Fingerprinting

[Baby Beluga]

I'm really surprised to learn fingerprinting wasn't a requirement in some states. I started working in a center in 2007 and and that time fingerprinting was a requirement for centers.

When I opened my own in home I renewed my prints with a level 1 fingerprint clearance card which is more restrictive and harder to get than a standard fingerprint clearance card (at least in AZ) Fwiw, I am legally license except.

I believe it was around $50 when it was done in 2014. I am unsure of the cost now. Fingerprints do need to be renewed, I think every 6 years? Unsure of that without looking.

One thing that I think is important for clients to understand is, just because you have the card stating you are fingerprinted does not mean you card is in good standing. It is possible for your card to be revoked and still have the card in your possession. I always tell parents to enter the card number into the AZdps website to ensure the card is in good standing.

[Alwaysgreener]

$60 per person, provider only.

[hwichlaz]

We are a small home daycare in Texas. They started requiring it in 2016, and I believe we will have to do it every 2 years. I think it costs $48 each, or in that neighborhood. The biggest problem is that there aren't enough locations doing it. You can't just run down to the sheriff's office. There was just one place, and it was 40 miles away. I'm trying to remember if we did it in Saturday or had to take off to do it during the week. I was very creeped out about the whole thing. If I had other options for working, I would have shut down. I worked for the sheriff's office for almost 2 decades and never had to be fingerprinted. This just felt intrusive.

That's not normal anywhere else, . My ex is LE and even his girlfriend (me) had to be fingerprinted when he was in backgrounds to get hired...I think 21 years ago now.

[Unregistered]

We have to be fingerprinted in Alabama but now they are stating that ALL daycares regardless of license or religion must be fingerprinted

[LysesKids]

Wv free but all household members over 18 and employees.

Heck, they came to my home to do mine in 2000... WV has required it for a long time

[Fiddlesticks]

I won’t have my minor child fingerprinted nor sit for a mug shot. My husband and I are adults who make our own choices, I was fingerprinted for my teaching license, but there was no mug shot taken so what’s up with that? But our minor child has no choice—can’t move out, can’t say “no, Mom, quit your job” and I will quit first before we take away that choice. I come up for relicensing before they are rolling this out here, so I might have another year, but I will be done if they force this on us, I have been a provider for 25 years. I recently sat in a room full, 100+ providers, all with years of experience similar to mine, or longer, who have pledged the same, we will close first. If our state thinks they have a daycare shortage NOW, if they think daycare is expensive here NOW, just wait.

[Blackcat31]

I won’t have my minor child fingerprinted nor sit for a mug shot. My husband and I are adults who make our own choices, I was fingerprinted for my teaching license, but there was no mug shot taken so what’s up with that? But our minor child has no choice—can’t move out, can’t say “no, Mom, quit your job” and I will quit first before we take away that choice. I come up for relicensing before they are rolling this out here, so I might have another year, but I will be done if they force this on us, I have been a provider for 25 years. I recently sat in a room full, 100+ providers, all with years of experience similar to mine, or longer, who have pledged the same, we will close first. If our state thinks they have a daycare shortage NOW, if they think daycare is expensive here NOW, just wait.

They want you and all the others to quit.

If you/everyone quits; they still win.

They’ll get exactly what they were shooting for in the first place.

[LysesKids]

I won’t have my minor child fingerprinted nor sit for a mug shot. My husband and I are adults who make our own choices, I was fingerprinted for my teaching license, but there was no mug shot taken so what’s up with that? But our minor child has no choice—can’t move out, can’t say “no, Mom, quit your job” and I will quit first before we take away that choice. I come up for relicensing before they are rolling this out here, so I might have another year, but I will be done if they force this on us, I have been a provider for 25 years. I recently sat in a room full, 100+ providers, all with years of experience similar to mine, or longer, who have pledged the same, we will close first. If our state thinks they have a daycare shortage NOW, if they think daycare is expensive here NOW, just wait.

You do understand why some states require minor children to get printed right?... they may have higher instances of child crime. They are protecting the children in your care; I don't like the idea of it either, but better safe than sorry. My own children were harmed by their peers on a bus of all places (cameras weren't working)- do you expect a parent to allow that type of child to be around ones you get paid to protect?

[LysesKids]

They want you and all the others to quit.

If you/everyone quits; they still win.

They’ll get exactly what they were shooting for in the first place.

Exactly!!!

[Fiddlesticks]

They want you and all the others to quit.

If you/everyone quits; they still win.

They’ll get exactly what they were shooting for in the first place.

Yes, I believe they have been working towards this for a long time. I also believe a simultaneous shuttering of 30% of available childcare spaces would take years to overcome.

As far as the fingerprinting keeping children safe, how so? They already do a background study, if my child were a known danger they’d have found it on that study as we have lived in this house all of my child’s life. Child abusers/molestors are rarely discovered until they have multiple victims. This is data collection disguised as a safety measure.

[KSDC]

Kansas

We aren't required right now, but it is coming in 2018.
Here is the info I have:

Who is required to have a comprehensive fingerprint-based background check?
 Each applicant, applicant with a temporary permit and licensee;
 each provider working in the home at least 16 years of age;
 each resident of home at least 18 years of age;
 each volunteer with unsupervised access to children; and
 any other individual at least 18 years of age present in the home whose activities involve
unsupervised access to children.

They are estimating the cost to be be between $48 -$60 per individual.

[Miss A]

In Iowa.

Everyone age 14 and above in the home must be fingerprinted at our county sheriffs office, cost is $5.00 per person.

If you are a legally license exempt home (operating with 5 or less children) this is not required. If you choose to be legally license exempt, but wish to accept CCA then you must be FP'ed, and follow other requirements for a registered child development home.

I was originally legally license exempt and accepted CCA, but when I had no families that needed CCA I dropped it. I am now legally license exempt, but keep files and have an emergency management plan like I maintain a license.

[Annalee]

They want you and all the others to quit.

If you/everyone quits; they still win.

They’ll get exactly what they were shooting for in the first place.

And the changes are coming quickly with the "forcing to quit" being the primary goal!

[MarinaVanessa]

And the changes are coming quickly with the "forcing to quit" being the primary goal!

I'm not understanding what the states forcing to quit gain from doing so. Can someone enlighten me?

We have background checks but not "mug shots" and no one under 18 needs to get one here in my state so this is all new to me.

[Annalee]

I'm not understanding what the states forcing to quit gain from doing so. Can someone enlighten me?

We have background checks but not "mug shots" and no one under 18 needs to get one here in my state so this is all new to me.

The fingerprinting alone is not why providers are quitting here but the combination of unrealistic rules/regualtions along with constant NEW expectations where providers are IMO set up to fail instead of succeed due to the overwhelming CRAZY guidelines. My state are awaiting new guidelines right now regarding education stipulations to be implemented 2018. These mandates are Federal so they have to be implemented...it is up to each state how they do this.....slowly or quickly. But it is MONEY and all states want the MONEY. I have rolled with change for 25 years, but I foresee another drop off in providers with these new rules. just my opinions but I feel strongly this is the path we are headed in my state!