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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #16
    Originally posted by coloradoprovider
    A locked door keeps out unwanted persons and keeps IN active children!
    That is exactly why we shouldn't lock doors in my state.

    Unless like mentioned in previous post, the door knob is the type that can be opened without messing around with a lock.....which in your case if you are using the lock to keep the children in, wouldn't be acceptable by licensing.

    It's also kind of dangerous to have a locked door that kids can't operate without you. What if something happened to you and they needed to escape in a fire? They'd be trapped inside if the door was locked.

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    • lovemykidstoo
      Daycare.com Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4740

      #17
      Originally posted by Blackcat31
      That is exactly why we shouldn't lock doors in my state.

      Unless like mentioned in previous post, the door knob is the type that can be opened without messing around with a lock.....which in your case if you are using the lock to keep the children in, wouldn't be acceptable by licensing.

      It's also kind of dangerous to have a locked door that kids can't operate without you. What if something happened to you and they needed to escape in a fire? They'd be trapped inside if the door was locked.
      My lock is a button lock and the kids during our fire drills open it themselves. So important.

      I will continue to keep mine locked, if for nothing else, so a child doesn't get bashed in the head if they're sitting there getting ready or walking by. That outweighs an impatient parent that can't wait 10 seconds.

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      • MomBoss
        Daycare.com Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 788

        #18
        Originally posted by Blackcat31
        That is exactly why we shouldn't lock doors in my state.

        Unless like mentioned in previous post, the door knob is the type that can be opened without messing around with a lock.....which in your case if you are using the lock to keep the children in, wouldn't be acceptable by licensing.

        It's also kind of dangerous to have a locked door that kids can't operate without you. What if something happened to you and they needed to escape in a fire? They'd be trapped inside if the door was locked.
        All my kids are 2 and under so they wouldnt be able to open the door anyway if something happened to me. I keep my phone on me at all times and my front (non daycare door, parents use a different door) is a keypad entry so emergency ppl can use the code.
        I think we should be locking door to keep thw kids safe. I technically show a lot of people how to enter my home and that my home is a daycare whenever i do an interview. For all i know they arent actaully parents and could be scoping out situations. My address is also publicly listed so any crazy person or pedophile could walk into my daycare if it were kept unlocked.
        Call me paranoid, but i want to be safe.

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        • Snowmom
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 1689

          #19
          Originally posted by Blackcat31
          That is exactly why we shouldn't lock doors in my state.

          Unless like mentioned in previous post, the door knob is the type that can be opened without messing around with a lock.....which in your case if you are using the lock to keep the children in, wouldn't be acceptable by licensing.

          It's also kind of dangerous to have a locked door that kids can't operate without you. What if something happened to you and they needed to escape in a fire? They'd be trapped inside if the door was locked.
          So weird because my licensor has never even questioned my locks. I even have one of those high flip locks like in hotel rooms (I only use those at night).
          I keep doors dead bolted during business hours. There have been numerous instances of people casing surrounding neighborhoods and searching for unlocked doors to enter/rob. Lots of local stories of robberies done this way and even some entering open garage doors while occupants ARE HOME- they enter opened garage doors, enter the access door to the house, peek in and take whatever is by the door (usually purses).

          My doors are dead bolted after 9 until 3. I typically remotely unlock the front door after nap time either through my Wink app or through Alexa and have the front camera displayed on my iPad from 3-4:30 (pick up times). I have a couple kids I trust with how to unlock doors and we go over emergency procedures monthly. But I am not comfortable leaving doors unlocked during the day... even in a nice neighborhood.

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #20
            Originally posted by MomBoss
            All my kids are 2 and under so they wouldnt be able to open the door anyway if something happened to me. I keep my phone on me at all times and my front (non daycare door, parents use a different door) is a keypad entry so emergency ppl can use the code.
            I think we should be locking door to keep thw kids safe. I technically show a lot of people how to enter my home and that my home is a daycare whenever i do an interview. For all i know they arent actaully parents and could be scoping out situations. My address is also publicly listed so any crazy person or pedophile could walk into my daycare if it were kept unlocked.
            Call me paranoid, but i want to be safe.
            I understand your viewpoint but I don't share your thoughts. I don't feel keeping the door locked keeps anyone safer necessarily. I also don't live in a community that generates paranoia in regards to safety.

            If I did live in a larger metro area, I may think/feel differently but then again, if I lived in a larger metro area I probably wouldn't be a child care provider either.

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            • lovemykidstoo
              Daycare.com Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 4740

              #21
              Originally posted by Snowmom
              So weird because my licensor has never even questioned my locks. I even have one of those high flip locks like in hotel rooms (I only use those at night).
              I keep doors dead bolted during business hours. There have been numerous instances of people casing surrounding neighborhoods and searching for unlocked doors to enter/rob. Lots of local stories of robberies done this way and even some entering open garage doors while occupants ARE HOME- they enter opened garage doors, enter the access door to the house, peek in and take whatever is by the door (usually purses).

              My doors are dead bolted after 9 until 3. I typically remotely unlock the front door after nap time either through my Wink app or through Alexa and have the front camera displayed on my iPad from 3-4:30 (pick up times). I have a couple kids I trust with how to unlock doors and we go over emergency procedures monthly. But I am not comfortable leaving doors unlocked during the day... even in a nice neighborhood.
              A couple years ago there was a rash of people that had their garage doors open and they were doing yardwork in the back and they were robbed. One of my daycare dads is a sergeant in our police dept and he said most break ins are during the day, not at night and typically it's through an unlocked door. Whether it's a house or car. They don't want to break windows and draw attention to themselves, so they try for unlocked things.

