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    #16
    too much curriculum!

    Im registered, too, but I kinda worry about privacy issues when posting stuff like this. I work in a center, and with a group we call "Preschool", which is a mixture of 3's and 4's. Im my area, kids go to Head Start when they're three, a state-run pre-k program when they're four and kindy when they turn 5. Thats a LOT of school in their early childhood years. We dont push Head Start so much because it has weird hours, has a huge amount of paperwork and home visits for basically what they get at daycare. We DO encourage all of our kids to go to Pre-K, because it is a wonderful program.

    When my kids leave me, they know all colors, shapes, numbers, animals, etc. They can write, recognize and spell their names, are completely potty trained and can clean up behind themselves, dress, and keep up with their own belongings. They are now learning to serve themselves at meals and assemble/disassemble naptime (less work for me, more fun for them). I am not in favor with inundating them with "learning" and "curriculums". If they learn the same thing with me, then again in Head Start, then again in Pre-K...they will be bored at some point.

    I was told by my director that she felt the kids weren't "learning" enough and that she wanted so much of the playtime to stop and replaced with "learning times". I did not agree. My kids learn from their play, from me, from their environment, from each other. We have circle time where we focus on letters, colors, etc and different topics, based on what interests them, for 10 -15 mins a day. We do table work and art projects several times a week, and I send home "homework" once a week so parents can extend what we learned. I think that's enough for 3 year olds.

    But honestly, I let them go back to their play. Kids this young NEED to play, not sit at tables several hours a day, being drilled on colors and shapes. At times, I feel bad for going against what my director said, but I know my kids and I felt worse forcing them to sit down and do worksheets and listen to me drone on about letters when they really wanted to play.

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    • Unregistered

      #17
      Wow!

      I am so happy with all the replies! I dont feel so alone anymore! Thanks everyone for making me feel better about my approach! It is true that kids have so many years of school ahead of them, that right now while they're young, they need to just play! It seems though that so many parents want you to "preschool" their children instead of doing it themselves. Ive gotten lots of calls where the parents ask if we do any kind of curriculum and when I say no they seem turned off. Oh well, we have a good bunch right now! Thanks again for he replies!

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      • kendallina
        Advanced Daycare.com Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 1660

        #18
        Originally posted by Meeko60
        The National Association For the Education of Young Children have a wonderful pamphlet called "Play is FUNdemental" I have given it to parents who think I should be teaching their 2 year old's to read........it states that young children's job is to PLAY. They learn by PLAYING. Lego blocks teach math skills etc. You can go to their web site and they will send you a mountain of the pamphlets for free (or they were when I got mine)

        My 3 years olds have a more structured program that they call "pre-school" but I make sure to let parents know that we cover more about the world around them than academic stuff. This week is space week for my little ones. Last week was pets.

        I have a good friend who is a kindergarten teacher. She told me she gets lots of kids who have been made to learn their ABC's, etc.....but can't sit still, can't take turn, shout out to the teacher etc. She would much rather that day care's and pre-school's teach the kids life skills so they are ready for kindergarten and she can then do her job. So that's what I do.

        But you'd be surprised how many parents want work sheets daily and flash cards for their babies......it's kind of sad. Kids need to be kids.

        Sounds like you're doing great! Art activities etc and educational toys are great!
        Thank you for saying this. Also, the "Play is FUNdamental" brochure is a great resource for those that would like to learn more about appropriate preschool curriculum.

        I am always surprised and disheartened when providers think that preschool curriculum is synonymous with worksheets, academics, flashcards, etc. Developmentally appropriate preschool curriculum does not include these things. DAP curriculum is completely play-based. I run a preschool out of my home, and yes, I advertise that I use a curriculum. I develop my own curriculum and it's completely play-based, based on my own children's interests and helps the children prepare for kindergarten (which in my state, unfortunately includes learning a lot before they even get there...). My parents appreciate that I do things in a developmentally appropriate way.

        And for the record, I have never "shoved an academic lesson down my children's throats". And my children don't go home everyday (or any day) with a worksheet or a craft. I'm not saying that this doesn't happen at some preschools, I know that it does, but I really don't like that people seem to assume that someone that does a 'curriculum' with children is making children do things that they are not ready for. Honestly, someone who has been educated in the field of early childhood education should understand that curriculum needs to be play-based and child-led.

        It sounds like so many of you here do curriculum. You do activities with your kiddos. You follow your children's leads. And I'm sure that they learn a lot.

        I really really hope that people don't feel like they have to go out and buy a curriculum. Keep doing what you're doing, but also don't sell yourselves short. Playing is learning and it's exactly what our children need.

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        • MommyMuffin
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 860

          #19
          I have no teaching background and do not want to be a preschool teacher.
          I use a curriculum and love it. The reasons:

          1. My daughter will soon be 3 and will be staying home with me. I want her to be exposed to many things. I am not creative and the curriculum offers lots of fun ideas, topics and activities.

