Playpen With Higher Sides??? NAUGHTY 2 Year Old!!

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

I am having an EXTREME hard time with my 2 year old dcb...he's very mean to all the other kids in my house...smashes toys over their heads for no reason and without warning, throws hard toys at them, throws crayons across my kitchen...yesterday he threw a playphone at me after he smashed it on my other dcb's head, then later on when he refused to nap I got down at his level to talk to him and he hit me in the face! These are daily battles.

He's at the point I want to let him go because everyone in the house is high stressed because of this boy, but his mom just switched her hours so he can get picked up sooner and the grandma watches him most of the day before he comes here, so now he's only here 3 hours except for one day out of the week he's here for 6.

When he's naughty I have been using the playpen for time outs that is set up in my living room, this way he's away from the other kids where he can't hurt them...I have tried other methods such as talking to him to help him understand but usually that ends up with me getting smacked in the face.

Lately he's climbing right out of the playpen the moment I put him in. My house is wide open so I have no small area to put him while he's in his throwing/hitting mood to keep the other kids (and myself) safe. Is there a playpen on the market that has higher sides so he won't climb out? I don't know what to do with this boy (other than terminate, but was hoping to avoid that as he's only here a short time).

[BentleysBands]

I would terminate! I also would not tolerate my own child being abused at daycare.
I would let him go now before you loose other families.
good luck

[Francine]

I would terminate! I also would not tolerate my own child being abused at daycare.
I would let him go now before you loose other families.
good luck

Ditto! I would not tolerate that for a minute.

[Cat Herder]

I am having an EXTREME hard time with my 2 year old dcb...he's very mean to all the other kids in my house...smashes toys over their heads for no reason and without warning, throws hard toys at them, throws crayons across my kitchen...yesterday he threw a playphone at me after he smashed it on my other dcb's head, then later on when he refused to nap I got down at his level to talk to him and he hit me in the face! These are daily battles.

Terminate. You and the group deserve better. Terminate today.

This child may do better in a new environment so don't feel guilty. I was a difficult child (bet you would not have guessed that ::::: but once I was sent to a retired teacher it stopped.

Man I loved that old battle ax!!!!

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

I know deep down everything will be better if I do terminate...I think I'm being WAY too soft here. Backbone....oh backbone...where are you backbone????

[nannyde]

I don't know of any brand of playpens that are deep that are still in production. (whenI use JMasons that are 26 inches deep (about six to seven inches deeper than the current playpens) The Jmasons can easily accomodate a child up and during the third year. The current playpens I know of are about 19-20 inches deep which will really only work up until around one.

Regarding him hitting you and being violent. I wouldn't have had that for one day. I'm 31 years into caring for kids and I've never once had a kid raise their hand to me. If they did they would be out of my house that day and they would not return. If they were hitting my other kids or being violent they would be out that day. I have a zero tolerance policy for violence.

[Mrs.Ky]

I am having an EXTREME hard time with my 2 year old dcb...he's very mean to all the other kids in my house...smashes toys over their heads for no reason and without warning, throws hard toys at them, throws crayons across my kitchen...yesterday he threw a playphone at me after he smashed it on my other dcb's head, then later on when he refused to nap I got down at his level to talk to him and he hit me in the face! These are daily battles.

He's at the point I want to let him go because everyone in the house is high stressed because of this boy, but his mom just switched her hours so he can get picked up sooner and the grandma watches him most of the day before he comes here, so now he's only here 3 hours except for one day out of the week he's here for 6.

When he's naughty I have been using the playpen for time outs that is set up in my living room, this way he's away from the other kids where he can't hurt them...I have tried other methods such as talking to him to help him understand but usually that ends up with me getting smacked in the face.

Lately he's climbing right out of the playpen the moment I put him in. My house is wide open so I have no small area to put him while he's in his throwing/hitting mood to keep the other kids (and myself) safe. Is there a playpen on the market that has higher sides so he won't climb out? I don't know what to do with this boy (other than terminate, but was hoping to avoid that as he's only here a short time).

You need to look at WHY he is acting this way, does Mom let him get away with murder at home, is he spoiled by Mom, does Mom punish for bad behavior and reward for good? If YES I would look at other things he may have some mental problems going on children who are like this misbehave for a reason. This is NOT in anyway normal toddler behavior I think you should also sit down with Mom and talk with her and see if he is this way at home.
Im NOT saying this child has mental problems but he sounds alot like my Son at the age of 2 who is ADHD he would scratch, bite, pull hair, hit kids with toys, throw toys, have awful tamtrums where he would bang his head and bruise it, I knew it wasnt normal behavior but the doctor kept reassuring me it was I wish I would of had someone tell me different at the time so I could of gotten him help earlier so PLEASE let Mom know this is not normal toddler behavior.

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

I have a list a mile long and honestly don't know HOW I have hung on this long...seriously...yesterday he also threw a hard brush at my other dcb's head....last week he pulled a handfull of my 11 year old daughter's hair out because she was getting him down from climbing where he shouldn't of been, and swatted at my 7 year old daughter for no reason at all. He has thrown hard toys at my 7 year old daughter who is VERY kind to him, she has a heart of gold and asks for him to play with her a lot and he will play for a few min. before he's chucking a hard toy at her, FOR NO REASON AT ALL, she is the most gentle girl and out of nowhere he does these things.

Yes, he should of been terminated a while ago and I am holding on by a thread here...it really stinks, I shouldn't let money come in the way of safety, I really can't afford to terminate unless I get a replacement!

