk properly after, and will result in surgery.
Little bit of tiptoeing is ok, if it's in play, but don't let them walk like this. Stop it immediately when they start to do it, unless it is part of an instructed activity.

Is it bad for adults too? I sit that way every time I am on the floor.

[youretooloud]

Is it bad for adults too? I sit that way every time I am on the floor.

It's been years since I've studied this... and later today, i'm going to google it.

But, if I remember correctly, W sitting leads to arthritis in the hips later on.

OR... (if I don't remember correctly) It is a symptom of what could happen. Not the cause. But, I do remember that younger adults with arthritis in the hips (younger than what you'd expect in normal aging) also sat W style as kids.

Quick Google search, I only skimmed it. http://www.pediatricservices.com/parents/pc-22.htm

[Blackcat31]

It's been years since I've studied this... and later today, i'm going to google it.

But, if I remember correctly, W sitting leads to arthritis in the hips later on.

OR... (if I don't remember correctly) It is a symptom of what could happen. Not the cause. But, I do remember that younger adults with arthritis in the hips (younger than what you'd expect in normal aging) also sat W style as kids.

Hmmm...very interesting, let me know what you do find out. I have sat that way most my life. My DH makes fun of the weird ways I sit. Like if I am tired of standing I will squat down and sit like an Aborigine (sp?) and can sit that way for hours. I have no hip or joint problems but maybe I will in the future(?). I have always sat with my feet tucked under me in a chair or W shape while on the floor.....very interesting stuff.....

[dEHmom]

Hmmm...very interesting, let me know what you do find out. I have sat that way most my life. My DH makes fun of the weird ways I sit. Like if I am tired of standing I will squat down and sit like an Aborigine (sp?) and can sit that way for hours. I have no hip or joint problems but maybe I will in the future(?). I have always sat with my feet tucked under me in a chair or W shape while on the floor.....very interesting stuff.....

do you mean the W shape or maybe the V shape (both legs to the same side behind you)???

I do the V shape or cross legs.

But the W shape in young kids because their bones are still so soft causes bowing. But in adults I think it would just be painful! .

[Blackcat31]

do you mean the W shape or maybe the V shape (both legs to the same side behind you)???

I do the V shape or cross legs.

But the W shape in young kids because their bones are still so soft causes bowing. But in adults I think it would just be painful! .

Nope, I mean the W shape with one leg on each side of me facing backwards but while on the floor. I noticed my pp could be interpreted as me saying I sit W shaped in a chair. W shape on the floor and all sorts of pretzel shapes in a chair....legs to one side, one under me, two under me, all kinds of ways, but weird none the less since I never see others sitting that way. I am really flexible....and even at my age, can stand flat footed and put both of my hands flat on the ground without bending my legs in the slightest and can still put both feet behind my head! LOL!!! ::::

[dEHmom]

Nope, I mean the W shape with one leg on each side of me facing backwards but while on the floor. I noticed my pp could be interpreted as me saying I sit W shaped in a chair. W shape on the floor and all sorts of pretzel shapes in a chair....legs to one side, one under me, two under me, all kinds of ways, but weird none the less since I never see others sitting that way. I am really flexible....and even at my age, can stand flat footed and put both of my hands flat on the ground without bending my legs in the slightest and can still put both feet behind my head! LOL!!! ::::

so in other words you are skinny and have no rolls to get in the way .


Yeah I'm not flexible, but I always have 1 or both legs tucked under me. When I sit in a chair they are curled beside me, usually knees up and feet beside, but I have always been a "ball" person.

I cannot however reach the floor perfectly straightly bent and crouching for more than 30 seconds I get dizzy and pass out, jk, but I can't do it, my legs go numb.

[Blackcat31]

so in other words you are skinny and have no rolls to get in the way .


Yeah I'm not flexible, but I always have 1 or both legs tucked under me. When I sit in a chair they are curled beside me, usually knees up and feet beside, but I have always been a "ball" person.

I cannot however reach the floor perfectly straight.

ummm....yeah, I wish....ha ha! thanks for the virtual vote of confidence though!

[dEHmom]

ummm....yeah, I wish....ha ha! thanks for the virtual vote of confidence though!

hahahahaha virtual vote.