          2. I am in a very competitive city and anything to enhance my childcare helps.

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          • mac60
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • May 2008
            • 1610

            #20
            I agree with most. I do promote that I do a preschool curriculum, which includes the alphabet, counting, shapes, colors, mostly the basics. We also do crafts and other activities. We go thru these each school year, and I don't start with the children in my care till they are 3 or so, so that at the most it is for 2 years for each child. I agree, kids need to be kids and there is a lot that can be learned thru play.

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            • BentleysBands
              *DAYCARE PROVIDER*
              • Oct 2010
              • 448

              #21
              Completely agree!
              I call my "preschool /toddler curriculum " a play to learn approach.
              all thru playing and music....along with a daily art project. Kids will learn what try need in school.its not my job!

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              • jen
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1832

                #22
                I'm half in and half out!

                I've done MGT, Funshine, Carol's and created my own. I don't do ANY of that anymore. We do things based on whats going on in our world. Is it snowing, lets make a snowman, what happens if snow comes in the house? Who wants a snow cone? That kind of thing..

                That said, "preschool" is big here and its what parents are looking for in my area so...I have 3 different programs come in and do activities with the kids. That is out preschool time. We do Travel-Tots, ABC Little Tykes (Spanish & Music) on a bi-monthly basis and ECFE comes in once a month to do a Kindergarten readiness program.

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                • MissAnn
                  Preschool Teacher
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2213

                  #23
                  I only take kids who are 3-5 because I do like to teach. The name of my program has the word "preschool" in it.

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                  • MissAnn
                    Preschool Teacher
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2213

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Meeko60
                    The National Association For the Education of Young Children have a wonderful pamphlet called "Play is FUNdemental" I have given it to parents who think I should be teaching their 2 year old's to read........it states that young children's job is to PLAY. They learn by PLAYING. Lego blocks teach math skills etc. You can go to their web site and they will send you a mountain of the pamphlets for free (or they were when I got mine)

                    My 3 years olds have a more structured program that they call "pre-school" but I make sure to let parents know that we cover more about the world around them than academic stuff. This week is space week for my little ones. Last week was pets.

                    I have a good friend who is a kindergarten teacher. She told me she gets lots of kids who have been made to learn their ABC's, etc.....but can't sit still, can't take turn, shout out to the teacher etc. She would much rather that day care's and pre-school's teach the kids life skills so they are ready for kindergarten and she can then do her job. So that's what I do.

                    But you'd be surprised how many parents want work sheets daily and flash cards for their babies......it's kind of sad. Kids need to be kids.

                    Sounds like you're doing great! Art activities etc and educational toys are great!
                    You hit the nail right on the head! Children learn all the time....and best through play and authentic activities. They learn by planting a flower, watching it grow and inspecting it rather than gluing and coloring a flower.

                    You don't have to have a "curriculum"....you can offer many choices in play and have have good quality materials. You can then look for "teachable moments" to further their understanding.

                    You can allow and expect your children to get out materials they need and then put them away (if age appropriate). You can be the example of how to treat others. You can give children tools to solve problems themselves so they will not need an adult hovering over them at all times.

                    So....all of you who say you are not a "preschool"....well, maybe you don't call yourselves that, but I am sure you are doing many things to help ready your children for their next steps in life.

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                    • countrymom
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 4874

                      #25
                      well I'm teaching creative cirriculum, in laymans terms---basic stuff that anyone should know and do. We learn to dress ourselves, how to clean up, keep our hands to ourselves, you know that stuff. I also have wooden puzzles out, sensory bin (as soon as I put it together) the sorting box (omg this is their favorite thing to do) but I don't sit down and do circle time, we do art when I feel like it (I mean like a cookie cutter thing) but the kids have access to the art cart on wheels and they love it and go in it every day. I let kids be kids, if they want to be a spy, well let them be a spy. We talk more about things than sit down and do things like paper stuff kwim.

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                      • Unregistered

                        #26
                        Teaching

                        It sounds like you are all teachers. I say that with a smile as you are all "teaching" children life skills. This is so important to young children. I am a director in a corporate setting, but I still understand your dilemmas. It is hard to hold that balance between what parents want and what is right. Without life skills, patience, sharing and self-help, the actual ABC's and such will do them no good. Children learn through Play. BRAVO to those who use NAEYC's literature about Playing. I have these conversations daily with parents who want two year olds reading. Children must learn about themselves and the world around them first. I don't think any kindergarten teacher would disagree with the fact they would rather have a well-rounded, socially adept child than an out of control, insecure child who has the academics down. Don't downplay your value, there is a lot of learning every day in ordinary life.

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                        • kayla
                          New Daycare.com Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 298

                          #27
                          I don't have a curriculum and won't either. Thats not saying we don't learn though. We do crafts and read a ton of books. To me daycare is to have fun and play. If you want a pre school then that is where you should bring your child. We do learn things everyday though, like sharing, manners, how to clean up after yourself, we learn about feelings. But it is not structured.

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