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Can anybody help me where to buy door knobs that are locked outside but kids can easily open from inside. Apparently its a requirement from the fire dept.
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Not a clue, never heard of it being a requirement. :confused:
Is this in your home?
I would see the bigger risk in kids getting out and not being able to get back in.- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.
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HI Country Road
can you elaborate more on this??? I just keep one of those door knob cover things on the door going outside so I don't have any escapeesComment
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Its a requirement for me in Louisiana as well, please advise.Comment
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I was told by the fire inspector I have to keep my exterior doors unlocked at all times daycare kids are inside the house, unless I change my doors so they open from the inside while locked.
Absolutely no child-proof covers on the doorknobs. Escapees are not the concern--fatalities in a fire are the concern.Comment
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MN regulations state:
12. Locks and latches. Door locks and latches must meet the following guidelines:
A. a closet door latch must be made so that children can open the door from inside the closet;
§B. every bathroom door lock must permit opening of the locked door from the outside and the opening device must be readily accessible to all caregivers; and
C. double cylinder (key required both sides) locks on exit doors are prohibited.
So for us it just means that if we have locks on bedroom or bathroom doors, the children must be able to open them from the inside to prevent them from being locked in.Comment
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I would not be ok with exterior doors that are not locked. I understand fire risk. I also understand supervision, smoke/fire detectors and security risk.
On interior doors, in rooms the kids use, I have removable foam (clip-on) door blocks that prevent them from closing completely. https://www.amazon.com/Protectors-Pr.../dp/B074QGLLWK
Last edited by Michael; 08-20-2019, 12:48 PM.- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.Comment
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Exterior doors are different as the only requirement for them is that you don't need a key to open from the inside.I would not be ok with exterior doors that are not locked. I understand fire risk. I also understand supervision, smoke/fire detectors and security risk.
On interior doors, in rooms the kids use, I have removable foam (clip-on) door blocks that prevent them from closing completely. https://www.amazon.com/Protectors-Pr.../dp/B074QGLLWK
My exterior locks just have those little turn thingy's in the middle of the door.
"little turn thingy" is a correct term right?!?
Like this:Attached FilesComment
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That makes more sense.
Little turny thingy is my technical term for it, too. :
: I had some similar until my cat learned how to open them. :confused:
He would hang on it and wiggle until it would swing open. Maine Coons, trouble I tell ya.
- Unless otherwise stated, all my posts are personal opinion and worth what you paid for them.Comment
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I have doorknobs like BC's picture and my fire marshall allows me to lock them daily. But I have met providers across the state who have been told differently. Not sure what doorknobs they have but sometimes I think there is major inconsistencies in the child care world from state to state, county to county, and even between providers that live in the same city. Makes it hard to find a definitive answer leaving us at the mercy of whomever walks in and their perception of the rule
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weigh the risks
I wouldn't do daycare if my children could easily open a door and go out the front door! I keep my front door locked and the backdoor to my fenced yard unlocked. I believe that children running out to the front and in the street is more dangerous than them being trapped in a fire (since I do daytime childcare only and they are trained to go out the playroom door (backdoor).Comment
the fireman who inspected our facility says I need to have these type of door knob.
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