Playpen With Higher Sides??? NAUGHTY 2 Year Old!!

[happykidschildcare]

get rid of him

Think of the other kids in your care, totally unfair to the other DCK's to have to deal with that, I would be more worried about parents pulling thier children out of care because of this Childs behaviour. ( Kids learn what they see) If he doesnt get with the program after the first 2 wks, he's probably not going to workout. I would not want to deal with the constant stress of worrying about him hurting other DCK's and just let him go.
I have a 2 week trial period in my contract giving both parties the option to bow out. And I have used it a few times over the years. Just sayin...

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

I have had the child almost a year, took him in when he was 16 months...he was young yet and had the slight throwing/hitting issue...he was so young and didn't quite understand in my opinion...but now he's getting older and things are getting worse and the throwing/hitting is more agressive as he grows older and stronger and more frequent.

I can't say what is going on at home as I'm not there.. child lives with his mom and grandma (the mom's mom), the father is not in the picture... and from what I gather there doesn't seem to be enough discipline when he throws things at the mom and grandma (yes I know he does this because the mom and grandma tell me) and he's the baby and is oh so cute....but I'm not there and don't know what happens so can't say for sure, but from what I see he's spoiled and doesn't have enough firm rules for his naughty behavior. And if he does, it certainly isn't showing here.

But I have been firm with him and letting the child know this negative behavior isn't acceptable here for months and it's doing no good. I guess a part of me is/was hoping it was just a stage and he'll grow out of it, but as time passes, I'm losing hope and feel it's going the other way around...getting worse.

[Unregistered]

How many hours a week is the child in your care? It sounds like the child has been exposed to abuse, or alternatively has learned that he can do no evil (by your daughter not being firm with him), or he could have good intolerances, a disorder, or it could be the very discipline strategy you used with him. You had him for a substantial amount of time yet all blame is pinned on the mother. Ever consider that putting a toddler in a corner is not actually guiding into more positive habits. You are teaching him that you are more powerful than him, which alleviates anger on your behalf but may actually make the problem worse as he feels out of control of his environment. He is still so young and you are all talki about caging him up and strapping him down in high chairs. I can just imagine the screaming - will this really teach a child and form new neurological pathways. No. It may be effective at preventing attacks. It sounds like this was a child in need (looks like an old thread). Get a good baby carrier like an ergo that goes up to 18kg and keep him warm, cuddled and secure and out of trouble. Put all thrown toys up high. Remove dangerous objects from his reach and allow only soft toys down low. This has become a habit and he is struggling to express something. Teach him "gentle hands" (demonstrate, hold his hand and stroke gently) this is how you should have handled it from the beginning rather than reacting in a way that caused frustration and did nothing to actually TEACH. Kids can't learn if you don't teach them.

[MamaBearCanada]

Term.

However, if you will not term he has to come full time until his behavior is under control. He is not with you enough for your rules and consequences to have an effect. 3 hrs a day means there is too much variation in rules and consequence between different providers. Give 2-3 weeks full time and if his behaviour improves then keep him and try dropping back to part time.

Howev, for the sake of the other kids I would term. Also, document everything.

[MyAngels]

Old thread alert .

This child is 5 by now and I'm sure this was solved one way or another

[Maria2013]

I would terminate! I also would not tolerate my own child being abused at daycare.
I would let him go now before you loose other families.
good luck

I'd get rid of him before he seriously harm someone

[Maria2013]

Old thread alert .

This child is 5 by now and I'm sure this was solved one way or another

oops

[MamaBearCanada]

Old thread alert .

This child is 5 by now and I'm sure this was solved one way or another

Oooops.

[JoseyJo]

How many hours a week is the child in your care? It sounds like the child has been exposed to abuse, or alternatively has learned that he can do no evil (by your daughter not being firm with him), or he could have good intolerances, a disorder, or it could be the very discipline strategy you used with him. You had him for a substantial amount of time yet all blame is pinned on the mother. Ever consider that putting a toddler in a corner is not actually guiding into more positive habits. You are teaching him that you are more powerful than him, which alleviates anger on your behalf but may actually make the problem worse as he feels out of control of his environment. He is still so young and you are all talki about caging him up and strapping him down in high chairs. I can just imagine the screaming - will this really teach a child and form new neurological pathways. No. It may be effective at preventing attacks. It sounds like this was a child in need (looks like an old thread). Get a good baby carrier like an ergo that goes up to 18kg and keep him warm, cuddled and secure and out of trouble. Put all thrown toys up high. Remove dangerous objects from his reach and allow only soft toys down low. This has become a habit and he is struggling to express something. Teach him "gentle hands" (demonstrate, hold his hand and stroke gently) this is how you should have handled it from the beginning rather than reacting in a way that caused frustration and did nothing to actually TEACH. Kids can't learn if you don't teach them.

