Covid Vaccine?

[Valerie928]

Here are my sources: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1SU?il=0 - UK medicine regulator examining Pfizer vaccine reactions as matter of priority

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...KBN28J1D1?il=0 - UK warns people with serious allergies to avoid Pfizer vaccine after two adverse reactions

2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects.

[Alwaysgreener]

2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects.

Some people that are allergic to vaccines do not get lengthy side effects because the side effect is life-ending for them. Please do not degrade my decision or anyones, to hold off on taking the vaccine because only a small percentage vs a large percentage had a reaction and they are fine. I will choose to quarantine then risk having a life-ending reaction to something that is supposed to save me from getting sick.

[Valerie928]

Some people that are allergic to vaccines do not get lengthy side effects because the side effect is life-ending for them. Please do not degrade my decision or anyones, to hold off on taking the vaccine because only a small percentage vs a large percentage had a reaction and they are fine. I will choose to quarantine then risk having a life-ending reaction to something that is supposed to save me from getting sick.

Help me see how I said something to degrade you?

Also, I really don't care whether people take this vaccine or not.

[Alwaysgreener]

Help me see how I said something to degrade you?

Also, I really don't care whether people take this vaccine or not.

Sorry, it was an auto correct.

Your post came across to me as saying that ...

If one did not get the vaccine just because of 2 people that had an allergic reaction (and were fine) they were in the wrong because all vaccines have side effects.

But if you did not mean it that way, then I take back 100% of my reply. :hug:

[Valerie928]

Sorry, it was an auto correct.

Your post came across to me as saying that ...

If one did not get the vaccine just because of 2 people that had an allergic reaction (and were fine) they were in the wrong because all vaccines have side effects.

But if you did not mean it that way, then I take back 100% of my reply. :hug:

:hug: :hug::hug:

[Cat Herder]

2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects.

And? Your point?

If you want to take the vaccine, take the vaccine. No one is stopping you. Be my guest.

[Valerie928]

And? Your point?

If you want to take the vaccine, take the vaccine. No one is stopping you. Be my guest.

If you would have read my next reply to 284878 instead of snapping at me, you would see that I don't care whether people choose to take the vaccine or not. I simply pointed out that there ARE side effects to ALL vaccines.

[Cat Herder]

If you would have read my next reply to 284878 instead of snapping at me, you would see that I don't care whether people choose to take the vaccine or not. I simply pointed out that there ARE side effects to ALL vaccines.

It was not a snap, I wanted to know your point as it seemed off topic and oppositional. We already know that all vaccines have side effects, that has nothing to do with patients with known allergic reactions to immunizations jumping the line for the first covid-19 immunizations. A known contraindication. The point of the "wait" request by health officials is that this vaccine is in limited numbers and the hospitals are already overwhelmed with high needs patients. Taking the vaccine with known previous reactions would be a selfish choice. First, in taking a dose from someone who would more likely benefit. Second, in risking your life in an already over tasked ICU lowering your survival rate and costing your family thousands of dollars if you survive.

It would be akin to giving the only available liver to an alcoholic. Yes, the alcoholic will get the chance but should not be at the top of the list. Medical history matters.

[Valerie928]

It was not a snap, I wanted to know your point as it seemed off topic and oppositional. We already know that all vaccines have side effects, that has nothing to do with patients with known allergic reactions to immunizations jumping the line for the first covid-19 immunizations. A known contraindication. The point of the "wait" request by health officials is that this vaccine is in limited numbers and the hospitals are already overwhelmed with high needs patients. Taking the vaccine with known previous reactions would be a selfish choice. First, in taking a dose from someone who would more likely benefit. Second, in risking your life in an already over tasked ICU lowering your survival rate and costing your family thousands of dollars if you survive.

It would be akin to giving the only available liver to an alcoholic. Yes, the alcoholic will get the chance but should not be at the top of the list. Medical history matters.

How in the world was I off topic? This is a thread about the vaccine right? Nevertheless, fault will be found somewhere.

[Cat Herder]

How in the world was I off topic? This is a thread about the vaccine right? Nevertheless, fault will be found somewhere.

You quoted me, not the OP. My post was about contraindications and an announced public health statement.

Your post said "2 people had allergic reaction, they are fine now. All vaccines carry a lengthy list of side effects."

They were not "fine" and my post was not about side effects. It isn't personal. No one is blocking anyone from taking it. It was a request for personal accountability.

[MyAngels]

It was not a snap, I wanted to know your point as it seemed off topic and oppositional. We already know that all vaccines have side effects, that has nothing to do with patients with known allergic reactions to immunizations jumping the line for the first covid-19 immunizations. A known contraindication. The point of the "wait" request by health officials is that this vaccine is in limited numbers and the hospitals are already overwhelmed with high needs patients. Taking the vaccine with known previous reactions would be a selfish choice. First, in taking a dose from someone who would more likely benefit. Second, in risking your life in an already over tasked ICU lowering your survival rate and costing your family thousands of dollars if you survive.

It would be akin to giving the only available liver to an alcoholic. Yes, the alcoholic will get the chance but should not be at the top of the list. Medical history matters.

It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.

[Annalee]

It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.

I know covid is messing with our moods, but I disagree with your view about CH 'snapping'. :confused:

[Valerie928]

It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.

Yep, this is how I see it too.

[Cat Herder]

It definitely came across as a snap to more than one person, whether intended or not, as your posts sometimes do.

This is a thread about vaccines, so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the post was "off topic" or "oppositional" either.

When you quote someone, you are replying to their post. In this instance it was a statement meant to negate my statement.

I merely countered an oppositional (**opposing viewpoint**) debate to my statement. If the statement was stand-alone, without quoting my statement, I would not even have responded.

[Cat Herder]

FTR, I love to debate. It isn't personal to me and is not intended to be. Change my mind. I love that.