At What Age Do You Let Dc Kids Outside W/O You?

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  • DCMom
    Advanced Daycare.com Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 871

    #16
    Originally posted by Missani
    Funny, Blackcat, because I know that "within sight and/or hearing" line is posted in the rule book regarding SAs and other things, but my licensor uses that EXACT EXACT phrase. I do live in MN, but I live completely on the other end of the state from you, so it is not the same licensor. Maybe it's a licensing line that they learn or something. ::
    That's word for word what mine says too, . They must learn it in Licensing School

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    • Blackcat31
      • Oct 2010
      • 36124

      #17
      Originally posted by Missani
      Funny, Blackcat, because I know that "within sight and/or hearing" line is posted in the rule book regarding SAs and other things, but my licensor uses that EXACT EXACT phrase. I do live in MN, but I live completely on the other end of the state from you, so it is not the same licensor. Maybe it's a licensing line that they learn or something. ::
      I bet that is the topic at all licensor trainings. "How to use vague phrases and undefineable terms." or "How to sound like you know exactly what your talking about when you really have no idea." LOL! ::

      Sorry, that was uncalled for but I couldn't help it...it's Friday and I am giddy b/c I am done in less than an hour!!!!

      I actually LOVE my licensor...I seriously doubt anyone has one as awesome as mine! She answers her phone 99% of the time and if not she returns phone calls immediately and usually has some really good advice/info/resources and most of all she always takes time to listen to all of the providers in our county.

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      • AmandasFCC
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 423

        #18
        I would send my own dd out at 3 to play on her own, as long as I could supervise her from inside, but never a dck. That said, licensing wouldn't allow me to anyway.

        I had a 7 and 10 year old in care last year, and even THEY couldn't be trusted outside alone while I was in my kitchen watching their every move.

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        • Childminder
          Advanced Daycare.com Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 1500

          #19
          Use your own judgment if you don't have a concrete rule from state. Personally I would not let a 3yr old outside w/o being there.

          Ours states:Type of Supervision Required Based on Age, Activity, and Location of the Child
          SITUATION
          BIRTH to 2 1/2 YEARS 2 1/2 to SCHOOL-AGE SCHOOL-AGE
          INSIDE/AWAKE DIRECT INDIRECT INDIRECT
          INSIDE/ASLEEP INDIRECT INDIRECT INDIRECT
          BASEMENT/AWAKE DIRECT DIRECT INDIRECT a
          BASEMENT/ASLEEP DIRECT DIRECT DIRECT
          OUTSIDE DIRECT DIRECT b INDIRECT c
          a. School-age children may play in an approved basement use area with indirect supervision provided
          they are able to demonstrate they can readily open and exit through the door or exit window
          without assistance.
          b. For children 2 1/2 to school-age, indirect supervision may be used providing the outside area is
          fenced, free of hazards, and immediately adjacent to the home.
          c. School-age children may go down the block to a nearby playground, bike in the immediate
          neighborhood or wait at a bus stop with written parental permission specifying:
          * Clear boundaries for the children's travels.
          * Time frames for checking out and checking back in. Children, parents and the caregiver
          should have an understanding of the safety of the neighborhood.
          For the purposes of this rule, school-age is defined as any child attending kindergarten or a higher
          grade.
          I see little people.

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          • e.j.
            Daycare.com Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 3738

            #20
            I wouldn't feel comfortable letting any of the children in my care -- especially a 3 year old -- play outside without me being out there with them.

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            • ammama
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 192

              #21
              Here, it is school age and higher. I have let 5 year olds play in the backyard where I can see them through the glass door. My own child, I will let play out there this summer I think, she will be almost 3. My 7 year old of course plays outside alone all the time. Our yard is fully fenced.

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              • JenNJ
                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 1212

                #22
                I have a fully fenced yard with a play structure and only my son (5 years) is allowed outside alone. Even then, he knows I have to be able to see him from the house so no going to the far spots in the yard or around the other side of my garage.

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                • heyhun77
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 370

                  #23
                  Here it is school age and older. Accreditation standards are ages 6 and older can be outside on their own.

                  Personally, I don't allow the kids in my care to be outside without me. There are a few exceptions to that which would include the school agers but I agree that you never know what they may get into or do while you're not looking.

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                  • SilverSabre25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 7585

                    #24
                    I occasionally let my own 3yo outside alone--in warm weather, with the front door left open so I can hear her. The front yard is fenced, don't freak out...

                    If my house was a different set-up (bi-level, backyard not accessible from the main/top level of the home), I would totally let her outside alone ALL THE TIME because she's trustworthy and our yard is fenced. Daycare kiddos...would depend, but since our set-up is annoying (where's that lottery money so I can renovate the kitchen and put a door to the back in there?!) it's not even a question.

                    That said, since the front is fenced, I do send each kid outside the door as soon as I have his/her shoes/coat/etc on. I do it in age-order (oldest to youngest) and the door is open behind me (storm door shut in the winter though but I can see), but technically they're alone for a short period. Our door opens onto a tiny landing though and there's not much space.
                    Hee hee! Look, I have a signature!

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                    • daysofelijah
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 286

                      #25
                      I was told they have to be school age so that's what I go by. Although my neighbor who has been doing daycare for like 30 years lets all her kids outside unsupervised and no one seems to bother her about it. So who knows? Personally I say 5 is a good rule. I do let my dd (3) out to play when her brothers (6&7) are out, but only during non daycare hours.

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                      • melissa ann
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 736

                        #26
                        In this day and age, I don't know when I would allow my kids to be out playing alone. Right now, they are only 3 and 6 and I'm always with them when they want to play outside.

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                        • ninosqueridos
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 410

                          #27
                          I never let kids out alone no matter the age (and my yard is fenced-in, no pool). I don't know what the regs say, but I'm sure I'm safer than the regs on this one.

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                          • AAA713
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 16

                            #28
                            I don't leave the kids alone outside at anytime. There is just to much maddness in the world! You never know what may happen all of the sudden, and you never know who could be lurking. Just something I'm not comfortable with.

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                            • Sunny Day
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 121

                              #29
                              Mine are all under 4 and I have a fully fenced back yard. I would never let them play outside without me.

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                              • QualiTcare
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1502

                                #30
                                i would NEVER let dc kids be outside alone - especially not at three. now, i do think the opinions here do differ depending on surroundings (fences, near a street, etc.) because in my last home my answer for even my OWN kids would've been NEVER bc there was a street and no fence. obviously, if i wouldn't let my own kids do it then dc kids would be out of the question.

                                where i live now my OWN kids do go outside without me and i don't have a fence - but we live on a huge piece of flat land on a pretty dead street. i have 2 kids so they're allowed out to play TOGETHER - never alone. even though my own kids know the "rules" i have still caught them "out of bounds" and it has made me very nervous and resulted in them not being able to go out alone for long periods of time. kids will be kids - even if they KNOW they aren't supposed to cross a certain point, if they want to catch a butterfly that's beyond that point, they're gonna chase it bc they think you're not looking - and you may not be. i've caught my kids doing this even though the line they weren't supposed to cross was still not dangerous AT ALL - it was scary bc they did do what i told them they couldn't. of course they said, "it's only right there. it's not the street, etc." but still.

                                i'm surprised that a mother would WANT you to let her 3 year old play out alone. i'd never do it - i don't care what a parent wants - no way.

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