Binden's American Families Plan and Daycare

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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #16
    Originally posted by Sunshine69
    Lovely. More solutions to control the childcare “crisis”. Funny how their solutions lead to more providers closing their doors, thereby perpetuating the problem.

    Maybe stop promoting the idea that childcare is costly and instead promote the idea that raising children is expensive and the responsibility of the parents!

    This country has become ridiculous in enabling people not to accept responsibility for situations they create, from not enforcing penalties for not paying child support to subsidizing childcare at the expense of all taxpayers and childcare providers. Just stop it already! Adults need to adult. It’s that simple.
    I am so beyond grateful there are still logical, critical thinkers in our society! I agree with everything you said
    Especially the bolder part!!

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    • Josiegirl
      Daycare.com Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 10834

      #17
      Originally posted by Sunshine69
      Lovely. More solutions to control the childcare “crisis”. Funny how their solutions lead to more providers closing their doors, thereby perpetuating the problem.

      Maybe stop promoting the idea that childcare is costly and instead promote the idea that raising children is expensive and the responsibility of the parents!

      This country has become ridiculous in enabling people not to accept responsibility for situations they create, from not enforcing penalties for not paying child support to subsidizing childcare at the expense of all taxpayers and childcare providers. Just stop it already! Adults need to adult. It’s that simple.
      I nominate you for president. Honestly, you've got so much common sense and wish you'd give talks at all meetings over policies of expanding funds to create more ridiculous programs to better support our children. Meanwhile, we've never seen so many mass shootings and angry mobs out there before.
      Children are not brought up to earn their own way, handle adversity or go through life not expecting every single thing to be handed over to them, just because. Care and respect children enough to give them specific boundaries and earn their place so they'll respect and care about themselves. People appreciate what they have so much more if they have a sense of earning it, not just having it handed over.
      SO many people just don't care anymore. About anything. It's NOT going to be rectified by another costly program. Teach parents how to be loving and caring parents. Show them how to BE THERE for their child/ren and not only for themselves. It's so frustrating.

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      • Gemma
        Childcare Provider
        • Mar 2015
        • 1277

        #18
        Another step towards communisms!

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        • Annalee
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 5864

          #19
          There was a time when it was 'natural' to love/nurture your children but now we come to the generation where 'everyone gets a trophy for participation' so no one has any accountability for anything because they get the 'trophy' any way and 'dare' anyone to say anything about it much less be allowed to 'do' anything; yes socialism and communism are upon us! Whatever you wanna call it! :confused:

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          • Cat Herder
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 13744

            #20
            I am struck at how fast Daycare went from being a Luxury to being a Right? When did having more children than you can afford become a right?

            I would have loved to have had more kids, but could not afford to. I never would have dared to demand someone else pay for them.
            - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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            • Annalee
              Daycare.com Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 5864

              #21
              Originally posted by Cat Herder
              I am struck at how fast Daycare went from being a Luxury to being a Right? When did having more children than you can afford become a right?

              I would have loved to have had more kids, but could not afford to. I never would have dared to demand someone else pay for them.
              You been talking to my brother, haven't you? :: He's so frustrated right now with this theory of 'right' and 'patting patting everyone on the back even if they're wrong even if they are performing their job correctly, be sure and pat them on the back:confused: He was wound up yesterday!

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              • Cat Herder
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 13744

                #22
                Originally posted by Annalee
                You been talking to my brother, haven't you? :: He's so frustrated right now with this theory of 'right' and 'patting patting everyone on the back even if they're wrong even if they are performing their job correctly, be sure and pat them on the back:confused: He was wound up yesterday!
                But were you not constantly told to follow the zero population growth thing growing up?

                It was beat into us at school. In sex ed, home economics and gym classes. Every year. "1 child per adult, anything else was irresponsible unless you made enough for 3 adults."

                I remember, when I got pregnant at 17, I was shamed, asked to leave school and *they (hospital staff at birth) were trying to pressure me into having my tubes tied, then. At 18.

                I don't want to go back to that, but paying them to breed seems irresponsible as well. How about something in the middle?
                - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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                • Annalee
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 5864

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Cat Herder
                  But were you not constantly told to follow the zero population growth thing growing up?

                  It was beat into us at school. In sex ed, home economics and gym classes. Every year. "1 child per adult, anything else was irresponsible unless you made enough for 3 adults."

                  I remember, when I got pregnant at 17, I was shamed, asked to leave school and *they (hospital staff at birth) were trying to pressure me into having my tubes tied, then. At 18.

                  I don't want to go back to that, but paying them to breed seems irresponsible as well. How about something in the middle?
                  I agree with needing something in the 'middle' but I feel something in the 'middle' leads to judgement/negotiation and becomes difficult for the powers that be. I worry about my own two sons especially now that they are in adulthood. It's one thing to have a child out of wedlock at a young age and the family support and assist the parents which is what family does including mine and families go beyond which is great and marriage isn't always the answer so, as families, we jump in and help cause the person in question deserves that, going on now within my family; but it's another to become a repeat/habitual with no regard for those you are affecting and continue bringing kids into the world for someone else to 'raise'........

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                  • Josiegirl
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 10834

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Cat Herder
                    But were you not constantly told to follow the zero population growth thing growing up?

                    It was beat into us at school. In sex ed, home economics and gym classes. Every year. "1 child per adult, anything else was irresponsible unless you made enough for 3 adults."

                    I remember, when I got pregnant at 17, I was shamed, asked to leave school and *they (hospital staff at birth) were trying to pressure me into having my tubes tied, then. At 18.

                    I don't want to go back to that, but paying them to breed seems irresponsible as well. How about something in the middle?
                    I don't think the Duggars took that course.

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