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  • Blackcat31
    • Oct 2010
    • 36124

    #16
    Originally posted by happymom
    I agree with this to an extent. I personally would pull my kid if they weren't at least a little bit on board with BLW weaning though.
    While I agree with BLW as a parent, I don't agree that the caregiver (in this particular atmosphere in regards to this profession) should have ANY obligation to observe or practice it.

    It's actually really unfair to expect your caregiver to be at least a little bit on board as there is NO such thing as at least a little bit liable....kwim?

    Imagine if a child did choke and die ....I highly doubt the DHS and/or the law would be accepting of a provider claiming the parent expected her to be at least a little bit on board with it so it's only a little bit the provider's fault.

    MY watch, MY responsibility. PERIOD.

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    • TheMisplacedMidwestMom
      Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2016
      • 728

      #17
      Originally posted by boy_mom
      I used to give my boys cold carrots when they were teething. I was always with them and paying attention if they bit off a chunk.

      I guess to each their own. I would never have asked a caregiver to do the same though, and I certainly wouldn't do it fo a DC child in my care. But if moms comfortable doing it on her own time then that's fine!
      This. I did it with my own kids, but won't do it with the dcks. Cold carrots were a great teether! I also backed off when they had enough teeth to start taking off big hunks.

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      • Play Care
        Daycare.com Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 6642

        #18
        Originally posted by lovemykidstoo
        Those ****ing pouches are just gross . I have seen my dck's with them, but I don't buy them myself.
        Me either, so I've got some hungry kids.

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        • mommyneedsadayoff
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 1754

          #19
          Originally posted by CityGarden
          I give raw carrots to my tiny dog because she is teething and it seems to give her relief.
          I have an 8 month old old small dog who is chewing everything...i wonder if this might help him. Learn something new everyday!::

          As for giving raw or cold veggie for BLW, that is not how I practiced it. For me, they would get extra soft, diced veggie, avocado, egg, ect. The only thing I served raw were fruits, but they were diced very small, with no peel attached, and it was mostly apples and pears. Oranges and grapes were too risky for me. Everyone has their own Comfort level, but I would have a hard time giving raw carrots to a baby with teeth. I'm not even a fan of giving those little snacks that Gerber makes, like rice cakes and such. If you add moisture, they don't necessarily dissolve, but can formulate into a little cement ball of food. I've had a close call 2 times and that was the end of those. plus they have very little nutritional value.

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          • lovemykidstoo
            Daycare.com Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 4740

            #20
            Originally posted by Blackcat31
            While I agree with BLW as a parent, I don't agree that the caregiver (in this particular atmosphere in regards to this profession) should have ANY obligation to observe or practice it.

            It's actually really unfair to expect your caregiver to be at least a little bit on board as there is NO such thing as at least a little bit liable....kwim?

            Imagine if a child did choke and die ....I highly doubt the DHS and/or the law would be accepting of a provider claiming the parent expected her to be at least a little bit on board with it so it's only a little bit the provider's fault.

            MY watch, MY responsibility. PERIOD.
            Exactly, thank you. When the mother has said twice now that she's had to take pieces and they weren't small scrapings of carrot out of his mouth, that scares me about choking. I've had to basically save a child from choking here and it's not something you forget. Besides the fact that she's not feeding him the carrot, so it's really not a eating type of situation (BLW). My own opinion is I just don't see how it's safe when he has 2 upper and 2 lower front teeth that he can easily bite a piece off and choke. There are many other ways to satisfy a teething baby. Maybe I'm totally wrong. But, like you BC, not on my watch.

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            • happymom
              Daycare.com Member
              • May 2015
              • 1809

              #21
              Originally posted by Blackcat31
              While I agree with BLW as a parent, I don't agree that the caregiver (in this particular atmosphere in regards to this profession) should have ANY obligation to observe or practice it.

              It's actually really unfair to expect your caregiver to be at least a little bit on board as there is NO such thing as at least a little bit liable....kwim?

              Imagine if a child did choke and die ....I highly doubt the DHS and/or the law would be accepting of a provider claiming the parent expected her to be at least a little bit on board with it so it's only a little bit the provider's fault.

              MY watch, MY responsibility. PERIOD.
              I'm not saying to do stuff like this (that could be construed as a risk) -- but if a caregiver refused to give my child actual food -- and only wanted to offer purees or baby cereal, I'd absolutely pack up and take my kid somewhere else.

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              • lovemykidstoo
                Daycare.com Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 4740

                #22
                Originally posted by happymom
                I'm not saying to do stuff like this (that could be construed as a risk) -- but if a caregiver refused to give my child actual food -- and only wanted to offer purees or baby cereal, I'd absolutely pack up and take my kid somewhere else.
                That is not the situation though. I am not refusing regular foods at all. She doesn't have him on regular foods now except cheerios. She is not "feeding" the carrot to him, but letting him chew on it for teething. Totally different than refusing foods.

