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  • TwinMama
    Daycare.com Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 343

    Natural Fencing

    When it comes to fencing I live on 3 acres in Wisconsin. My play area is huge. Is anyone familiar with what they mean when they say:

    Fencing, plants, or landscaping can be used.

    I would love to be able to plant shrubs or something instead.
  • Michael
    Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
    • Aug 2007
    • 7948

    #2
    The American Holly is nicknamed the 'Privacy Hedge' because of the density of its foliage. But that kind of density can take years. You can try putting up fencing and then grow vines on it.

    If you would like to look at flowering vines for fences, you have several choices.

    If you would like a fast growing plant to cover the fence, you will want an annual. Some annual flowering vines for fences include:

    Hops
    Hyacinth Bean
    Black-eyed Susan Vine
    Passion Flower
    Morning Glory

    If you were looking for some perennial flowering vines for fences, these would include:

    Dutchman’s Pipe
    Trumpet vine
    Clematis
    Climbing Hydrangea
    Honey****le
    Wisteria

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    • Alwaysgreener
      Home Child Care Provider
      • Oct 2013
      • 2519

      #3
      Originally posted by TwinMama
      When it comes to fencing I live on 3 acres in Wisconsin. My play area is huge. Is anyone familiar with what they mean when they say:

      Fencing, plants, or landscaping can be used.

      I would love to be able to plant shrubs or something instead.
      My backyard has a natural fence (the neighbors planted trees) and I was not required to fence anything. I have since put up a cheap fence that keeps the kids coraled in the playground area but it was not required. If you feel that you may have a natural fence, you may not need to do anything.

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      • TwinMama
        Daycare.com Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 343

        #4
        Originally posted by 284878
        My backyard has a natural fence (the neighbors planted trees) and I was not required to fence anything. I have since put up a cheap fence that keeps the kids coraled in the playground area but it was not required. If you feel that you may have a natural fence, you may not need to do anything.
        What kind of trees are they??

        Omg!! So lucky!! Are you from Wisconsin??The person that's advising me with my pre licensing says that she's never seen any time that they've not required someone to have a fence. I just don't know what section we would fence, and it would make me a little sad for them not to be able to run and play tag or kickball.

        I hope they can come up with a solution like trees or something. My backyard is no where near the road.

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        • TwinMama
          Daycare.com Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 343

          #5
          Originally posted by Michael
          The American Holly is nicknamed the 'Privacy Hedge' because of the density of its foliage. But that kind of density can take years. You can try putting up fencing and then grow vines on it.

          If you would like to look at flowering vines for fences, you have several choices.

          If you would like a fast growing plant to cover the fence, you will want an annual. Some annual flowering vines for fences include:

          Hops
          Hyacinth Bean
          Black-eyed Susan Vine
          Passion Flower
          Morning Glory

          If you were looking for some perennial flowering vines for fences, these would include:

          Dutchman’s Pipe
          Trumpet vine
          Clematis
          Climbing Hydrangea
          Honey****le
          Wisteria
          I love these suggestions!!! Thank you!!! I was wondering if maybe boxwood would be a solution as well. I like that it stays green.

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          • Alwaysgreener
            Home Child Care Provider
            • Oct 2013
            • 2519

            #6
            Originally posted by TwinMama
            What kind of trees are they??

            Omg!! So lucky!! Are you from Wisconsin??The person that's advising me with my pre licensing says that she's never seen any time that they've not required someone to have a fence. I just don't know what section we would fence, and it would make me a little sad for them not to be able to run and play tag or kickball.

            I hope they can come up with a solution like trees or something. My backyard is no where near the road.
            No MI. But I have always wanted to visit WI. Pine trees and dead trees, . That neighbor knows that they are dead but won't take them down. On the other side, it is my dad's property and it is just a tree line of random trees that just grow.


            My playground, I just put up a 4 ft chicken fence that opens to one set of deck steps. But I do have a wooden fence that goes from the house to the pole barn with a gate and the pole barn blocks the kids from going towards the neighbor's driveway.

            I do love having a fence around the playground, it keeps the toys, balls, and other things from blowing into the neighbor's tree line.

            Is there a height requirement for your fence?

            If not you could do a garden fence that you just stick in the ground.

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            • Cat Herder
              Advanced Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 13744

              #7
              My state also has the blurb about a "natural fence" if "approved". I have never known of one approved without an actual fence, minimum of 4 feet (without mulch). For a while the words "no ready footing" was included.

              We literally have to fill out field trip forms to go play in the sprinklers in the front (unfenced) yard or use sidewalk chalk on the driveway. It is pretty easy though, I just have them all sign the same page per day and stick it in the binder.

              Of course with COVID we are not allowed any fieldtrips. I am just going to claim ignorance and run the sprinklers like usual.
              Last edited by Cat Herder; 04-21-2021, 11:27 AM.
              - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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              • Alwaysgreener
                Home Child Care Provider
                • Oct 2013
                • 2519

                #8
                Originally posted by Cat Herder
                My state also has the blurb about a "natural fence" if "approved". I have never known of one approved without an actual fence, minimum of 4 feet (without mulch). For a while the words "no ready footing" was included.

                We literally have to fill out field trip forms to go play in the sprinklers in the front (unfenced) yard or use sidewalk chalk on the driveway. It is pretty easy though, I just have them all sign the same page per day and stick it in the binder.