[momma2girls]

I would definately terminate! I always think of the motto- would you like your own child being treated like this in daycare? Nope!!

[countrymom]

I have a playpen high sides I bought it at a yard sale, I think its an old graco, its awesome and its large too.
I would start laying down the law with him. I don't term right away. The minute he does something bad, put him in the corner, if he gets out, YOU PUT HIM BACK. Ya it will take a bit, but you have have to be on him like glue. It sounds like he keeps getting away with things, you need to get tough. Make him your shadow too, you make him follow you everywhere. He'll get the idea.

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

I have a playpen high sides I bought it at a yard sale, I think its an old graco, its awesome and its large too.
I would start laying down the law with him. I don't term right away. The minute he does something bad, put him in the corner, if he gets out, YOU PUT HIM BACK. Ya it will take a bit, but you have have to be on him like glue. It sounds like he keeps getting away with things, you need to get tough. Make him your sha
dow too, you make him follow you everywhere. He'll get the idea.

This is EXACTLY what I have been doing...I have been putting him back when he climbs out (and lately he shakes the playpen so hard because he's upset) and also do have him follow me and be by my side or I carry him whereever I go...this is the ONLY way I can assure he's not hurting the others, but seriously, I can't keep up with this daily, he's not the only one here and I can't care for the others when he's in my arms constantly... this is exhausting when I have others to care for. I know what I need to do, I am asking around if anyone I know needs daycare.

[momofboys]

I am having an EXTREME hard time with my 2 year old dcb...he's very mean to all the other kids in my house...smashes toys over their heads for no reason and without warning, throws hard toys at them, throws crayons across my kitchen...yesterday he threw a playphone at me after he smashed it on my other dcb's head, then later on when he refused to nap I got down at his level to talk to him and he hit me in the face! These are daily battles.

He's at the point I want to let him go because everyone in the house is high stressed because of this boy, but his mom just switched her hours so he can get picked up sooner and the grandma watches him most of the day before he comes here, so now he's only here 3 hours except for one day out of the week he's here for 6.

When he's naughty I have been using the playpen for time outs that is set up in my living room, this way he's away from the other kids where he can't hurt them...I have tried other methods such as talking to him to help him understand but usually that ends up with me getting smacked in the face.

Lately he's climbing right out of the playpen the moment I put him in. My house is wide open so I have no small area to put him while he's in his throwing/hitting mood to keep the other kids (and myself) safe. Is there a playpen on the market that has higher sides so he won't climb out? I don't know what to do with this boy (other than terminate, but was hoping to avoid that as he's only here a short time).

Could you put him in a kitchen booster seat/high chair that has a strap? I put my own almost 3-year-old son in that for time outs b/c he can't undo the strap.

[Zoe]

My very first dck was exactly like that! I'm surprised I'm still in the field after having that little boy as a starter! He was 2 and on the first day of care, wouldn't sit at the table, bit my son (who was also 2), and hit my dogs!

I put up with it for 6 months because I desperately needed the money and didn't want to admit defeat. I was so stressed out all the time, my chest was starting to hurt whenever he was around. My kids HATED him coming over and I had to watch his every move. Heaven forbid I ever had to go to the bathroom, he had to sit outside the open door or else I might catch him choking my son! Of course mom would say, "Oh he's never like this at home!" All sweet and surprised by his behavior.

I finally worked up the nerve to terminate him for my sanity and more importantly, the safety of my family! I was called a Momma Bear, but you know what? We're all a lot happier and I won't put up with anyone hurting ANYONE in my home, whether it's my children or someone else's!

Be a Momma Bear and terminate! It's not worth the stress!

[My4SunshineGirlsNY]

Ah the highchair...NEVER thought of that!! Thank you...that just may work!

You nailed it Zoe, I don't want to admit defeat...as if I'm supposed to be the professional and figure out how to handle these kids...after all, I work with children, it is my business to deal with all types of behaviors.....at least this is the assumption parents have when hiring a daycare provider..........we all know it's not the case but many parents are trusting us to handle whatever situations come up and when we mention things that are happening, it MUST be our fault, we are not doing something right..

If I terminate I get an aweful pit that the mom will spread the word that I'm terrible and can't handle anything...I KNOW that is far from the truth but I'm in a small town.....humph, stress all the way around!!

[Little People]

Ah the highchair...NEVER thought of that!! Thank you...that just may work!

You nailed it Zoe, I don't want to admit defeat...as if I'm supposed to be the professional and figure out how to handle these kids...after all, I work with children, it is my business to deal with all types of behaviors.....at least this is the assumption parents have when hiring a daycare provider..........we all know it's not the case but many parents are trusting us to handle whatever situations come up and when we mention things that are happening, it MUST be our fault, we are not doing something right..

If I terminate I get an aweful pit that the mom will spread the word that I'm terrible and can't handle anything...I KNOW that is far from the truth but I'm in a small town.....humph, stress all the way around!!

You said "parents are trusting us to handle whatever situations come up" First did this parent tell you about this child hitting?? I bet not! Then the trust would of been broken from the start.
I would be more worried about the other dck's. I would not think this is fair for them to be hit, toys throwed at them, their hair pulled. And most of all you as a provider being hit. I would never keep a child that has hit me.

Ever think about setting up a video recorder and then play it back to a parent and then after you talk with the parent, show them the video, then HAND THEM A TERMINATION PAPER!

Sorry you are going through all this!! here is huggggsss