Daycare Provider Get 21 Years In Prison

[Josiegirl]

Don't worry about me disagreeing with you. Sometimes even parents should be punished for poor parenting.

Yep, same here. I feel parents have to step up and choose child care very carefully. I cannot imagine otherwise. It's not like buying a bad pair of shoes you can return to the store. Your child's life is in someone else's hands, usually full work weeks. And basically, parents don't know what's going on. That's why I could never leave my own children with anyone else. I cannot imagine the amount of trust and faith a parent needs to have to do that.
A couple years ago in our state, a little dcb drowned in a stream at a dc. Many parents had made remarks, after the tragic event, that they had noticed things that were off.....:confused::confused: but evidently no one raised any red flags or concerns with the state. I 2nd guess myself about a whole lotta stuff every day but when it came to my kids, I did not. If my gut felt strange, I wouldn't allow whatever was happening to happen.

[happymom]

As a parent who was part of a similar situation, I have a VERY hard time blaming the parents.

Providers that lie know how to cover their butts.

I was referred to my in home (unlicensed) daycare provider by a friend. Provider was my friends cousin, she had just moved here from a neighboring city about 20 minutes away and her current clients were commuting until they found new care closer to their home/work.

I was a new mom. My son was 11 weeks old. I went to her house for a tour, asked the normal questions, got references. I called and spoke to her past clients, overkill? I dunno.

Everything checked out. I knew she was unlicensed. But by this point I trusted her. I met with a half dozen daycare facilities and in home facilities, she was perfect in my eyes. Being unlicensed didn't bother me, who needs a state agency watching everything you do and nitpicking.

Just saying, you DON'T know what kinds of parents these are. What happened was they left their kids under someone else's care and their kids were left alone, injured and drugged. Are they the type of parents who look for a last minute babysitter on facebook yardsale pages? Maybe. But you don't know that.

[Play Care]

This was absolutely terrible and she deserved a long sentence. I also agree with Blackcat that some of the parents here also do bear some responsibility. How much time do they spend online/social media and they couldn't be bothered to really look up the person they left their child with?!

But I do think we need to be clear here, she was NOT a Child Care Provider. She was POSING as one to make money.
If someone who gets caught pretending to be a police officer, the headline wouldn't read "Police Officer arrested."

[Blackcat31]

As a parent who was part of a similar situation, I have a VERY hard time blaming the parents.

Providers that lie know how to cover their butts.

I was referred to my in home (unlicensed) daycare provider by a friend. Provider was my friends cousin, she had just moved here from a neighboring city about 20 minutes away and her current clients were commuting until they found new care closer to their home/work.

I was a new mom. My son was 11 weeks old. I went to her house for a tour, asked the normal questions, got references. I called and spoke to her past clients, overkill? I dunno.

Everything checked out. I knew she was unlicensed. But by this point I trusted her. I met with a half dozen daycare facilities and in home facilities, she was perfect in my eyes. Being unlicensed didn't bother me, who needs a state agency watching everything you do and nitpicking.

Just saying, you DON'T know what kinds of parents these are. What happened was they left their kids under someone else's care and their kids were left alone, injured and drugged. Are they the type of parents who look for a last minute babysitter on facebook yardsale pages? Maybe. But you don't know that.

FWIW~ I am not entirely blaming the parents but I do think they bear some responsibility.
Not in a black and white way.

There are several different articles online about this situation and in several of them I read statements from parents that openly stated they had doubts and/or suspicions etc but yet failed to act on any of them.

Those ARE the parents I feel bear a partial responsibility in this.

You had a similar situation...you felt something was off. Rather than continue to blindly trust your provider, you opted instead to remove them and to look elsewhere.

That is what I expect most parents would do.

I also don't expect parents to just blindly trust me. I expect them to look my name/info and record up on our state's licensing look up, I expect them to do their due diligence in researching anything about me they need to do in order to feel comfortable leaving their child in my care and if at ANY time they have something that makes them uncomfortable or leery to ask me, ask licensing, ask other parent etc... but above all else, do not bring your child back to any environment or to any caregiver you dont feel comfortable using.

I wouldn't blame any parent for anything that happens in child care that they were not aware of...because you are correct in stating that there are some providers that do know how to lie and cover their butts but when you (general you as a parent) are suspicious but still return then some of the blame does fall on you.

[happymom]

But I do think we need to be clear here, she was NOT a Child Care Provider. She was POSING as one to make money.
If someone who gets caught pretending to be a police officer, the headline wouldn't read "Police Officer arrested."

This too. Poor kids

[Country Kids]

Today there was a news article about a mom leaving a child alone in the car for 1/2 an hour while she was in doing laundry or something at a store. The child was 6 and I guess the car wasn't totally visible from where the mom was.

