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  • MissLisa08
    New Daycare.com Member
    • Oct 2019
    • 34

    How Do I Do This??? Help

    So I have my policy handbook that goes into detail of my child care rules and all. And I have my contract which is for them to sign. So how can I get what I need on the contract without writing it all out again but also so I have their signature showing they agree ? Do you say " see policy handbook" ?? If anyone can help me with this or a simpler way of doing it that would help. Thanking in advance for the help
  • Snowmom
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 1689

    #2
    I used to have 2 (handbook and also a contract).
    I had them sign the contract and also sign a handbook release that states they received it and will follow all policies as outlined.

    Now, I just have them sign the handbook. If anything needs adjusting or personalizing, I write up an addendum.

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    • MissLisa08
      New Daycare.com Member
      • Oct 2019
      • 34

      #3
      Originally posted by Snowmom
      I used to have 2 (handbook and also a contract).
      I had them sign the contract and also sign a handbook release that states they received it and will follow all policies as outlined.

      Now, I just have them sign the handbook. If anything needs adjusting or personalizing, I write up an addendum.
      Nice! I'll add that part onto the contract

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      • jenboo
        Daycare.com Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 3180

        #4
        they sign both of mine

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        • Cat Herder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 13744

          #5
          Are you asking how to add things to your contract without having to have the parents agree and sign? So updating without their informed consent?

          I may not be completely understanding your question.
          - Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.

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          • Alwaysgreener
            Home Child Care Provider
            • Oct 2013
            • 2520

            #6
            With my first family I had a contract with policy combined. When I realized things were not going well and needed to be changed, I rewrote the whole thing highlighting the changes. But then I had to print two copies and have the client sign one without her refusing. She did sign but that also meant that I worked for free while she read through the whole thing.

            I later decided after reading one of Tom Copeland's blogs to separate them. My contract terms state that they agree to my policies and to any changes. Of they don't agree with the new policy the have the right to enforce their two week notice. (Which I had a client do)

            From one of Toms post ..

            At the very least, your contract should contain these four basic elements:

            Names of the parties: your name, the parents’ names, the names of the children

            Terms of the contract: There are two terms in a contract that are enforceable in court –

            Time – The hours and days you are open

            Money – How much parents owe you for your services: when payment is due, late fees, registration fees, field trip fees, etc.

            Termination procedure: How will the contract end

            Signatures: Both parents (if around) and yours

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            • AmyKidsCo
              Daycare.com Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 3786

              #7
              Only a contract holds up in court, that's why you need the things Tom Copeland lists as essential (time & money). You can have the parents sign that they'll follow the handbook, but it's not enforceable in court.

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              • MissLisa08
                New Daycare.com Member
                • Oct 2019
                • 34

                #8
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                Thank you! I guess the only thing to put in contrast is the most important. In my old contract I had a few detailed stuff like sick policy and vacation etc. But I never had a policy handbook. Now I'm trying to make my policy handbook and re-write my contract. I was unsure if I should still point out important things like sick and vacation on my contract. But I guess keep it simple with what you said.

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                • MissLisa08
                  New Daycare.com Member
                  • Oct 2019
                  • 34

                  #9
                  :hug:

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                  • MissLisa08
                    New Daycare.com Member
                    • Oct 2019
                    • 34

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 284878
                    With my first family I had a contract with policy combined. When I realized things were not going well and needed to be changed, I rewrote the whole thing highlighting the changes. But then I had to print two copies and have the client sign one without her refusing. She did sign but that also meant that I worked for free while she read through the whole thing.

                    I later decided after reading one of Tom Copeland's blogs to separate them. My contract terms state that they agree to my policies and to any changes. Of they don't agree with the new policy the have the right to enforce their two week notice. (Which I had a client do)

                    From one of Toms post ..

                    At the very least, your contract should contain these four basic elements:

                    Names of the parties: your name, the parents’ names, the names of the children

                    Terms of the contract: There are two terms in a contract that are enforceable in court –

                    Time – The hours and days you are open

                    Money – How much parents owe you for your services: when payment is due, late fees, registration fees, field trip fees, etc.

                    Termination procedure: How will the contract end

                    Signatures: Both parents (if around) and yours

                    Thank you!

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                    • MissLisa08
                      New Daycare.com Member
                      • Oct 2019
                      • 34

                      #11
                      Originally posted by AmyKidsCo
                      Only a contract holds up in court, that's why you need the things Tom Copeland lists as essential (time & money). You can have the parents sign that they'll follow the handbook, but it's not enforceable in court.

                      So anything I want to hold up in court I should add on contract 👍 thank you!

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                      • MissLisa08
                        New Daycare.com Member
                        • Oct 2019
                        • 34

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cat Herder
                        Are you asking how to add things to your contract without having to have the parents agree and sign? So updating without their informed consent?

                        I may not be completely understanding your question.

                        I was just wondering how to get parents to sign agreeing to my policy handbook without having to add everything to a contract as well. I understand now that certain things like price and hours are contract worthy.

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                        • Jo123ABC
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 435

                          #13
                          What if you have a contract with everything (10pages) and don't bother with a policy handbook?

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                          • AmyKidsCo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 3786

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MissLisa08
                            So anything I want to hold up in court I should add on contract 👍 thank you!
                            Yes, but I think only time and money can hold up in court. For instance, if you have a No "dope and drop" policy and the parents do it anyway, the court won't help. But if you call them on it and they leave without notice & payment listed in the contract you can go to court for the payment.

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                            • Snowmom
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 1689

                              #15
                              It depends on how your contract is worded.

                              If you contain everything that a contract needs to contain but refer to it as your handbook and contract (like I do), it is 100% enforceable in court.

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