                Of course with COVID we are not allowed any fieldtrips. I am just going to claim ignorance and run the sprinklers like usual.

                No field trips. Good thing that is not one of my rules, I would not be able to take DCB to the bus stop or get him off. I have a shared driveway, the front I only have the right way to, so I am required to treat it as a field trip. ::

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                • TwinMama
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 343

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cat Herder
                  My state also has the blurb about a "natural fence" if "approved". I have never known of one approved without an actual fence, minimum of 4 feet (without mulch). For a while the words "no ready footing" was included.

                  We literally have to fill out field trip forms to go play in the sprinklers in the front (unfenced) yard or use sidewalk chalk on the driveway. It is pretty easy though, I just have them all sign the same page per day and stick it in the binder.

                  Of course with COVID we are not allowed any fieldtrips. I am just going to claim ignorance and run the sprinklers like usual.
                  Oh my goodness. It's like having rules for the sake of having rules.

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                  • Meeko
                    Advanced Daycare.com Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4349

                    #10
                    We are allowed "natural barrier" here in Utah. But it has to be a hedge so dense that kids couldn't get through it, which could take years to grow.
                    I'm from England and many, many home owners have tall, thick hedges instead of fences. Wonderful privacy. but not an overnight thing.
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                    • Cat Herder
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 13744

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TwinMama
                      Oh my goodness. It's like having rules for the sake of having rules.
                      Well, sort of. Whenever someone does something stupid and makes the news we get some new knee jerk regulation. One center gets a boo-boo we all get bandaids.

                      * The fencing became an issue not because the kids were getting out but because aggressive dogs, wild animals, non-custodial parents/grandparents, sex offenders and drug addicts/dealers were getting in.

                      * The "no ready footing" was because teachers got on their phones and SA kids escaped over the fence into traffic, into sexually active teenagers basements and the bottom of ponds/lakes.

                      * The field trip forms for going off approved daycare property were because providers were merging groups at one house, with one provider to 12-18+ kids, while the other provider went shopping/to appointment. When caught, they claimed it was a walking field trip and they were just on their way back. Parents were unaware they left the grounds.

                      * The no field trips during COVID was because centers were dumping all the school agers in movie theaters, skating rinks, libraries and local pools while the teachers were on their phones not monitoring masks, handwashing or social distancing. Add all the angry parents who were still out with their own kids/homeschooling, trying to enjoy an outing with their own kid and can't because of the constant large poorly behaved groups from the busses. Videos made it online.

                      Rinse, repeat ad nauseum. For 25+ years.....
                      Last edited by Cat Herder; 04-21-2021, 01:03 PM.
                      - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                      • TwinMama
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 343

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cat Herder
                        Well, sort of. Whenever someone does something stupid and makes the news we get some new knee jerk regulation. One center gets a boo-boo we all get bandaids.

                        * The fencing became an issue not because the kids were getting out but because aggressive dogs, wild animals, non-custodial parents/grandparents, sex offenders and drug addicts/dealers were getting in.

                        * The "no ready footing" was because teachers got on their phones and SA kids escaped over the fence into traffic, into sexually active teenagers basements and the bottom of ponds/lakes.

                        * The field trip forms for going off approved daycare property were because providers were merging groups at one house, with one provider to 12-18+ kids, while the other provider went shopping/to appointment. When caught, they claimed it was a walking field trip and they were just on their way back. Parents were unaware they left the grounds.

                        * The no field trips during COVID was because centers were dumping all the school agers in movie theaters, skating rinks, libraries and local pools while the teachers were on their phones not monitoring masks, handwashing or social distancing. Add all the angry parents who were still out with their own kids/homeschooling, trying to enjoy an outing with their own kid and can't because of the constant large poorly behaved groups from the busses. Videos made it online.

                        Rinse, repeat ad nauseum. For 25+ years.....
                        Holy smokes. Well yeh. I guess I can understand it then. That's crazy!

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                        • Unregistered

                          #13
                          Natural Fences

                          Careful with Natural Fences. I was trying to find something to grow to hide our temporary Cattle fencing. Most everything I found was toxic to kids and/or pets if ingested. I was worried about spending the money and time growing them, just to be told not allowed. We went to a more permanent one, but if looking for temporary, cattle fencing with stakes was a cheaper/ easy installed barrier for us when I first opened.

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                          • TwinMama
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 343

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered
                            Careful with Natural Fences. I was trying to find something to grow to hide our temporary Cattle fencing. Most everything I found was toxic to kids and/or pets if ingested. I was worried about spending the money and time growing them, just to be told not allowed. We went to a more permanent one, but if looking for temporary, cattle fencing with stakes was a cheaper/ easy installed barrier for us when I first opened.
                            That's a good thing to know.

                            I'm actually waiting for her to tell me what they allow. I'm thinking about boxwood whether I have to have a fence or not. We have them around other parts of our house and I think they would cover up the fence nicely.

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                            • Michael
                              Founder & Owner-Daycare.com
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 7948

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TwinMama
                              I love these suggestions!!! Thank you!!! I was wondering if maybe boxwood would be a solution as well. I like that it stays green.
                              Boxwood: When ingested, boxwood may cause diarrhea, convulsions and respiratory failure.

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