Unbelieveable, Why Nosy People and Gov't Need to Stay Out of Our Business

[Unregistered]

Copied and pasted from the article linked in the 1st post above:

Each day before the school bus comes to pick up the neighborhood's children, Lisa Snyder did a favor for three of her fellow moms, welcoming their children INTO HER HOME for about an hour before they left for school.

It's not just at the bus stop as someone said.

Btw, I'm the same "unregistered" that said I'm surprised you all feel this way. I do plan to register, but whenever I get on here, I seem to be in a rush.

I'm sorry, but I still say if someone is watching other people's kids in that person's home, they should follow their state's regulations on licensing.

As to the teenage babysitter argument, they go to the kids' home to watch them, so that's different.

-- Joyce

[mac60]

Our drive is a bus stop also, has been for over 10 years. I have, on many occassions, either opened my garage door for the kids to stand in garage or allowed a group of 9 kids to come into my home and wait on the bus during rain, snow, extreme cold, or when bus was running late. I didn't get paid for it either.

As far as teenagers caring for a child, my daughter many times has watched a child in OUR home and she got paid for it. Bottom line is: nosy neighbor who needs to mind her own business.....unless she is hoping to start her own care center..........and government who needs to butt out also. Hell, look at the horrible mess our country is in.......and it isn't the fault of your average joe mom and dad, it is the fault of our government and greedy people.

[jen]

Sorry, I still say we should all learn to mind our own business. These women are pefectly capable of deciding who is going to spend an hour with the kids every morning. They really don't need the State to tell them how to do it.

I am still curious...if this were the situation in your neighborhood, why would you care? It isn't hurting you, the kids are fine, the parents are saving money...? I just don't get it...

Copied and pasted from the article linked in the 1st post above:

Each day before the school bus comes to pick up the neighborhood's children, Lisa Snyder did a favor for three of her fellow moms, welcoming their children INTO HER HOME for about an hour before they left for school.

It's not just at the bus stop as someone said.

Btw, I'm the same "unregistered" that said I'm surprised you all feel this way. I do plan to register, but whenever I get on here, I seem to be in a rush.

I'm sorry, but I still say if someone is watching other people's kids in that person's home, they should follow their state's regulations on licensing.

As to the teenage babysitter argument, they go to the kids' home to watch them, so that's different.

-- Joyce

[jen]

HHHHMMMMMM just a thought her but if SHE really wants to just help her bff's out of the goodness of her heart then why doesn't she have them help her pay the fees and just get licensed?

You must be joking? Opening yourself up to drop in visits, following guidelines about locking drawers and zip lock bags (and eveerything else) so you can watch the neighbors SCHOOL-AGED children for FREE? Yeah, right.

[jen]

AMEN!! My personal opinion is that people who worry about this kind of thing are just in a tizzie because they think someone is going to get something that they don't! Like little kids who think someone else might get 5 M&M's when they only got 4!

This is crazy. It's one hour/day before school. As long as the parents are okay, what's the big deal? It's not a daycare. Teens who babysit in the evenings aren't required to be licensed so why does this lady need to be for 1 hour/day. People need to mind their own business.

[ConcernedMotherof2]

Yes!

AMEN!! My personal opinion is that people who worry about this kind of thing are just in a tizzie because they think someone is going to get something that they don't! Like little kids who think someone else might get 5 M&M's when they only got 4!

LMAO @ little kids who think someone else might get 5 m&m's when they only got 4!! So true!

There is a difference between caring for kids all day long and simply providing a supervised place for them to wait for the school bus in the morning. It may be an hour, heck, it may be 1/2 an hour... why should this woman have to go through the expense and hassle of licensing? No good deed goes unpunished, it seems...

[seashell]

Daycare should be between parent and provider. End of story. DCF is there for abuse. Daycare licensing is a joke.

[ConcernedMotherof2]

I agree!

Daycare should be between parent and provider. End of story. DCF is there for abuse. Daycare licensing is a joke.