Seriously? Pulling up an old thread and not even reading it thoroughly before responding? (OP stated how many hours she had the child, and it wasn't very many a week)

I am sure after almost 2 years this situation is now resolved! What is your point in bringing up this old thread and "schooling" the OP? Do you want her to teach him "gentle hands" now after 2 years? Do you want her to hold a now 4 year old's hand and stroke it gently? ::::

[Leigh]

Seriously? Pulling up an old thread and not even reading it thoroughly before responding? (OP stated how many hours she had the child, and it wasn't very many a week)

I am sure after almost 2 years this situation is now resolved! What is your point in bringing up this old thread and "schooling" the OP? Do you want her to teach him "gentle hands" now after 2 years? Do you want her to hold a now 4 year old's hand and stroke it gently? ::::

Surely, the person didn't notice the age of the thread (old threads pop up on the bottom of the screen under "similar threads"). Trying to humiliate the person who responded is surely the way to make a newcomer feel welcome...good job!

[Blackcat31]

Surely, the person didn't notice the age of the thread (old threads pop up on the bottom of the screen under "similar threads"). Trying to humiliate the person who responded is surely the way to make a newcomer feel welcome...good job!

This was no more helpful or productive than her post was.

Negativity breeds when added to.

[JoseyJo]

It sounds like this was a child in need (looks like an old thread). Get a good baby carrier

Surely, the person didn't notice the age of the thread (old threads pop up on the bottom of the screen under "similar threads"). Trying to humiliate the person who responded is surely the way to make a newcomer feel welcome...good job!

She/He DID know it was an old post and posted anyway as if it was a new post. My question to "unregistered" is what is the point of her post? She/He knows it is an old post and this issue must be resolved by now but still posted all that advice. Why?

[Michelle]

I had similar problems with a 2 year old...
told dad about it in front of child..
dad took child out to the car and "took care of business"
child came back in ..said sorry and was the best child I have ever had!
when kids know we can't "take care of business" ...then they act this way and get away with it.

I don't believe in having dad or mom do this for every little thing but when the kid KNOWS the parents and provider are on the same page and KNOWS that he is expected to behave or there will be consequences... it makes life so much easier and is good for the kid and group.

[Unregistered]

Sensory Integration

My beloved adorable little 2 year old started impulsively bashing other kids. He was a good sharer and an only child who loved being with other kids but inexplicably started hitting for no apparent cause out of the blue.
I researched and found out about sensory overload. He went to see an occupational therapist who was an expert in sensory integration therapy with kids. After 2 weeks he stopped hitting and has never done it again he also learned a lot about regulating his energy by doing bouts of extreme exercise when he needs to. He still remained a very hyper little boy who was hard to handle but what I discovered was that with enough exercise at intervals during the day things improved. I put him in a pre-school with a full sized playground on a huge college campus where they went for walks every day and a huge gym for rainy days.
He is 16 now and knows how to regulate his own energy by vigorous workouts in his room when he feels tense, he is an A student in a challenging large public high school and plays in an orchestra and a chamber group and I NEVER used the drugs that lots of misguided school personal thought I should but I did put him in a Waldorf school from age 10-through 8th grade because they integrate being outdoors, the arts and academics in a way more humanely matched to his nervous system.Please don't judge a small child who is "wild". Read "The Out of Sync Child"

[Cat Herder]

My beloved adorable little 2 year old started impulsively bashing other kids. He was a good sharer and an only child who loved being with other kids but inexplicably started hitting for no apparent cause out of the blue.
I researched and found out about sensory overload. He went to see an occupational therapist who was an expert in sensory integration therapy with kids. After 2 weeks he stopped hitting and has never done it again he also learned a lot about regulating his energy by doing bouts of extreme exercise when he needs to. He still remained a very hyper little boy who was hard to handle but what I discovered was that with enough exercise at intervals during the day things improved. I put him in a pre-school with a full sized playground on a huge college campus where they went for walks every day and a huge gym for rainy days.
He is 16 now and knows how to regulate his own energy by vigorous workouts in his room when he feels tense, he is an A student in a challenging large public high school and plays in an orchestra and a chamber group and I NEVER used the drugs that lots of misguided school personal thought I should but I did put him in a Waldorf school from age 10-through 8th grade because they integrate being outdoors, the arts and academics in a way more humanely matched to his nervous system.Please don't judge a small child who is "wild". Read "The Out of Sync Child"

Most of us did not have access to this type of training or local CCR&R support systems back in 2011 (when this thread was posted), terming was our only option to keep from being liable for other childrens injuries.

So much has changed since then and this is something most of us have resources for now. That said, not all of us can accommodate a child with high needs in a small group setting with one provider. As long as parents are up front during enrollment, we are typically well prepared for what lies ahead and know if it is something we can or can't deal with, now (2017).