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  • Homebody
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 205

    #31
    Originally posted by hwichlaz
    Isn’t that the reason for a snap in base though?
    That's what I always thought.

    Originally posted by Snowmom
    It's not a good idea to constantly be removing carseats.
    Even infant seats.

    Each time it's taken out, there's a greater likelihood it won't be reinstalled properly or as tightly.
    Plus, car seats are largely made of plastics. Cracks and warps can happen with force and the elements. Think of how many parents bring in their carseat to the grocery store and plop them in carts. I've seen so much damage on the bottom of infant seats from shopping carts! One little piece of broken or wedged plastic can prevent that carseat from latching properly to it's base.
    This has never occurred to me. Is there documentation on this online that can be printed out to show parents?

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    • Country Kids
      Nature Lover
      • Mar 2011
      • 5051

      #32
      Homebody, if you have quite a few in car seats maybe hold a car seat class in your home. The local fire dept may be willing to come out and have one for you.

      If you don't have a lot, you could also open up to other providers and their clients. Would be a good way to educate from the professionals.
      Each day is a fresh start
      Never look back on regrets
      Live life to the fullest
      We only get one shot at this!!

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      • Snowmom
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 1689

        #33
        Originally posted by Homebody
        That's what I always thought.



        This has never occurred to me. Is there documentation on this online that can be printed out to show parents?
        It's discussed every time I take C.A.R.S. training.
        I don't know if any of their brochures have stats.

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        • Country Kids
          Nature Lover
          • Mar 2011
          • 5051

          #34
          Originally posted by happymom
          My current daycare center doesn't have a problem keeping carseats. EVERY DAY there are like 10 seats left in the lobby waiting to be switched to another car: boosters (with no covers even), convertibles, combination seats and bucket seats. Some I know to be expired.

          I personally don't understand it, when I can buy a second seat for $10-40 and not have to deal with the mess of uninstalling and carrying a seat into the daycare each day.

          BUT the daycare won't give "parenting advice" -- so unless the parents figure it out on their own, they will continue to have a "car seat parking" area in the daycare, .
          A friend of mine that works at a center told me the same thing-lots of car seats brought in and out each day. They have a special room for them to go into or something but not out of the norm for them to be left there.
          Each day is a fresh start
          Never look back on regrets
          Live life to the fullest
          We only get one shot at this!!

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          • Blackcat31
            • Oct 2010
            • 36124

            #35
            Originally posted by Homebody
            This topic is raising a lot more questions for me. One of those is if there's a small chance I can be held liable for the carseat not being installed properly, then there would be the chance I could be held liable for them not being restrained properly (if done in the car) either.

            It wouldn't surprise me if they passed regulations requiring dc providers to start checking if children are restrained and car seats properly installed. Just another class we would have to take.
            Here is Tom Copeland's advice about that:

            Q: “I cannot see cars when parents/caregivers pick-up, so unless they state they don’t have a car seat, how am I supposed to be responsible if there is no car seat (if they don’t say anything)?”

            A: You want to have a transportation policy that says parents are supposed to have appropriate car seats. If you don’t see them picking up without a car seat, you are not liable.

            Family child care providers face two potential risks when parents pick up their children under the influence of alcohol or drugs or fail to use a car seat. Providers who fail to report a child at risk can be accused of violating their responsibility as a mandated reporter of child neglect and could


            Basically, the BEST way to protect yourself according to Tom Copeland is to have a written transportation policy.

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            • Blackcat31
              • Oct 2010
              • 36124

              #36
              Originally posted by Homebody
              That's what I always thought.



              This has never occurred to me. Is there documentation on this online that can be printed out to show parents?
              Here is some great info about car seats (some have printable resources)





              According to a certified car seat technician and pediatrician; over 95% of parents install the car seat incorrectly.
              If that is the case, imagine how much worse it is when the parent takes it out an puts it back in on a daily basis.
              Installing car seats and then positioning your child in them may be among the most nerve-wracking things you have to do after discharge with your newborn. And you’re almost certainly doing it wrong — even if it’s not your first rodeo. Only 5% of families installed their car seats and positioned [...]

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              • daycarediva
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 11698

                #37
                Originally posted by Snowmom
                It's not a good idea to constantly be removing carseats.
                Even infant seats.