There was nothing said of why the mom left the child in the car so just upto speculation.

[daycarediva]

WHO WROTE THAT?

That was incredibly difficult to understand with the 'he said' 'she said'. Whatever happened to proof reading?

Was the provider's own child left alone? or just the daycare?

Some of the complaints- raiding snacks, not sleeping through the night at a year, constipation, are RIDICULOUS and I hope she (despite deserving of this sentence) is NOT charged with neglect or another crime due to those allegations.

I took several children from a crappy illegal daycare. It's rough. Parents, and children, are starting to trust me, but it definitely takes time. I had a LOT of 'pop ins'.

Did a LOT of 'facebook live' videoing and posting updates super often.

[Country Kids]

It was several children left alone at a childcare so the provider could go tanning, go to the gym, shopping, etc.

Happened several times a week it seems. The police did a "raid" on it when she left one time and after that the reports started coming in from parents. One of which a child ended up needing to be life flighted but had to go by ambulance due to weather.

[hwichlaz]

I don't have a link-sorry! I was just today saw an article where California is losing childcare's because of all the new laws, QRIS, expectations, etc. California it seems is starting to be in a crisis mode for home daycare.

I’ve been licensed in California for 18 years. There haven’t been many changes at all, and QRIS is not required, nor will it be any time soon. It’s voluntary, and it doesn’t get you any higher pay rate.

[hwichlaz]

Today there was a news article about a mom leaving a child alone in the car for 1/2 an hour while she was in doing laundry or something at a store. The child was 6 and I guess the car wasn't totally visible from where the mom was.

There was nothing said of why the mom left the child in the car so just upto speculation.

That’s not even illegal if it was in California, if the child could have gone to get mom at any time. The law for not leaving children alone in the car is for kids under 6. It’s a poorly written law, and too much is left up to interpretation, which is NEVER a good thing. You’ll eventually get some cop with his panties in a bunch contacting CPS because mom left 4 kids in the car to run in to pay for gas at the gas station when the card reader at the pump didn’t work. Leaving children buckled into their seats in that situation is much safer than crossing a gas station lot with several children that you can’t hold onto at once. Parents need to be able to make some judgment calls. My girls would have been fine sitting in the car reading a book or playing a game while I switched laundry around at 6. My son wouldn’t have been comfortable doing it and would have come with me. But both of my girls would have much rather not had their reading interrupted, . AND once someone tried to open our car door and get in when my oldest was sitting in the car reading....guess what...she did great. She laid on the horn so I’d come out. The poor man was scared to death...he was driving a car identical to ours and simply tried to stick his key in the wrong car door. :::: I was at the ATM that time.

[Play Care]

That’s not even illegal if it was in California, if the child could have gone to get mom at any time. The law for not leaving children alone in the car is for kids under 6. It’s a poorly written law, and too much is left up to interpretation, which is NEVER a good thing. You’ll eventually get some cop with his panties in a bunch contacting CPS because mom left 4 kids in the car to run in to pay for gas at the gas station when the card reader at the pump didn’t work. Leaving children buckled into their seats in that situation is much safer than crossing a gas station lot with several children that you can’t hold onto at once. Parents need to be able to make some judgment calls. My girls would have been fine sitting in the car reading a book or playing a game while I switched laundry around at 6. My son wouldn’t have been comfortable doing it and would have come with me. But both of my girls would have much rather not had their reading interrupted, . AND once someone tried to open our car door and get in when my oldest was sitting in the car reading....guess what...she did great. She laid on the horn so I’d come out. The poor man was scared to death...he was driving a car identical to ours and simply tried to stick his key in the wrong car door. :::: I was at the ATM that time.

Yes! When I was bringing my whole crew to preschool, I had an arrangement with the school where I would park right up front, take the child out, walk him to the bottom of the steps and send him in. The teacher would wave from inside and I'd get back in the car and go on my merry way. I *never* was out of sight of the car. The steps are literally a few feet from the curb. And yet this other mom would come and stand at my car (while I was about two feet away) and act as if she was doing me a favor by "staying" with the kids. I said to her "I'm RIGHT here" Even the preschool teacher was like I could see if I were in the building, but that never happened. It was bizarre.

[Georgiads]

I definitely don’t have patience for people who want to take the cheapest and easiest route when it comes to childcare and still expect 5 star quality.

I’ve had lazy parents who can’t be bothered to dress their child or comb their hair or bathe them tell me that nannies are too expensive, but I see they’ve just purchased a new luxury car.


I would never leave my child with anyone who gave me reason to wonder. If I was suspicious about something I would initiate a conversation with the provider and then decide if it was a misunderstanding or if I needed to immediately remove my child from the situation. If I use FMLA or have to leave my job so be it.