Fingerprinting

[Annalee]

I just found updated regs for TN proposed for 2018... it includes a 5 panel drug test, and infants will change from up to 15 months to 0-12 months... I don't worry about the drug panel because Indiana regs required 10 panel & I did that in 2004-05 . I've been fingerprinted in many states - it's those that don't want to do printing I worry about. It's like getting a passport Nowen days... you get vetted thoroughly

Along with those new rules are anyone left in charge of the daycare children must have a CDA (which would mean I could NEVER leave my facility, not sure what will happen to those in place now without CDA, possibly a time-frame to get it)....tripling the training hours and what they should be on, too many rules to even mention here that will have great impact....which will in turn change our QRIS report card which is already set up for no success. Hoping our voices have been heard and changes will be attainable. If not I look for a huge exodus of providers from center and FCC. :confused:

[Annalee]

Yup. And now with the new federal funding they have to do unannounced full inspections once a year. Those visits are tough enough when they are planned. But 2+ hours unannounced?! Who's watching the kids?! Did I mention that I am not renewing...

We get 4-6 unannounced inspections each year. I get four because I am the highest stars. One visit each year is announced to check our paperwork annually. I would LOVE only one unannounced each year. This is just for licensing. QRIS does their annual assessment each year before we can obtain our license for the year giving us a report card....

[Play Care]

We get 4-6 unannounced inspections each year. I get four because I am the highest stars. One visit each year is announced to check our paperwork annually. I would LOVE only one unannounced each year. This is just for licensing. QRIS does their annual assessment each year before we can obtain our license for the year giving us a report card....

Oh, we already get unannounced inspections each quarter (so 4 a year). But that announced one you get? That's the one that will no longer be announced here. So we will still get the unannounced pop ins, and the full inspection will also be unannounced... the one where they are constantly asking for this or that paperwork and files and going over the house from top to bottom. Sigh.

[Mom2Two]

They are trying it here.
They want to build a new multimillion $ facility her to house birth to K for universal Pre-K. It's been discussed to the point of there is nothing left to discuss....the community has voted not but they just keep trying saying how badly we need this since there is a huge shortage of care. The papers and media in my community say 530 kids that have no where to go..... yet most the providers I know are actively advertising to fill spaces.

If the federal govt decides to throw money at the states for doing it, I'm guessing that most states will bite.

All it would take is the next democratic president/congress combo to start something like that and pose as social-program heroes.

But it would be an awful thing. I already feel against how much children are treated as objects of the economy by political policy, rather than as whole individuals. I keep wondering if politicians think that if we drum those academics into them earlier, maybe our economy will edge forward and pay everyone's social security and the politicians will avoid the burn of spending too much.

I'm starting to wonder what I/we can do to help prevent this from happening. Ideas?

[LysesKids]

Along with those new rules are anyone left in charge of the daycare children must have a CDA (which would mean I could NEVER leave my facility, not sure what will happen to those in place now without CDA, possibly a time-frame to get it)....tripling the training hours and what they should be on, too many rules to even mention here that will have great impact....which will in turn change our QRIS report card which is already set up for no success. Hoping our voices have been heard and changes will be attainable. If not I look for a huge exodus of providers from center and FCC. :confused:

And you want to know why the only licensed homes here in Blount Co just dropped their licenses & went licensed exempt... hate to say it, but I love my four at anytime if it means not dealing with the extra garbage. I have 2 degrees but one isn't a CDA which ****s

[Blackcat31]

If the federal govt decides to throw money at the states for doing it, I'm guessing that most states will bite.

All it would take is the next democratic president/congress combo to start something like that and pose as social-program heroes.

But it would be an awful thing. I already feel against how much children are treated as objects of the economy by political policy, rather than as whole individuals. I keep wondering if politicians think that if we drum those academics into them earlier, maybe our economy will edge forward and pay everyone's social security and the politicians will avoid the burn of spending too much.

I'm starting to wonder what I/we can do to help prevent this from happening. Ideas?

Parents just hear FREE and stop listening.

We see enough "special" requests in family child care to know and understand that every parent wants something different for their child and that there is nothing in this world that is free that comes without a cost.

So while "free" might not effect their wallets, it will certainly effect their rights to choose what they feel is best for their child. But sadly, most people can't see past FREE to realize what's happening before it happens.

[Mom2Two]

I know what you mean about FREE. I could have died recently when my sister (nurse in Australia) who was a little ticked with me, decided to post about how some poor people in the U. S. can't afford cancer treatment, whereas it's FREE in Australia.

I restrained myself from pointing out that health care does actually cost money there too. And that she might not be as clued-in to health care here as she thinks.

