DCM Not Bringing Enough Milk, What To Do????

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  • Mrs.Ky
    Daycare.com Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 134

    #46
    We have to use SOME measures of evaluating whether a child at age X months has a higher liklihood of being overweight at XX months. What we have is height and weight and statistics for males and females to compare that baby to. We need to look back to infancy and see if anything that is being done with the massess is leading the masses to be overweight. That INCLUDES looking at feeding, sleep (very very very mportant), nutrients, exercise, play, etc.

    I'm fat now :: and GUESS WHAT I wasnt fat as a baby I ate the wrong things and whenever I wanted FINALLY took control of my life 4 months ago and Im already down 60 pounds Im NOT Obese because my Mom feed me to much, started me early on food, etc. Im Obese because I choose to be. I guess the new excuse soon will be Im fat now because I was a fat baby.

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    • jen
      Advanced Daycare.com Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1832

      #47
      Mrs. K,

      I challenge you to watch this video and tell me again about facing forward.

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      • Mrs.Ky
        Daycare.com Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 134

        #48
        Mom ALWAYS knows best for her baby not some doctor, nurse, or someone from the AAP.

        I think that's a bunch of bunk. I don't believe in the "I know my baby best and I know what's best for my baby". It's a "feel good" sentiment but there's little truth in it.

        You would say that you use to be an RN . SOME Moms know best but choose not to do best, some Moms know best and do there best, other moms think they know best and try there best. EVERYONE parents differently there is NO wrong or right way to parent. Some parents spank some dont, some start solids at 4 months some later, some do rear facing till 1 some 2 some almost 1, etc etc etc etc. I KNOW what I do is best for my kids I dont need someoe else saying so like the AAP some people agree and some dont I COULD careless. I also do whats best for my daycare kids and what the parents think is best for there child.

        Thats right Im a MOM who:
        Sat 2 of my kids forward facing before 1
        I put cereal in all my kids bottles
        I feed solids at 4 months old
        I spank if needed
        I medicate my ADHD child

        These are things people have problems with but I dont care Im doing whats BEST for MY kids and I love them no matter what. Not all of us agree with what other parents do and thats ok I dont agree with what some of my parents do with there kids but thats ok I dont have too they are NOT mine.

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        • Mrs.Ky
          Daycare.com Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 134

          #49
          Originally posted by jen
          Mrs. K,

          I challenge you to watch this video and tell me again about facing forward.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8gU9...eature=related

          Thanks, Anyone can DIE in a car accident weather forward facing or rear facing. Like I said what I DID with my OWN kids is what is BEST for my kids and EVERYONE parents differently there is no wrong or right way. I have a boy rear facing now in daycare who is 14 months old ad he will stay that way til he is 2 because thats what his Mom says is best for HER child and Im ok with it and I will do what she thinks is best for her child.

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          • jen
            Advanced Daycare.com Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1832

            #50
            Originally posted by Mrs.Ky
            Thanks, Anyone can DIE in a car accident weather forward facing or rear facing. Like I said what I DID with my OWN kids is what is BEST for my kids and EVERYONE parents differently there is no wrong or right way. I have a boy rear facing now in daycare who is 14 months old ad he will stay that way til he is 2 because thats what his Mom says is best for HER child and Im ok with it and I will do what she thinks is best for her child.
            You didn't actually watch the video did you?

            It is foolish to believe that every Mom knows whats best for her child. When I was a kid a "car seat" was my Mom's arm flung across my chest. That is what she believed was best, because that is all of the information that she had at the time.

            EDUCATE yourself and then determine what is best, what is safest.

            Your kids are fine because you haven't been in a bad crash...so think for one second...if you get in a crash and your child could have survived but didn't, because you were so arrogant as to believe that you knew better than everyone else as to what constitutes the BEST when it comes to safety...how exactly would you sleep at night.

            As for Mom's *always* know best. Each and every day we all see people do ridiculous crap with thier kids. People who don't even use a seat belt much less a car seat, people who think that a sweatshirt is "good enough" when its clearly well below freezing. Seriously. Your comments are just ignorant.

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            • cillybean83
              Daycare.com Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 544

              #51
              i'm not a mod but this is kind of heated...agree to disagree?

              The OP just wanted to know about milk...

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              • Mrs.Ky
                Daycare.com Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 134

                #52
                Originally posted by jen
                You didn't actually watch the video did you?

                It is foolish to believe that every Mom knows whats best for her child. When I was a kid a "car seat" was my Mom's arm flung across my chest. That is what she believed was best, because that is all of the information that she had at the time.

                EDUCATE yourself and then determine what is best, what is safest.

                Your kids are fine because you haven't been in a bad crash...so think for one second...if you get in a crash and your child could have survived but didn't, because you were so arrogant as to believe that you knew better than everyone else as to what constitutes the BEST when it comes to safety...how exactly would you sleep at night.

                As for Mom's *always* know best. Each and every day we all see people do ridiculous crap with thier kids. People who don't even use a seat belt much less a car seat, people who think that a sweatshirt is "good enough" when its clearly well below freezing. Seriously. Your comments are just ignorant.
                I guess it makes you feel better to insult somone huh I guess you feel better about yourself now. Never NOT once have I insulted you in anyway nor would I because I dont know you just as you dont know me. Ya you are right we see kids without coats, etc. the parents may think they are doing best for there child who are we to judge them? MOMS always think they know better the someone else, and they are some how superior to other Moms but they arent.

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                • JenNJ
                  Advanced Daycare.com Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1212

                  #53
                  I'm out of this one. I refuse to try to get someone to look at science and studies that prove health and saftey issues when they have their uneducated mind made up. I feel for the kids in your care and hope that you at least follow safety guidelines during daycare hours.