                I've looked at the top 10 choking risks for children and every single one has raw vegetables on it.

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                • happymom
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 1809

                  #23
                  Originally posted by lovemykidstoo
                  Exactly, thank you. When the mother has said twice now that she's had to take pieces and they weren't small scrapings of carrot out of his mouth, that scares me about choking. I've had to basically save a child from choking here and it's not something you forget. Besides the fact that she's not feeding him the carrot, so it's really not a eating type of situation (BLW). My own opinion is I just don't see how it's safe when he has 2 upper and 2 lower front teeth that he can easily bite a piece off and choke. There are many other ways to satisfy a teething baby. Maybe I'm totally wrong. But, like you BC, not on my watch.
                  No, you're not wrong. I wouldn't do it if it weren't my kid. My daycare used to give teething kids frozen waffles, I always liked that.

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                  • Rockgirl
                    Daycare.com Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 2204

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lovemykidstoo
                    Exactly, thank you. When the mother has said twice now that she's had to take pieces and they weren't small scrapings of carrot out of his mouth, that scares me about choking. I've had to basically save a child from choking here and it's not something you forget. Besides the fact that she's not feeding him the carrot, so it's really not a eating type of situation (BLW). My own opinion is I just don't see how it's safe when he has 2 upper and 2 lower front teeth that he can easily bite a piece off and choke. There are many other ways to satisfy a teething baby. Maybe I'm totally wrong. But, like you BC, not on my watch.
                    I’m with you—I wouldn’t give a baby a carrot. I’m very cautious about babies & toddlers with food. I use my kitchen shears to chop their food into very small pieces. Even my preschoolers get matchstick carrots.

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                    • Blackcat31
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 36124

                      #25
                      Originally posted by happymom
                      I'm not saying to do stuff like this (that could be construed as a risk) -- but if a caregiver refused to give my child actual food -- and only wanted to offer purees or baby cereal, I'd absolutely pack up and take my kid somewhere else.
                      This I agree with 100%.

                      I usually skip baby foods all together and encourage "real" food. The results are so much more positive than those kids that aren't allowed to experience textures and such.

                      It's important that parents and providers work TOWARDS a common goal.

                      I thought you meant you'd pull your child if your provider wouldn't give your baby a raw carrot just because you as the parent does/said to...

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                      • happymom
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 1809

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Blackcat31
                        I thought you meant you'd pull your child if your provider wouldn't give your baby a raw carrot just because you as the parent does/said to...
                        Haha, no. I'd drop the carrot thing as soon as the provider questioned it.

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                        • Indoorvoice
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1109

                          #27
                          I practice BLW in my daycare but NEVER with raw fruits or vegetables. Everything is soft Cooked so if they do get a chunk, they can mush it up. I would never give a raw carrot to a baby.

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                          • lovemykidstoo
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4740

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Indoorvoice
                            I practice BLW in my daycare but NEVER with raw fruits or vegetables. Everything is soft Cooked so if they do get a chunk, they can mush it up. I would never give a raw carrot to a baby.
                            Right! Same here. I just want to be clear on what's happening. This isn't anything she's doing for BLW, but strictly for teething. I think it's highly dangerous too. I stick to the teethers that you freeze. I don't use food as a teether. Too risky.

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                            • Jamie
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 65

                              #29
                              Nope, no way! Raw carrots have no business in my business.
                              Luckily I'm licensed in Denmark, where it is highly recommended NOT to give the under 3s raw carrots or similar hard fruit/vegetables. But I wouldn't do it anyway.

                              I attended a First Aid course once where they explained that a carrot "splinches" into such tiny pieces that they can find their way into the lungs where it is almost if not entirely impossible to operate them out! A bigger piece of carrot is so hard that a baby simply does not have the lung capacity to cough it up!

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                              • lovemykidstoo
                                Daycare.com Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 4740

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jamie
                                Nope, no way! Raw carrots have no business in my business.
                                Luckily I'm licensed in Denmark, where it is highly recommended NOT to give the under 3s raw carrots or similar hard fruit/vegetables. But I wouldn't do it anyway.

                                I attended a First Aid course once where they explained that a carrot "splinches" into such tiny pieces that they can find their way into the lungs where it is almost if not entirely impossible to operate them out! A bigger piece of carrot is so hard that a baby simply does not have the lung capacity to cough it up!
                                That is scary! So if mom brings it up again, what do you guys recommend I say, if anything? She's not asking that I let him sooth his teething here with a carrot, but is mentioning that she does it at home.

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