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              • Blackcat31
                • Oct 2010
                • 36124

                #22
                Originally posted by Snowmom
                So weird because my licensor has never even questioned my locks. I even have one of those high flip locks like in hotel rooms (I only use those at night).
                I keep doors dead bolted during business hours. There have been numerous instances of people casing surrounding neighborhoods and searching for unlocked doors to enter/rob. Lots of local stories of robberies done this way and even some entering open garage doors while occupants ARE HOME- they enter opened garage doors, enter the access door to the house, peek in and take whatever is by the door (usually purses).

                My doors are dead bolted after 9 until 3. I typically remotely unlock the front door after nap time either through my Wink app or through Alexa and have the front camera displayed on my iPad from 3-4:30 (pick up times). I have a couple kids I trust with how to unlock doors and we go over emergency procedures monthly. But I am not comfortable leaving doors unlocked during the day... even in a nice neighborhood.
                Feeling the need to clarify here, I never said we have regulations stating our doors need to be locked/unlocked during the day.

                I just had my off year license renewal visit.
                She discussed accessibility and means of escape.

                We aren't required to keep our doors locked or unlocked. Its your choice. However, the doors must be able to be opened from the inside with relative ease in case of fire per the fire marshall according to my licensor.

                There are no hard set rules or regulations in our state that I am aware of so locking your door (or not locking it) is your choice.

                I don't keep my door locked nor do I worry about criminal activity or break ins etc. I live in a community that is much smaller than yours. The culture of safety/security up here is much different than in metro areas.

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                • storybookending
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2017
                  • 1484

                  #23
                  I live in a community where a lot of people don’t even lock their doors at night, let alone during the day. I went to get my taxes done Monday night and my garage door wouldn’t go down bc of snow build up and I didn’t even think twice about it wide open and just left and returned a few hours later. My neighbors regularly keep their garage doors open during the day when they’re gone and even sometimes throughout the night.

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                  • storybookending
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1484

                    #24
                    Also thought I would add another story. I bought a playhouse this summer from an online Facebook group. It was a daycare day so I couldn’t leave my house until after 5 and the woman I was buying it from had to be somewhere at 5. She just sent me her address and told me the playhouse was in the backyard and instructed me to just walk into the garage and leave the money on the shelf. Now I’m not sure I would go as far to do something like this.. possibly with an item of lesser value but that’s just the kind of area I live in which I assume is sort of like how BC lives.

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                    • Snowmom
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 1689

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blackcat31
                      I don't keep my door locked nor do I worry about criminal activity or break ins etc. I live in a community that is much smaller than yours. The culture of safety/security up here is much different than in metro areas.
                      Once bears start to figure out how to open doors, you're in big trouble. ::::

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                      • Blackcat31
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 36124

                        #26
                        Originally posted by storybookending
                        but that’s just the kind of area I live in which I assume is sort of like how BC lives.
                        Yes! Exactly! I have often times left items I've sold to someone online and had them leave the $ in X spot.

                        There are just as many open garage doors on my block as closed ones.

                        Originally posted by Snowmom
                        Once bears start to figure out how to open doors, you're in big trouble. ::::
                        https://youtu.be/DhxBvEPHovs
                        This is true! But thankfully most the bears stay out of town verses in town but I will definitely lock my doors when they start figuring out how to open them. ::

                        At my "home" I don't lock the doors either. I am not even sure we have keys to certain doors...if we do, I don't know where they would be. I have no curtains or window treatments either. Who (other than wildlife) is looking in? kwim?

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                        • storybookending
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1484

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Blackcat31
                          Yes! Exactly! I have often times left items I've sold to someone online and had them leave the $ in X spot.

                          There are just as many open garage doors on my block as closed ones.



                          This is true! But thankfully most the bears stay out of town verses in town but I will definitely lock my doors when they start figuring out how to open them. ::

                          At my "home" I don't lock the doors either. I am not even sure we have keys to certain doors...if we do, I don't know where they would be. I have no curtains or window treatments either. Who (other than wildlife) is looking in? kwim?
                          I recall getting off the bus in the late 90s or early 00s (I was 10ish my sister was 8ish). My bus driver said it didn’t look like anyone was home. I told her no one ever was when we got off. She said okay lock your doors when you get inside a weird van she didn’t recognize was behind the bus. I looked her right in the eye and said “but all of our doors don’t even have locks” haha. My parents have never had curtains and up until a few years ago didn’t even have blinds. I find that I myself now even though living in town that I do have blinds/curtains (although cheap ones) but I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve closed them.

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                          • MomBoss
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 788

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Blackcat31
                            I understand your viewpoint but I don't share your thoughts. I don't feel keeping the door locked keeps anyone safer necessarily. I also don't live in a community that generates paranoia in regards to safety.

                            If I did live in a larger metro area, I may think/feel differently but then again, if I lived in a larger metro area I probably wouldn't be a child care provider either.
                            I live in the city. There have been so many break ins and robberys lately in my area its crazy. I onced lived in a safe neighborhood. I am questioning that now.

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                            • Pestle
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • May 2016
                              • 1729

                              #29
                              I don't know about pedophiles, but my licensing evaluator walked into the house today while I was in the bathroom dealing with a bodily function. Whaddaya gonna do? :: She was going to stop in this afternoon. The house was dark, there was a sign on the door saying not to ring the bell during nap time, and I was sitting on the toilet thinking "Oh, she is totally going to show up RIGHT NOW."

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                              • lovemykidstoo
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 4740

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Pestle
                                I don't know about pedophiles, but my licensing evaluator walked into the house today while I was in the bathroom dealing with a bodily function. Whaddaya gonna do? :: She was going to stop in this afternoon. The house was dark, there was a sign on the door saying not to ring the bell during nap time, and I was sitting on the toilet thinking "Oh, she is totally going to show up RIGHT NOW."
                                Oh no! hahahahaa That is funny!

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