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                  • nannyde
                    All powerful, all knowing daycare whisperer
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 7320

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Mrs.Ky
                    You would say that you use to be an RN .
                    I AM a RN. Not used to be. I AM.

                    I've been doing this for a long time and I spend a lot of my time researching. I'm very interested in both nutrition and positional safety. I've done THOUSANDS of hours of research for many many years.

                    http://www.amazon.com/Daycare-Whispe...=doing+daycare

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                    • jen
                      Advanced Daycare.com Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1832

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Mrs.Ky
                      I guess it makes you feel better to insult somone huh I guess you feel better about yourself now. Never NOT once have I insulted you in anyway nor would I because I dont know you just as you dont know me. Ya you are right we see kids without coats, etc. the parents may think they are doing best for there child who are we to judge them? MOMS always think they know better the someone else, and they are some how superior to other Moms but they arent.
                      I really don't feel that I have insulted you. The closest I came to was to say that your comments were ignorant or...

                      "lacking knowledge: lacking knowledge or education in general or in a specific subject
                      unaware: unaware of something
                      resulting from lack of knowledge: caused by a lack of knowledge, understanding, or experience"

                      I stand by that statement. The evidence that children are safer, all children, including yours are safer, when seated rear facing and in appropriate car seats. You are clearly unaware of that FACT.

                      You indicated that your three year old sits in a booster seat; it is ILLEGAL to have your child in a booster seat in TN. You are clearly unaware of the LAW.

                      Children under age 4 must ride in a car seat. Tennessee requires that all car seats be federally approved and used according to manufacturer's instructions.

                      Children ages 4 through 8 and less than 4'9" in height must use a booster seat. Children through age 12 who are greater than 4'9" are required to use a vehicle seatbelt, and the rear seat is recommended for these children. Tennessee requires that all children under age 16 who are not in a car seat or booster use a vehicle seat belt.

                      You said you had a blunt personality and that some people just couldn't take it. I wasn't being insulting, I was just being straightforward. I apologize, if I hurt your feelings; it wasn't my intent. However, you did say you were intentionally adding fuel to the fire, so I guess you were expecting this kind of response. It seems silly to add fuel to the fire if you don't want to hear the response.

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                      • DCMomOf3
                        Advanced Daycare.com Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1246

                        #56
                        I think this thread has too gone off topic.

                        If you want to discuss things not realated to the OP, I ask you take it to Private message, or a new thread.

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                        • Mrs.Ky
                          Daycare.com Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 134

                          #57
                          Originally posted by jen
                          I really don't feel that I have insulted you. The closest I came to was to say that your comments were ignorant or...

                          "lacking knowledge: lacking knowledge or education in general or in a specific subject
                          unaware: unaware of something
                          resulting from lack of knowledge: caused by a lack of knowledge, understanding, or experience"

                          I stand by that statement. The evidence that children are safer, all children, including yours are safer, when seated rear facing and in appropriate car seats. You are clearly unaware of that FACT.

                          You indicated that your three year old sits in a booster seat; it is ILLEGAL to have your child in a booster seat in TN. You are clearly unaware of the LAW.

                          Children under age 4 must ride in a car seat. Tennessee requires that all car seats be federally approved and used according to manufacturer's instructions.

                          Children ages 4 through 8 and less than 4'9" in height must use a booster seat. Children through age 12 who are greater than 4'9" are required to use a vehicle seatbelt, and the rear seat is recommended for these children. Tennessee requires that all children under age 16 who are not in a car seat or booster use a vehicle seat belt.

                          You said you had a blunt personality and that some people just couldn't take it. I wasn't being insulting, I was just being straightforward. I apologize, if I hurt your feelings; it wasn't my intent. However, you did say you were intentionally adding fuel to the fire, so I guess you were expecting this kind of response. It seems silly to add fuel to the fire if you don't want to hear the response.
                          I dont live in TN. YES my 3 year old sits in a HIGH BACK BOOSTER seat made for ages 3 and up and for children 30 pounds and up which she FITS into prefectly safe and sound. I was just JOKING around about adding fuel to the fire. No you didnt hurt my feelings one bit but thanks for apologizing.

                          The child must be within the weight range for the child restraint/booster seat and it must meet Federal standards in effect at time of manufacture


                          This is from our state website and my little girl clearly fits into the guidelines of her booster. I DO know the carseat guidlines in my state and MD state because I use to live there. So Im not uneducated in that department.

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                          • Mrs.Ky
                            Daycare.com Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 134

                            #58
                            Originally posted by DCMomOf3
                            I think this thread has too gone off topic.

                            If you want to discuss things not realated to the OP, I ask you take it to Private message, or a new thread.
                            Sorry read this after I posted response

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                            • grandmom
                              Daycare.com Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 766

                              #59
                              As for the BF baby. My BF 4-month old's mom brings about 20 oz EVERY day. And EVERY day, the 4-month drinks 20 oz.

                              I'm sorry you have to deal with this.

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                              • Crystal
                                Advanced Daycare.com Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 4002

                                #60
                                After reading this thread, I came upon this article about a new study by the AAP saying solids should not be introduced before four months as children who recieve solids before four months have a higher risk of obesity. Perhaps it would be a good idea to ask Mom if she is interested in starting solids, as it may help with her feeling guilty about not producing enough milk and the child will not go hungry. If MOm's not interested and cannot provide additional milk, I recommend what pp's have said and make Mom come pick her child up when you run out of milk:



                                Here is the study info from AAP:

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