Most 'licensed and regulated' daycares I've taken my children to have run into a hurry up and get up to code mode when they knew it was time for them to be evaluated. I would walk in to drop off my kids and notice that all of the adults present were busily doing extra cleaning and hurriedly shuffling papers. Also, there was one daycare my kids went to that didn't even ask me for their shot records until the day before they were going to be evaluated--and my kids had been there for a year! yes, I was a young and inexperienced mother, but I've learned that just because a place is licensed, doesn't mean it's safe. I'd like to retain the right to decide who gets to care for my children, thank you.

[judytrickett]

Wow, sometimes the ignorance and apparent boredom of others astounds me. Who cares if she has kids at her house waiting for the bus? It's HER house! Geeze, fifty years ago this type of thing was commonplace - neighbours helped eachother out. Now if you help out a neighbour you get a letter from the state? Good gravy.

[Chickenhauler]

I'd like to retain the right to decide who gets to care for my children, thank you.

How does licensing strip you of that choice?

[mac60]

Because if the person you choose, or want, to care for your child while you work is not licensed, in some states they can not care for children, so yes, licensing does strip some parents from choosing the person they want to care for their child.

[Chickenhauler]

Because if the person you choose, or want, to care for your child while you work is not licensed, in some states they can not care for children, so yes, licensing does strip some parents from choosing the person they want to care for their child.

And is it that hard to get licensed?

If they're not licensed, there may be a good reason why they aren't (as in, they can't pass the background check, their water is contaminated, their home isn't safe, etc).

[mac60]

I know for a fact that the amount of work involved in getting licensed varies extremely from one state to the other. So yes, in some states it is that hard to get licensed, not only that, but the cost involved. I know someone who had to put a certain type of fireproof door up at her kitchen door that led to the garage and it cost her $350. That is just one example of the bs that some states make us do. I also know another provide that said they got a SINGLE sheet of paper with items listed on it that they needed to do for home daycare, and that it was mostly common sense things that we do anyways.....no problem, not a big cost and not a big issue. If they would just use common sense....the licensing end that is.

[Chickenhauler]

I know for a fact that the amount of work involved in getting licensed varies extremely from one state to the other. So yes, in some states it is that hard to get licensed, not only that, but the cost involved. I know someone who had to put a certain type of fireproof door up at her kitchen door that led to the garage and it cost her $350. That is just one example of the bs that some states make us do. I also know another provide that said they got a SINGLE sheet of paper with items listed on it that they needed to do for home daycare, and that it was mostly common sense things that we do anyways.....no problem, not a big cost and not a big issue. If they would just use common sense....the licensing end that is.

I have to ask....would you skimp on putting a fireproof door in place between the garage and the home if it were your call? Or would you just put up a hollow core interior door to save a few bucks?

I sure wouldn't......and I bet it was code for any new construction.

When my mother got licensed, she had to change her upstairs windows to egress style, and add an anchored rope ladder to one bedroom floor that could be unfurled out the window in an emergency. Think what would have happened should a fire break out WITH the old windows (which the cat could barely get through, much less a person).

But, hey, let's do away with all licensing regulations, why bother licensing and inspecting drivers, hazardous waste facilities, eating establishments, building codes, etc. Everyone will use common sense, right?

Without building codes, how many sub-standard roofs, walls, foundations, etc do you think would be built? I can see it now, 2x2 walls on 3 story buildings, floor trusses 36" on center, 1/4 sheating for flooring, etc etc.

With no licensing regs, how many sub-par daycare facilities do you think would be operating? You want to cry about how little you're getting paid now, wait til some mega corp opens a center that hires illegal immigrants for $2 per day to watch 25 kids each.....try competing with that.

The regs are in place for a reason, usually because someone didn't use "common sense".

Usually when you set the bar a little higher, you weed out those who are going to be half-assed. If someone gives up easily when faced with a few challenges, do you really want them caring for kids?

[AmandasFCC]

That's not the issue here. It's an HOUR. She's not in it for a career, she's watching some kids while they wait for a bus. What's the point of going through the hassles for AN HOUR? It's ridiculous.