                Each time it's taken out, there's a greater likelihood it won't be reinstalled properly or as tightly.
                Plus, car seats are largely made of plastics. Cracks and warps can happen with force and the elements. Think of how many parents bring in their carseat to the grocery store and plop them in carts. I've seen so much damage on the bottom of infant seats from shopping carts! One little piece of broken or wedged plastic can prevent that carseat from latching properly to it's base.
                Yes. I didn't even have infant seats for my youngest we went straight to a convertible 5 point harness rear facing at birth. I baby wore, or brought a moses basket everywhere I couldn't wear him (like dc or grandma's to drop off).

                Easy peasy.

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                • Homebody
                  Daycare.com Member
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 205

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31
                  Here is Tom Copeland's advice about that:

                  Q: “I cannot see cars when parents/caregivers pick-up, so unless they state they don’t have a car seat, how am I supposed to be responsible if there is no car seat (if they don’t say anything)?”

                  A: You want to have a transportation policy that says parents are supposed to have appropriate car seats. If you don’t see them picking up without a car seat, you are not liable.

                  Family child care providers face two potential risks when parents pick up their children under the influence of alcohol or drugs or fail to use a car seat. Providers who fail to report a child at risk can be accused of violating their responsibility as a mandated reporter of child neglect and could


                  Basically, the BEST way to protect yourself according to Tom Copeland is to have a written transportation policy.
                  Originally posted by Blackcat31
                  Here is some great info about car seats (some have printable resources)





                  According to a certified car seat technician and pediatrician; over 95% of parents install the car seat incorrectly.
                  If that is the case, imagine how much worse it is when the parent takes it out an puts it back in on a daily basis.
                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahae.../#f210e9546d34
                  Thanks for the info. I will definitely check them out. Just when I thought I had everything covered in my policies

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                  • Alwaysgreener
                    Home Child Care Provider
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2521

                    #39
                    I don't let them leave car seats but I never have said that they couldn't bring them in. Parents have tried to leave them here, but when I say no, they always seem to work something out.
                    However when the most recent DCM asked my response was, I don't all them because car seats can transfer bed bugs. She was shocked and admitted she never thought of that and said they'd work it out.

                    Really reason is they're in my way and I kept having to move them or step of them all the time. Plus my first family I had kept acussing me of messing with the straps.

                    OP - I would take Tom's advice and tell her your lawyer has advised you to not allow the seats in your home. Or use the bed bug reason, it worked for me.

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                    • Play Care
                      Daycare.com Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 6642

                      #40
                      Originally posted by 284878
                      I don't let them leave car seats but I never have said that they couldn't bring them in. Parents have tried to leave them here, but when I say no, they always seem to work something out.
                      However when the most recent DCM asked my response was, I don't all them because car seats can transfer bed bugs. She was shocked and admitted she never thought of that and said they'd work it out.

                      Really reason is they're in my way and I kept having to move them or step of them all the time. Plus my first family I had kept acussing me of messing with the straps.

                      OP - I would take Tom's advice and tell her your lawyer has advised you to not allow the seats in your home. Or use the bed bug reason, it worked for me.
                      The space issue was mine also. I usually only take one under one, but the past year I juggled three under 1 Every one wanted to have their bucket seat here and I was constantly tripping over them. Now they have the toddler convertible seats and those ****ers are HUGE. I reached my limit.

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                      • Homebody
                        Daycare.com Member
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 205

                        #41
                        Originally posted by 284878
                        I don't let them leave car seats but I never have said that they couldn't bring them in. Parents have tried to leave them here, but when I say no, they always seem to work something out.
                        However when the most recent DCM asked my response was, I don't all them because car seats can transfer bed bugs. She was shocked and admitted she never thought of that and said they'd work it out.

                        Really reason is they're in my way and I kept having to move them or step of them all the time. Plus my first family I had kept acussing me of messing with the straps.

                        OP - I would take Tom's advice and tell her your lawyer has advised you to not allow the seats in your home. Or use the bed bug reason, it worked for me.
                        Originally posted by Play Care
                        The space issue was mine also. I usually only take one under one, but the past year I juggled three under 1 Every one wanted to have their bucket seat here and I was constantly tripping over them. Now they have the toddler convertible seats and those ****ers are HUGE. I reached my limit.
                        This is why I recently changed my policy. I had one infant a year ago and no place to store his carseat, so I left by front door. We have an open area and no way to block off. It was a constant battle to keep the kids off of it. My husband and I have a group daycare and can have up to 4 infants (not sure if we will ever have that many at once). Even if we ever have 3 infants I couldn't imagine having 3 car seats sitting there and constantly keeping guard on them. So, we decided no more car seats in the house, it's not worth the headache.

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