[Annalee]

Oh, we already get unannounced inspections each quarter (so 4 a year). But that announced one you get? That's the one that will no longer be announced here. So we will still get the unannounced pop ins, and the full inspection will also be unannounced... the one where they are constantly asking for this or that paperwork and files and going over the house from top to bottom. Sigh.

It is going to get worse before it gets better I am afraid.

[Annalee]

If the federal govt decides to throw money at the states for doing it, I'm guessing that most states will bite.

All it would take is the next democratic president/congress combo to start something like that and pose as social-program heroes.

But it would be an awful thing. I already feel against how much children are treated as objects of the economy by political policy, rather than as whole individuals. I keep wondering if politicians think that if we drum those academics into them earlier, maybe our economy will edge forward and pay everyone's social security and the politicians will avoid the burn of spending too much.

I'm starting to wonder what I/we can do to help prevent this from happening. Ideas?

I don't know if there is even any "logic" when it comes to rationalizing this situation when it comes to lawmakers/legislators. I think it has become bigger than anyone wants to tackle from wayyyyyy up top Federally and is bigger than the powers that be in the "states" can deal with. It is from lobbyist on a federal level...in the name of "education for our children". "Free" is the key word to the public. "Education" always sounds good to those who do not "teach or work in early childhood"....Teachers and early childhood educators have the most "insight" in these issues and we speak LOUDLY but NO ONE LISTENS! :confused:

[Play Care]

It is going to get worse before it gets better I am afraid.

Yup. Which is a big part of the reason I am not renewing my license when it's up next year. I'm not even sure I will work out the last half of the license.

[Cat Herder]

I'm starting to wonder what I/we can do to help prevent this from happening. Ideas?

The new push here seems to be in funding these home visitor programs, to keep the B - 3 subsidy kids at home with a parent while the state directly gives them the resources and training they would be otherwise be *giving us.

Maybe they did the math and it came out cheaper when you add all the programs each family is eligible for. :confused: I have just started to research it.

Are you seeing this yet?

[Annalee]

The new push here seems to be in funding these home visitor programs, to keep the B - 3 subsidy kids at home with a parent while the state directly gives them the resources and training they would be otherwise be *giving us.

Maybe they did the math and it came out cheaper when you add all the programs each family is eligible for. :confused: I have just started to research it.

Are you seeing this yet?

I haven't seen this here yet but I like the idea of the subsidy parents that do not work keeping their own kids. Head starts here are full of parents that do not work but get free daycare. I do not participate in the subsidy program here because the program doesn't support my efforts to support my own family. They feel I should not charge subsidy clients for days the state does not pay me for...very unfair in my opinion. But isn't it funny that parents need training to do something "nature" should teach them. :confused:

[Cat Herder]

I haven't seen this here yet but I like the idea of the subsidy parents that do not work keeping their own kids. Head starts here are full of parents that do not work but get free daycare. I do not participate in the subsidy program here because the program doesn't support my efforts to support my own family. They feel I should not charge subsidy clients for days the state does not pay me for...very unfair in my opinion. But isn't it funny that parents need training to do something "nature" should teach them. :confused:

I stopped taking subsidy due to poor parent behaviors. It created more problems than it solved. A semblance of the bird feeder parable.

http://www.birthtothree.org/programs/

This program used to be about kids not meeting milestones but has now acknowledged that income and parent involvement are also a factors in kids development (among many other things).

[Blackcat31]

I stopped taking subsidy due to poor parent behaviors. It created more problems than it solved. A semblance of the bird feeder parable.

http://www.birthtothree.org/programs/

This program used to be about kids not meeting milestones but has now acknowledged that income and parent involvement are also a factors in kids development (among many other things).

They've revamped our subsidy program.
Now it's easier for parents.

Instead of having to re-certify and prove income every 6 months, they are now only required to do so every 12 months.

It used to be that if you had another child and were out on maternity leave, the assistance program would not pay for your older children to be in care but now the assistance program will cover costs of older siblings in care while parent is home. This includes medical situations and periods of lay-offs. (In other words, the parent is never "forced" to care for their child while the parent is home)

Payments from the assistance program will now continue for up to 3 months after eligibility stops. Covering this gap period helps a family maintain their financial growth.

Providers are now required to take additional training courses otherwise not required if no families in care are using assistance.

So yes, there are definitely changes in our state assistance program, the changes are geared towards making sure the parent is minimally involved in the care of THEIR child.

[Country Kids]

We have to pay for the background check and the fingerprinting-wasn't cheap from what I remember.

We have to go to the UPS store to have it done-only place in our town that does it.

Everyone in our household or regular visitors over the age of 18.